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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1269565]Yesss!!! I want to go out agreeing with each other. Flat tax is the way to go! I would add to that, no tax on the 1st 40K for individual filers and the 1st 80k for joint filers. And that's it. No waivers, write-offs, etc. On the 1st 40 or 80K, no one pays any federal taxes.

IMO a flat tax with a raised floor, protects Americans that need to be protected the most and eliminates people that can pay their taxes from BS writeoffs.[/quote]

Holy Shit ! This is scary.:grouphug:

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1269517]The single biggest issue that every citizen (i believe) would agree on in a heartbeat is term limits for senators. It should be no more than 18 years in the Senate. Biggest ongoing mistake by the founding fathers - although it really took effect once senators became publicly elected.[/quote]

I would agree that term limits would be a great idea. Have no problem for 3 terms for a senator that is more than reasonable. I'd like it for the house too. Maybe 5 terms. Now all we need is a politician able to get a legislation through with it.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1269579]I would agree that term limits would be a great idea. Have no problem for 3 terms for a senator that is more than reasonable. I'd like it for the house too. Maybe 5 terms. Now all we need is a politician able to get a legislation through with it.[/quote]

It could be done through a constitutional convention by the states. Thinking about it, I really like this concept:

House - 2 year terms, 5 max = 10 years in house
Senate - 5 year terms, 2 max = 10 years in senate
President - 4 year terms, 2 max = 8 years

Max Total Federal service all elected levels 20 years - Vice President kind of throughs a wrench in this if their terms are counted

SCOTUS - 15 year term with a 10 year extension granted by peer review (I would make it consist of the 1 judge from each state supreme court, and the fellow SCOTUS judges)

[url]https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution[/url]

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I'm glad we can all agree on term limits.

I would settle for 25 year limits, as 25-30 years is basically a career in gov't positions anyways.

It's fucked up the President has a 2 term limit, but Congress/SCOTUS have nothing. We need to make this happen.

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/ki6ghv/socialism_is_killing_cheeseburger_culture/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3"]Socialism is coming for your cheeseburgers now! [/URL]

Fear mongering is alive and well.

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[quote=mooby;1269755]LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/ki6ghv/socialism_is_killing_cheeseburger_culture/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3"]Socialism is coming for your cheeseburgers now! [/URL]

Fear mongering is alive and well.[/quote]

You can have my double half pound barbeque cheeseburger when you pry it from my diabetic obese ulcered fingers you g'd**n commie vegan socialist punk!

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[quote=mooby;1269691]I'm glad we can all agree on term limits.

I would settle for 25 year limits, as 25-30 years is basically a career in gov't positions anyways.

It's fucked up the President has a 2 term limit, but Congress/SCOTUS have nothing. We need to make this happen.[/quote]

25 years in the SC, Senate , Congress or President is way , way tooooooooooooooooo long!

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[quote=credskinsrule;1269758]you can have my double half pound barbeque cheeseburger when you pry it from my diabetic obese ulcered fingers you g'd**n commie vegan socialist punk![/quote]

[b][b]amen![/b][/b]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1269592]It could be done through a constitutional convention by the states. Thinking about it, I really like this concept:

House - 2 year terms, 5 max = 10 years in house
Senate - 5 year terms, 2 max = 10 years in senate
President - 4 year terms, 2 max = 8 years

Max Total Federal service all elected levels 20 years - Vice President kind of throughs a wrench in this if their terms are counted

SCOTUS - 15 year term with a 10 year extension granted by peer review (I would make it consist of the 1 judge from each state supreme court, and the fellow SCOTUS judges)

[url]https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution[/url][/quote]

That would be awesome but I am not sure a constitutional convention is any more plausible. I can dream though.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1269758]You can have my double half pound barbeque cheeseburger when you pry it from my diabetic obese ulcered fingers you g'd**n commie vegan socialist punk![/quote]

god damn right brother.

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[url]https://twitter.com/SocialistMMA/status/1341559201307521024[/url]

[quote=SocialistMMA]
If Trump aggressively fought for $2k checks, railed against foreign aid, and fought against special interest bailouts during the election instead of pretending Joe Biden was some sort of secret far left ANTIFA grandpa he would have won by a landslide
[/quote]

lol, where's the lie?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1269825]That would be awesome but I am not sure a constitutional convention is any more plausible. I can dream though.[/quote]
28 states have called for one. If there was the type of social media outcry for term limits, and other needed amendments, that we have seen for many other causes it would have happened by now.

[url]https://www.coloradofiscal.org/2019/02/a-constitutional-convention-is-closer-than-you-think/#:~:text=Today%2C%2028%20states%20%E2%80%93%20including%20Colorado,constitutional%20convention%20could%20be%20convened[/url].

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So once a state calls for one is there an expiration?

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[url]https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1349110931620556800[/url]

Well your quippy one-liners don't hurt much... (20 seconds later) I AM A GOD FEARING, GOD LOVING AMERICAN!

LOL

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Eric Swalwell on the impeachment management team. Lolz. Hmm, wonder if he has a conflict of interest? Both sides hold us all in contempt. And they're not even trying anymore.

All countries eventually fall. We're on fast forward right now (not because of this, this is just a smidgen of parmesan cheese on top of the humongous pasta dish).

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1273935]Eric Swalwell on the impeachment management team. Lolz. Hmm, wonder if he has a conflict of interest? Both sides hold us all in contempt. And they're not even trying anymore.

All countries eventually fall. We're on fast forward right now (not because of this, this is just a smidgen of parmesan cheese on top of the humongous pasta dish).[/quote]

Something trump will be proud of , no doubt .

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5CFhCepAAQ&fbclid=IwAR3FDwR7iSzHloxmHSr3k_i5gLrqpognGw113DspJnUvCp0xLUzzL-WcNO4[/url]

This is exactly how I feel. What did this country not give you?!

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[URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/01/13/trump-impeachment-pelosi-gift-to-captive-republicans-column/6627377002/"]Nancy Pelosi offers Republicans an impeachment gift, again: Will they take it this time?[/URL]

It's true, this is the chance for Republicans to separate themselves from Trump and MAGA, a fresh start

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[quote=MTK;1273980][URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/01/13/trump-impeachment-pelosi-gift-to-captive-republicans-column/6627377002/"]Nancy Pelosi offers Republicans an impeachment gift, again: Will they take it this time?[/URL]

It's true, this is the chance for Republicans to separate themselves from Trump and MAGA, a fresh start[/quote]

Trump is always going to have his diehards, it is what it is. But the rest of them have the opportunity to make a stand here for the future of the Republican party. Otherwise they might as well rename it the Trump party.

I believe there are conservatives out there scared to vote for impeachment because they fear themselves or their families being harmed by the radicals who are actively looking for liberals to hurt. It's sad that it's come to this but I believe if you vote against impeachment not because you believe POTUS needs to be impeached, but because you fear violence directed at you, then you've basically allowed terrorism to win.

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[url]https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1349456937080008704[/url]

Marjorie Taylor Greene, ladies and gents. Can't decide what's worse, being a Q supporter or being this openly ignorant.

I bring this up because apparently [URL="https://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/1349512652565917696"]she promised Newsmax[/URL] to introduce articles of impeachment against Joe Biden on Jan. 21st.

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[quote=mooby;1274053][url]https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1349456937080008704[/url]

Marjorie Taylor Greene, ladies and gents. Can't decide what's worse, being a Q supporter or being this openly ignorant.

I bring this up because apparently [URL="https://twitter.com/jackshafer/status/1349512652565917696"]she promised Newsmax[/URL] to introduce articles of impeachment against Joe Biden on Jan. 21st.[/quote]

You know I wish I had this much time to post incoherent thoughts and incompetent positions by Democrats in Congress, there’s a lot.

Or statements by Democrats backing and supporting political violence, statements calling on Biden not to concede if trump wins, anti Semitic statements and positions in the past year.

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[quote=Chico23231;1274071]You know I wish I had this much time to post incoherent thoughts and incompetent positions by Democrats in Congress, there’s a lot.

Or statements by Democrats backing and supporting political violence, statements calling on Biden not to concede if trump wins, anti Semitic statements and positions in the past year.[/quote]

You did and still do.

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chico you just need to stop and realize trump is an ass and his own people are turning on him!


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/trump-appointed-us-attorney-georgia-161550950.html[/url]


The new Trump-appointed US Attorney in Georgia says he was surprised to find there wasn't any election fraud

Bobby Christine, the new US Attorney overseeing federal prosecutions in Atlanta, said in a call with staffers that he was pleasantly surprised to find there were no legitimate election fraud cases, according to a recording obtained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

President Donald Trump appointed Christine after reportedly pressured his predecessor to resign over the lack of election fraud cases.

Christine said he already dismissed the two highest-profile cases his department was looking at, which he said had no merit.

Trump has sought to overturn the results of the election he lost, focusing his efforts on Georgia.

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Ive had enough of people like this. 17 years old, go to a BLM protest in another State with a AR, look for trouble, find trouble, kill 2 people ....

then become a white nationalist folk hero ... this segment of the US, celebrating killings of others, flashing white power signs then turns around and wonders why everyone calls them racist ... I dont get it.

I dont know if he will see jail time .. but I really really hope so.

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[quote=MTK;1273980][URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/01/13/trump-impeachment-pelosi-gift-to-captive-republicans-column/6627377002/"]Nancy Pelosi offers Republicans an impeachment gift, again: Will they take it this time?[/URL]

It's true, this is the chance for Republicans to separate themselves from Trump and MAGA, a fresh start[/quote]

Great counter argument by one of the smartest minds our country has ever produced:

[url]https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/01/14/the-real-reason-most-republicans-opposed-impeachment-491399[/url]

POLITICO Playbook: The real reason most Republicans opposed impeachment
By BEN SHAPIRO

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[quote=Chico23231;1274116]Great counter argument by one of the smartest minds our country has ever produced:

[url]https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/01/14/the-real-reason-most-republicans-opposed-impeachment-491399[/url]

POLITICO Playbook: The real reason most Republicans opposed impeachment
By BEN SHAPIRO[/quote]

Ben Shapiro? LOL

Yeah that's a no for me dawg

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[quote=MTK;1274122]Ben Shapiro? LOL

Yeah that's a no for me dawg[/quote]

Step out the bubble...I read shit by Democrats hack, lying, so-called jurnos every damn day!

Come on dawg!

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[quote=Chico23231;1274116]Great counter argument by one of the smartest minds our country has ever produced:

[url]https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/01/14/the-real-reason-most-republicans-opposed-impeachment-491399[/url]

POLITICO Playbook: The real reason most Republicans opposed impeachment
By BEN SHAPIRO[/quote]

So republicans want trump to be left alone and they will play happy , is that it?chico you're crazier than trump is!

You Impeach him , to keep him out of politics forever !This is a chance for republicans to wash their hands of that scumbag! You'll see more agree to Impeachment after Biden is sworn in.

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[quote=Chico23231;1274128]Step out the bubble...I read shit by Democrats hack, lying, so-called jurnos every damn day!

Come on dawg![/quote]

The guy that thinks everyone owns zip ties?

Buffoon.

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Ive had enough of people like this. 17 years old, go to a BLM protest in another State with a AR, look for trouble, find trouble, kill 2 people ....

then become a white nationalist folk hero ... this segment of the US, celebrating killings of others, flashing white power signs then turns around and wonders why everyone calls them racist ... I dont get it.

I dont know if he will see jail time .. but I really really hope so.[/quote]

I agree!

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[quote=MTK;1274131]The guy that thinks everyone owns zip ties?

Buffoon.[/quote]

I do...oh no! Does that make me the equivalent of Buffalo headdress guy?

Ohhhhh nooooo

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Shapiro has a laundry list of dumb things he's said.

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[quote=MTK;1274141]Shapiro has a laundry list of dumb things he's said.[/quote]

Yup we all do..and every in the public eye does as well. difference is he owns it. People who attempt to discredit harp on it...it’s well known. On Twitter today people are crying like bitches he was given a platform on politico...most bringing up old quotes, so dwell on that .00000000000000000000001% of bad things said while he speaks truth to power.

He’s not perfect...nobody can be Clarence Thomas

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[quote=Chico23231;1274145]Yup we all do..and every in the public eye does as well. difference is he owns it. People who attempt to discredit harp on it...it’s well known. On Twitter today people are crying like bitches he was given a platform on politico...most bringing up old quotes, so dwell on that .00000000000000000000001% of bad things said while he speaks truth to power.

He’s not perfect...nobody can be Clarence Thomas[/quote]

This is how its done people. Pushing buttons and pulling strings. Chico you are on point today good man. You almost had me responding with substance to one of your prior posts.

[IMG]https://i1.wp.com/tvwriter.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/pulling-strings.jpg?resize=450%2C253[/IMG]

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Chico in the political threads...

[IMG]https://about-history.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/cd5d4f95d82d6b89496caf4f937ba3a5.jpg[/IMG]

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It's human nature, but it's not a good quality. We all do it.

We look at other people's behavior in the past to justify current or future actions by others or ourselves.

Fuck Antifa and BLM rioters (not all of BLM). And fuck people storming the capital. People are needlessly dead due to both.

It doesn't matter what one is worse. They are all fuckheads. We should all condemn bad behavior no matter who is doing it. We have some short of shit scale we use to rate the shit and if determined prior behavior was worse or equivalent, to disregard it.

And we (the whole country, on both sides) have politicized holding people accountable. It's like if we admit someone that can even remotely be aligned with our own politics does something wrong, we're admitting that we ourselves did it.

I'm as conservative as it gets. There is nothing about being a conservative that supports being a racist or a whiny fucking loser when you lose. I've certainly had enough.

Note - See my signature. I'm as guilty as anyone of all of this but I'm trying to improve on it.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1274171]Chico in the political threads...

[IMG]https://about-history.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/cd5d4f95d82d6b89496caf4f937ba3a5.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I call it my comfort zone

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Ive had enough of people like this. 17 years old, go to a BLM protest in another State with a AR, look for trouble, find trouble, kill 2 people ....

then become a white nationalist folk hero ... this segment of the US, celebrating killings of others, flashing white power signs then turns around and wonders why everyone calls them racist ... I dont get it.

I dont know if he will see jail time .. but I really really hope so.[/quote]

Absolute trash

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Ive had enough of people like this. 17 years old, go to a BLM protest in another State with a AR, look for trouble, find trouble, kill 2 people ....

then become a white nationalist folk hero ... this segment of the US, celebrating killings of others, flashing white power signs then turns around and wonders why everyone calls them racist ... I dont get it.

I dont know if he will see jail time .. but I really really hope so.[/quote]

Acknowledge the entire riots in Kenosha Wisc was based in a bullshit lie driven by dishonest media, politicians, social media, etc. The officers did nothing wrong.

So a gang of antifa/BLM should be able to freely burn down, commit violent acts against anyone based on what?

I would say, both these groups in Kenosha were looking for trouble. I don’t mind the peaceful protest, but I don’t have a problem with folks protecting their business from rioters...in fact I strongly agree with that right.

I don’t get it

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[quote=Chico23231;1274178]Acknowledge the entire riots in Kenosha Wisc was based in a bullshit lie driven by dishonest media, politicians, social media, etc. The officers did nothing wrong.

So a gang of antifa/BLM should be able to freely burn down, commit violent acts against anyone based on what?

I don’t get it[/quote]

Nothing you said , not a fucking thing has shit to do with this kid going out some place he doesn't live and killing two people , now he is treated as a super star . Fuck him.