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MTK 01-07-2017 07:45 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Sorry but McCoy isn't stepping in and throwing for 4700 yards.

Chico23231 01-07-2017 07:47 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1161938][url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/questions-emerge-if-colt-mccoy-can-produce-similar-results-lesser-cost-kirk]Questions emerge if Colt McCoy can produce similar results at lesser cost than Kirk Cousins, per source | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Here is another write up claiming "insiders" believe that they can get it done with McCoy next season. This one's recent[/quote]

McCoy is a good back up, but he doesn't have the arm strength Cousins has.

MTK 01-07-2017 07:49 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1161948]McCoy is a good back up, but he doesn't have the arm strength Cousins has.[/quote]

Or the durability, or 32 starts under his belt in this offense, or many other things that just makes this conversation retarded

mooby 01-07-2017 11:59 AM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1161950]Or the durability, or 32 starts under his belt in this offense, or many other things that just makes this conversation retarded[/quote]

Maybe they saw how well he holds the clipboard, or in this case the tablet, and judged him off of that.

skinsfaninok 01-07-2017 12:03 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1161946]Sorry but McCoy isn't stepping in and throwing for 4700 yards.[/QUOTE]
No chance. Can he win games? Yes if you have a top 5 D and top 10 run game but that ain't happening next year..

MTK 01-07-2017 12:06 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1161985]No chance. Can he win games? Yes if you have a top 5 D and top 10 run game but that ain't happening next year..[/quote]

In a pinch he's a good backup, over the course of a season he would get exposed. His arm is just too limited.

Buffalo Bob 01-07-2017 12:42 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1161938][url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/questions-emerge-if-colt-mccoy-can-produce-similar-results-lesser-cost-kirk]Questions emerge if Colt McCoy can produce similar results at lesser cost than Kirk Cousins, per source | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

Here is another write up claiming "insiders" believe that they can get it done with McCoy next season. This one's recent[/quote]

Who are the insiders McCoy's mother and his agent? Are you sure that wasn't an Onion article?

KI Skins Fan 01-07-2017 12:57 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1161991]Who are the insiders McCoy's mother and his agent? [B]Are you sure that wasn't an Onion article?[/B][/quote]

LOL! That explains everything. The Onion strikes again!

But seriously, who in Redskins Park with any authority could be that dumb? Is Vinny back?

Hold on a minute! Did I say "dumb" and "Vinny"? Hmmm, dumb...Vinny...Dumb and Dumber. Never mind, I think I know who it could be.

Chief X_Phackter 01-07-2017 01:45 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Long term deal. Redskins have no leverage here, just get it done and move on with the rest of the roster.

warriorzpath 01-07-2017 03:27 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Cousins also needs to think about this in terms of expectations and pressure.

The more he asked for and the more he gets- it adds that much more expectations that the fans and Redskins have for him.

They keep saying he likes to bet on himself and he did this past season. But did he definitively win that bet this past season? There's still some questions about that because there's still questions about his game. So it seems like a push - and that's where it seems like we're at. Almost the same spot following last season.

SolidSnake84 01-07-2017 03:31 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=warriorzpath;1162007]Cousins also needs to think about this in terms of expectations and pressure.

The more he asked for and the more he gets- it adds that much more expectations that the fans and Redskins have for him.

They keep saying he likes to bet on himself and he did this past season. But did he definitively win that bet this past season? There's still some questions about that because there's still questions about his game. So it seems like a push - and that's where it seems like we're at. Almost the same spot following last season.[/quote]

Good Post, but i think the Question on if Cousins is a quality NFL starter has been answered. The issue at this point is not "Will NFL Teams pay Cousins starting QB money?", because they will. Cousins will be signed for sure if the Redskins let him go.

The question is now, "Will the Redskins pay Kirk Cousins starting QB money", and I think that answer is no.

warriorzpath 01-07-2017 03:39 PM

Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1162009]Good Post, but i think the Question on if Cousins is a quality NFL starter has been answered. The issue at this point is not "Will NFL Teams pay Cousins starting QB money?", because they will. Cousins will be signed for sure if the Redskins let him go.



The question is now, "Will the Redskins pay Kirk Cousins starting QB money", and I think that answer is no.[/QUOTE]



I believe he's a good quarterback and may be able to take it to the next level. But I think that's where the Redskins and fans like me still wonder- will he be able to take it to the next level? Because I think that's the kind of money he's asking for. ... for him to get to and to also take the Redskins to the next level

SolidSnake84 01-07-2017 03:52 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=warriorzpath;1162010]I believe he's a good quarterback and may be able to take it to the next level. But I think that's where the Redskins and fans like me still wonder- will he be able to take it to the next level? Because I think that's the kind of money he's asking for. ... for him to get to and to also take the Redskins to the next level[/quote]

I like your posts and the way you think. I will go on record and say that I do not think that Cousins is the type of QB who can win the game all by himself, BUT, i think if you give him a complete team, which is something he doesn't have, he is a guy that wins you plenty of big games and probably the superbowl.

Let's play Devil's Advocate for a moment here and pretend that our defense was basically average this season, and we had a good kicking game. That's a scenario where we finish 11-5 or better. Hopkins alone cost us at minimum three games. Let's say the defense stayed exactly the same (League worst) and Hopkins didn't blow crucial kicks. We have now finished with at minimum at 10-6 record, but most likely 12-4. Cousins still cost us the giants game at year end. BUT, at 12-4, you feel great going into the playoffs and there is no debate now over Cousins, he's brought you back to back winning seasons and back to back playoff seasons. Do you see what i'm saying? Amazing that Cousins won 8 games (really nine in my book because of the tie) with a defense that was so historically bad. He had to put above 30 points every week just to have a chance at winning.

Chico23231 01-07-2017 03:59 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
Bromance is in the air

Schneed10 01-07-2017 04:05 PM

Re: Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1161950]Or the durability, or 32 starts under his belt in this offense, or many other things that just makes this conversation retarded[/quote]

Bravo sir


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