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Well, my party can't get their act together. I was hoping Emmer would be voted in, but I guess the MAGA wing or elements of it have decided they will not support anyone who is not MAGA. Unfortunately, that is most of the GOP caucus in the House and enough of that group won't support a MAGA guy. (Figure about 20+ MAGA on one side and 40+ or so non-MAGA on the other won't compromise). My prediction - The government will shut down on 17 November due to a lack of a Speaker.

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I just wanted to say that I care about all of y'all and am very thankful for this site and community. And even though I haven't met any of you in-person (yet), I do consider most of you guys my friends.

I hope all is well!

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[quote=That Guy;1349341]lots of missing nuance. part of Hamas's rise was due to fatah (the previous ruling party) being super corrupt, and the main selling point was that they wouldn't be. A lot of the people there are also tired of living in something of a prison-state. Not saying there aren't concerns (Hamas has always been pretty okay with violence against civilians, not looking for coexistence, etc), but part of the reason they're in power is because of how disliked Israeli policies towards Palestinians are there and that no one seems to be doing much about it. (Also, egypt and jordan really DO NOT want palestinian refugees, and Iran likes using them, but doesn't actually care about them).

the cause/effect chain goes all the way back to the founding. it's interconnected and messy.[/quote]

A prison state? Complete nonsense.

Palestinian chose Hamas…a jihadist death cult style Islamist trash over the secular option back in the 2000s

Super corrupt in the Middle East? I can’t believe it. Corrupt like this: [url]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-plagued-poverty-hamas-no-shortage-cash-come-rcna121099[/url]

“Gaza is plagued by poverty, but Hamas has no shortage of cash. Where does it come from?
Hamas has an investment portfolio of real estate and other assets worth $500 million, say experts, and an annual military budget of as much as $350 million.“

Hamas being eradicated would serve the people in Palestinians and Israel.

Yet again Biden administration has failed in the Middle East. Their policy with Iran is the foundation of the terrorist attack and now the on going war. This is almost as bad as the Obama administration

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So why is all these Jew hating chanting, antisemitic marches in big cities and college campuses suddenly ok?

Is it because they don’t have tiki torches?

Funny to see how these suddenly ok with the left and endorsed by college campuses administration. I guess that’s just nuance

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chico , thank God you weren't around during the Vietnam war. You're a dumb fuck!

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[quote=Chico23231;1350176]So why is all these Jew hating chanting, antisemitic marches in big cities and college campuses suddenly ok?

Is it because they don’t have tiki torches?

Funny to see how these suddenly ok with the left and endorsed by college campuses administration. I guess that’s just nuance[/quote]

Same reason why they allow KKK and Nazi members to march. It's part of free speech even if that speech sucks ass.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1350192]Same reason why they allow KKK and Nazi members to march. It's part of free speech even if that speech sucks ass.[/quote]

I guess what’s crazy to me instead of a group of 20-30 back woods rednecks, it’s hundreds to sometimes thousands white college educated or current college kids proudly engaged in this brash antisemitism in these demonstrations. Even some college professors and administrators encouraging it.

Further proof of a serious mental health crisis among the youth

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/insane-number-gen-zers-support-hamass-slaughter-innocent-israelis-opinion-1837422[/url]

An Insane Number of Gen Zers Support Hamas's Slaughter of Innocent Israelis

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[quote=Chico23231;1350198]I guess what’s crazy to me instead of a group of 20-30 back woods rednecks, it’s hundreds to sometimes thousands white college educated or current college kids proudly engaged in this brash antisemitism in these demonstrations. Even some college professors and administrators encouraging it.

Further proof of a serious mental health crisis among the youth

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/insane-number-gen-zers-support-hamass-slaughter-innocent-israelis-opinion-1837422[/url]

An Insane Number of Gen Zers Support Hamas's Slaughter of Innocent Israelis[/quote]

So you admit you're just stupid as shit, good!

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This is what evil looks like.............

[url]https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1719662664090075199?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719662664090075199%7Ctwgr%5E1aa5cebe9965633edf6c5cf57aef8f9e136103fb%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthegiantsboard.proboards.com%2Fthread%2F7390%2Fpolitically-speaking-respectful-dialogue%3Fpage%3D784[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1350925]This is what evil looks like.............

[url]https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1719662664090075199?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719662664090075199%7Ctwgr%5E1aa5cebe9965633edf6c5cf57aef8f9e136103fb%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthegiantsboard.proboards.com%2Fthread%2F7390%2Fpolitically-speaking-respectful-dialogue%3Fpage%3D784[/url][/quote]

Hamas is definitely evil, but I can't help but feel like Israel (at least the gov't/military) is no better because if you slaughter 100 kids to kill 1 general you really don't have the moral high ground to stand on. It's just a shitty situation all around. The only people I truly feel for are the innocent families on both sides who want to live together in peace. The supporters of Hamas/Israel's military aren't any better than the ones doing the killing.

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[quote=mooby;1350928]Hamas is definitely evil, but I can't help but feel like Israel (at least the gov't/military) is no better because if you slaughter 100 kids to kill 1 general you really don't have the moral high ground to stand on. It's just a shitty situation all around. The only people I truly feel for are the innocent families on both sides who want to live together in peace. The supporters of Hamas/Israel's military aren't any better than the ones doing the killing.[/quote]
No argument.

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When a single senator can hold up nominations for over 9 months pertaining to national security we have a problem

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[quote=mooby;1350928]Hamas is definitely evil, but I can't help but feel like Israel (at least the gov't/military) is no better because if you slaughter 100 kids to kill 1 general you really don't have the moral high ground to stand on. It's just a shitty situation all around. The only people I truly feel for are the innocent families on both sides who want to live together in peace. The supporters of Hamas/Israel's military aren't any better than the ones doing the killing.[/quote]

Israel for years has been the best in the world, even better than us, for targeting actions designed to prevent civilian casualties. They are the only military that knocks targets prior to attack (small explosive). This allows civilians and, yes the bad guys time to evacuate. Refusing to target the bad guys when they have civilians around them incentivizes bad guys to always surround themselves with civilians. Much like paying kidnappers leads to more kidnappings allowing bad guys to use this tactic successfully ultimately leads to more civilian deaths.

You are off base here and have fallen for what Hamas tactic was designed for.

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[quote=nonniey;1350960]Israel for years has been the best in the world, even better than us, for targeting actions designed to prevent civilian casualties. They are the only military that knocks targets prior to attack (small explosive). This allows civilians and, yes the bad guys time to evacuate. Refusing to target the bad guys when they have civilians around them incentivizes bad guys to always surround themselves with civilians. Much like paying kidnappers leads to more kidnappings allowing bad guys to use this tactic successfully ultimately leads to more civilian deaths.

You are off base here and have fallen for what Hamas tactic was designed for.[/quote]

All those words and all I see is "those civilians had ample warning to leave! If they died it's their own fault!"

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This is the ignorance of the Republican party on full display here........................


[url]https://atlantablackstar.com/2023/11/02/gop-leader-quits-after-racist-tweet-resurfaces/[/url]


[COLOR="Black"]‘I Am a Man Who Stands By His Words’: Unapologetic North Dakota GOP Leader Quits After Racist Tweet Suggesting Black People Should ‘Move to Wakanda’ Resurfaces[/COLOR]


The newly-appointed executive director of the North Dakota Republican Party is officially on the outs early into his position after it was discovered that his X account is riddled with racist and sexist tweets.

It took only 10 days after Dave Roetman was hired on to be the state’s party executive for him to resign after those social media posts were found and reported.

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[quote=nonniey;1350960]Israel for years has been the best in the world, even better than us, for targeting actions designed to prevent civilian casualties. They are the only military that knocks targets prior to attack (small explosive). This allows civilians and, yes the bad guys time to evacuate. Refusing to target the bad guys when they have civilians around them incentivizes bad guys to always surround themselves with civilians. Much like paying kidnappers leads to more kidnappings allowing bad guys to use this tactic successfully ultimately leads to more civilian deaths.

You are off base here and have fallen for what Hamas tactic was designed for.[/quote]

What was the Hamas tactic for the raid on the Music festival for? Look these two Governments want to go at it fine but make no mistake both sides in this are out of control. Hamas started this and there is no doubt but Israel is not making any allies by what they are doing.

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[quote=mooby;1350928]Hamas is definitely evil, but I can't help but feel like Israel (at least the gov't/military) is no better because if you slaughter 100 kids to kill 1 general you really don't have the moral high ground to stand on. It's just a shitty situation all around. The only people I truly feel for are the innocent families on both sides who want to live together in peace. The supporters of Hamas/Israel's military aren't any better than the ones doing the killing.[/quote]

What are you talking about? 100 kids? You understand this a war and Hamas is using human shields?

“Hamas is evil, but….” Israel is actually, much better by a large margin. Listen to the clip again

Terrorist apologists are the worst

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[quote=Giantone;1350980]What was the Hamas tactic for the raid on the Music festival for? Look these two Governments want to go at it fine but make no mistake both sides in this are out of control. Hamas started this and there is no doubt but Israel is not making any allies by what they are doing.[/quote]

“Out of control”


You guys are pathetic. Hamas is shooting their own people trying to flee the north. Hamas Leadership has explicitly stated high children and women death tolls are a strategy, they want their own to be killed. They purposely put headquarters, ammunition and terrorists in hospitals and schools.

Are you and Mooby stating you don’t know this?

Listening to liberals whine about a terrorist org and Iranian pawn being taken off the board is something else.

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[quote=Chico23231;1351032]“Out of control”


You guys are pathetic. Hamas is shooting their own people trying to flee the north. Hamas Leadership has explicitly stated high children and women death tolls are a strategy, they want their own to be killed. They purposely put headquarters, ammunition and terrorists in hospitals and schools.

Are you and Mooby stating you don’t know this?

Listening to liberals whine about a terrorist org and Iranian pawn being taken off the board is something else.[/quote]

I apologize, I thought when you defended trump you were stupid. Now I read what you write and know you're a fucking moron.

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Dems had a Big Night!

[url]https://apnews.com/[/url]


Democrats win in several states on abortion rights and other highlights from Tuesday’s elections
Democrats have plenty of good news to celebrate in Tuesday’s off-year elections and more evidence that they can win races centered on the national debate over abortion.


[url]https://apnews.com/article/ohio-abortion-amendment-election-2023-fe3e06747b616507d8ca21ea26485270[/url]
Ohio voters enshrine abortion access in constitution in latest statewide win for reproductive rights

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Maga is the gift that keeps on giving. Right never gonna learn.

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[quote=punch it in;1351394]Maga is the gift that keeps on giving. Right never gonna learn.[/quote]

LOL, wonder how chico like living among the Democrat's in VA.?


chico..........

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Nobody wants extremism. That is how dictatorships are governed. This is fucking America. It isn’t my way or the highway. You want that shit ill help you pack for China or Russia or Iran. It is why this country exists. It is what a fucking democracy is all about. Not some whiny crooked blowhard trying to mold the nation in his disgusting image and kiss his ring.

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Well at least Susanna Gibson lost. Hard right conservatives in Virginia can sleep easy knowing someone that enjoys having sex will not be making laws in their state.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1351410]Well at least Susanna Gibson lost. Hard right conservatives in Virginia can sleep easy knowing someone that enjoys having sex will not be making laws in their state.[/quote]

LOL, having sex with [B]her Husband![/B]
Yet it was close.51%-48%

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Democrats uniting in this thread today like:

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/PH-H76txSeYAAAAC/old-school-todd.gif[/IMG]

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The House Republicans are the biggest disaster in US Government history. Electing people based on the fact that they say nice things about Donald Trump is a sure fire way to get nothing done. They are incapable of governing. They literally are not qualified for their jobs. It is crazy. They also don’t give a fuck. They enjoy the chaos and do not suffer the consequences.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1351422]Democrats uniting in this thread today like:

[IMG]https://media.tenor.com/PH-H76txSeYAAAAC/old-school-todd.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]


[IMG]https://media2.giphy.com/media/9OQxeo6BqGhzyQGede/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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Hey Nonniey, do you get to vote in the 8th?

[url]https://www.businessinsider.com/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-congress-arizona-2023-11[/url]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1351934]Hey Nonniey, do you get to vote in the 8th?

[url]https://www.businessinsider.com/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-congress-arizona-2023-11[/url][/quote]

No, mine is the 6th.

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[quote=nonniey;1351957]No, mine is the 6th.[/quote]

What’s the feeling in AZ does this clown have a chance?

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1351959]What’s the feeling in AZ does this clown have a chance?[/quote]

In AZ there is always a chance for a clown . Look at these two?


[IMG]https://www.azcentral.com/gcdn/presto/2022/11/05/USAT/dfb8f323-301a-47b0-aad6-912d225ebbe0-GTY_1410394716.jpg?width=700&height=495&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;1351967]In AZ there is always a chance for a clown . Look at these two?


[IMG]https://www.azcentral.com/gcdn/presto/2022/11/05/USAT/dfb8f323-301a-47b0-aad6-912d225ebbe0-GTY_1410394716.jpg?width=700&height=495&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp[/IMG][/quote]

AZ went for Biden in 2020 and Hobbs in 2022 so…

It will depend on where district 8 is and how it is gerrymandered. If it cuts through Maricopa county he probably would have no chance but IDk

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Deleted - Odd edit glitch. _ Caused a 2d post instead over hours after I submitted the edit.

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[quote=Giantone;1351967]In AZ there is always a chance for a clown . Look at these two?


[IMG]https://www.azcentral.com/gcdn/presto/2022/11/05/USAT/dfb8f323-301a-47b0-aad6-912d225ebbe0-GTY_1410394716.jpg?width=700&height=495&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp[/IMG][/quote]

Yep, Governor Lake really sucks and those electoral college votes from AZ is what reelected Trump. This Q guy I'm sure will be just as successful.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1351969]AZ went for Biden in 2020 and Hobbs in 2022 so…

It will depend on where district 8 is and how it is[B] gerrymandered.[/B] If it cuts through Maricopa county he probably would have no chance but IDk[/quote]

yup.............

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George Santos.................

[B][SIZE="5"]
Rep. George Santos hit with scathing ethics report[/SIZE][/B], says he won't seek reelection
The New York Republican responded to the findings with a defiant statement.


In many different ways, the Ethics Committee found, the New York Republican "sought to exploit his campaign, and the access to wealthy donors it afforded him, for his own personal profit."

Among other misdeeds, Santos allegedly reported fictitious loans to get wealthy donors to make contributions, used his connections to obtain yet more donations, including to make "purported 'repayments' of those fictitious loans," and diverted campaign money for his own use.

"And he sustained all of this through a constant series of lies to his constituents, donors, and staff about his background and experience," the ethics report reads.

Santos' questionable expenses ranged from some $2,280 in Atlantic City, New Jersey, last year -- where he liked to play roulette, often with his husband -- to $2,900 that was labeled for "Botox" as well as approximately $10,000 spent at high-end Ferragamo and Hermes stores, about $3,330 at a rental property while his calendar listed him as being in the Hamptons in New York and various sums to pay off credit card debt and his rent, among other suspect spending such as charges in Las Vegas while Santos was believed to be on his honeymoon, the report states.



[B] "In a recent interview, he cast himself as a victim, someone who is being held to a different standard[/B] Just like trump always the victim, kinda like the three amigos here. lol.

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Trump laid out the playbook for guys like George Santos. A sheister until the end, always fight and never apologize for anything.

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[quote=mooby;1352150]Trump laid out the playbook for guys like George Santos. A sheister until the end, always fight and never apologize for anything.[/quote]

That's the playbook for the entire republican party.

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Was in a discussion with a Marine Trump supporter over the Trump coup attempt, and asked how given he had taken the oath he could support someone who is an enemy of the Constitution. He stated there was nothing illegal about what was attempted.

So, I pointed out that Eastman admitted his plan violated the Electoral Count Act and relayed that to Trump and crew. He doesn't believe Eastman did any such thing. I then pointed out that the prosecutors had to disclose this evidence in their indictments and it was there for anyone to review. His response was there was nothing illegal about what was attempted (As if I what I just said / pointed out about the evidence just didn't occur). I just don't get how people are able to just refuse to believe what is put in front of them. I've seen this ability all my life (on this board too), but still don't get it.