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[quote=punch it in;1361028]Forget about the supreme court. If everything you know and have seen you still think this wasn’t an orchestrated attempt by Trump and his cohorts to overturn an election, aka, a coup attempt than you are simply lying to yourself. I mean there are so many dots from the years, months, weeks, days, and hours leading up to the failed insurrection connecting Trump to a plot to overthrow our own government that it would be comical if it weren’t.

You can cry from the hills of denial all you want Chico but it isn’t even a debate anymore. It is just a huge legal mess because there are Trump supporters sprinkled throughout the legislative judicial and executive branches of our government who are obstructing and or delaying the process since Jan 6 2021. If he were anyone else besides the President when he did this he would be locked up for life. U know it, he knows it, and every other Trump apologist knows it.[/quote]

I've talked to enough MAGA types to realize most of them have no idea about the Eastman plan/plans, what the intent of those plans were, how they were to work and that Eastman admitted in writing the illegality of the plans. When you say he attempted a coup they think you are talking about the riot and are being hyperbolic. The protest which turned into a riot was just another attempt to pressure Pence into executing the coup.

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If Trump goes on to win in November it will be because of stupid moves like this by the Biden administration. This follows the unforced error in apologizing for calling illegals illegals in his State of the Union a couple of weeks back.
[url]https://nypost.com/2024/03/31/opinion/are-biden-amp-co-trolling-us-all-with-trans-day-on-easter-or-just-that-clueless/[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1361037]If Trump goes on to win in November it will be because of stupid moves like this by the Biden administration. This follows the unforced error in apologizing for calling illegals illegals in his State of the Union a couple of weeks back.
[url]https://nypost.com/2024/03/31/opinion/are-biden-amp-co-trolling-us-all-with-trans-day-on-easter-or-just-that-clueless/[/url][/quote]

Greatest idea ,no, not defending Biden. If trump goes to win in November it will be becuase of the assholes that support him. Who ignore all his criminal activate.

FCS trump is selling Bibles.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1361031]I've talked to enough MAGA types to realize most of them have no idea about the Eastman plan/plans, what the intent of those plans were, how they were to work and that Eastman admitted in writing the illegality of the plans. When you say he attempted a coup they think you are talking about the riot and are being hyperbolic. The protest which turned into a riot was just another attempt to pressure Pence into executing the coup.[/QUOTE]


Of course they don’t know about that. They watch Fox News who still calls it a field trip.

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Why is Biden tacking so far left the last few weeks? It doesn't make sense. Yesterday he attacked the Florida Supreme Court for upholding the abortion ban. Problem was he focused on the 15 week portion of the ban, which is where the majority of the country is, instead of focusing on the more extreme 6 week ban that was also found to be constitutional (FL) if the voters decide to enact it. I and many like me are single issue (stopping Trump) voters who will very reluctantly send our votes to Biden. He shouldn't be putting any effort into driving us away (And, yes I'm still voting against Trump almost nothing will change that).

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1361046]Why is Biden tacking so far left the last few weeks? It doesn't make sense. Yesterday he attacked the Florida Supreme Court for upholding the abortion ban. Problem was he focused on the 15 week portion of the ban, which is where the majority of the country is, instead of focusing on the more extreme 6 week ban that was also found to be constitutional (FL) if the voters decide to enact it. I and many like me are single issue (stopping Trump) voters who will very reluctantly send our votes to Biden. He shouldn't be putting any effort into driving us away (And, yes I'm still voting against Trump almost nothing will change that).[/QUOTE]


Here is what he actually said which was about a 6 week ban. Why do you think he focused on 15 weeks? It will become a six week ban next month.

He literally never attacked a 15 week ban. He attacked the steps leading to a 6 week ban and this ruling by the supreme court of crazy town (Florida) was the first step in getting there. Anyone who said Biden attacked a 15 week ban is wrong on two levels. The 15 week is simply the stepping stone to six and on top of that he never said 15 weeks is insane. He said 6 weeks is. Biden isn’t as confused as the right is…once again.

Biden said the court's decision was set to trigger a Republican-backed law slashing the current limit of 15 weeks to six "before many (women) even know they are pregnant."



[url]https://www.barrons.com/news/biden-slams-outrageous-florida-six-week-abortion-ban-0dd84fc2[/url]

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It's draft month, and y'all talking about abortion (using Allen Iverson voice)?

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.........he's drinking again.

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[quote=Giantone;1361055].........he's drinking again.[/quote]

I just finished work when I posted that. I was not drinking. You are such a boring sack of shit.

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[quote=punch it in;1361047]Here is what he actually said which was about a 6 week ban. Why do you think he focused on 15 weeks? It will become a six week ban next month.

He literally never attacked a 15 week ban. He attacked the steps leading to a 6 week ban and this ruling by the supreme court of crazy town (Florida) was the first step in getting there. Anyone who said Biden attacked a 15 week ban is wrong on two levels. The 15 week is simply the stepping stone to six and on top of that he never said 15 weeks is insane. He said 6 weeks is. Biden isn’t as confused as the right is…once again.

Biden said the court's decision was set to trigger a Republican-backed law slashing the current limit of 15 weeks to six "before many (women) even know they are pregnant."



[url]https://www.barrons.com/news/biden-slams-outrageous-florida-six-week-abortion-ban-0dd84fc2[/url][/quote]

Strange I tried to responded to this twice yesterday and neither responses posted. I got that impression from The Hill. Very similar write up to Barrons but wiht a different focus.
[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4569392-biden-florida-court-abortion-ruling-outrageous/[/url]

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How Biden's regulations are driving up inflation"
[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/4571477-mulvaney-how-bidens-regulations-are-driving-up-inflation/[/url]

I think this is more of a Dem thing than a Biden thing. Back in 2000 the Clinton administration passed a regulation that required water to have arsenic levels exponentially lower than what occurred naturally. The cost benefit didn't support that regulation (Democrats hate cost benefit studies). Bottolime it ended up costing 100s of millions annually for a benefit that would prevent the death of 6-10 people over 25 years (But what about those people??? Aren't they worth more than money???! Was the rejoinder).

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[quote=nonniey;1361062]How Biden's regulations are driving up inflation"
[url]https://thehill.com/opinion/4571477-mulvaney-how-bidens-regulations-are-driving-up-inflation/[/url]

I think this is more of a Dem thing than a Biden thing. Back in 2000 the Clinton administration passed a regulation that required water to have arsenic levels exponentially lower than what occurred naturally. The cost benefit didn't support that regulation (Democrats hate cost benefit studies). Bottolime it ended up costing 100s of millions annually for a benefit that would prevent the death of 6-10 people over 25 years (But what about those people??? Aren't they worth more than money???! Was the rejoinder).[/quote]

Just want to point out that your link is Opinion and not fact. Pretty much ignores , lack of decent min wage hikes over the last 40 years(not Biden), ignores oil futures and OPEC (not Biden) and ignores the pandemic contribution to inflation. Again not defending Biden just laying out facts that are ignored by many.

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All solid points G-1. Especially about the pandemic. I think alot of anti Biden people flat out refuse to understand how much it had to do with the inflation issues.

Also people need to understand the relationship between the deficit and inflation.

Also, “Inflation is down two-thirds from its peak and annual core inflation is the lowest since May 2021. Wages are rising faster than prices over the last year and since the pandemic.”

Everyone wants to blame Biden, but we have bounced back better than any economy in the world since the pandemic. And we didn’t go off the rails printing money like some other moron with his 7 trillion dollar bullshit bankruptcy loving nonsense. Lol.

Remember that recession that was otw last year? Thanks Joe.

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[quote=Giantone;1361072]Just want to point out that your link is Opinion and not fact. Pretty much ignores , lack of decent min wage hikes over the last 40 years(not Biden), ignores oil futures and OPEC (not Biden) and ignores the pandemic contribution to inflation. Again not defending Biden just laying out facts that are ignored by many.[/quote]

All those things drive up inflation, but so do unnecessary regulations. Problem we've had since 2009 for new administrations seems to be to completely abandon, reject or out-right undermine all of their predecessors' policies whether they were good, bad, working or not. Bad way of doing things for the country.

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[quote=nonniey;1361078]All those things drive up inflation, but so do unnecessary regulations. Problem we've had since 2009 for new administrations seems to be to completely abandon, reject or out-right undermine all of their predecessors' policies whether they were good, bad, working or not. Bad way of doing things for the country.[/quote]

I will disagree with you . Big Companies were running rough shot over the Country. Do you remember Wall Street Crash, ATT before the break up? Just one example. bleeding customers and employees dry. Remember Enron? You say the regulations aren't necessary but give no way of keeping those Companies or Industries in check .You say since 2009 but it's been going on through out the history of this Country, it's what this Country does protect it's Citizens from Private Enterprise that tries to take advantage of the people in it. Do I agree with all of them no but yes they are needed but they aren't the reason for inflation. Shutting Down the Country for two years is a biggest reason and that was on the Republicans and Democrats equally.

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Let's talk about un needed regulations,


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/florida-baffles-experts-banning-local-215200502.html[/url]

USA TODAY
[B]Florida baffles experts by banning local water break rules as deadly heat is on the rise[/B]

Sweltering summer heat might have been more bearable for outdoor workers in Miami-Dade County under a proposal that suggested mandated breaks in the shade on the hottest days – but Florida said no.

The county's proposal to establish heat rules for workers has been preempted by a new law: Florida has joined Texas in banning such local rules for outdoor workers. Meanwhile, California, Colorado, Minnesota, Oregon and Washington have passed laws giving more protections to construction workers who work in extreme heat.

Florida's new law has frustrated and angered some experts and advocates for construction workers and farmworkers. As summers get hotter over the years, outdoor workers will need more protections, not fewer, said Luigi Guadarrama, political director of Sierra Club Florida said.





I realize this isn't what you were talking about but it does prove a point.
Nonniey , let me ask you a question, after Enron and Bernie Madoff two things that lost Billions for thousands of people , people went Bankrupt lost their homes . their retirements, don't you think they need to be regulated?


I'm assuming you meaning more alone this line, sad that they are needed.

[B]Federal antitrust laws prevent unfair business practices that reduce competition. The following practices are banned:[/B]

[B]Conspiring to fix prices:[/B] Competing businesses cannot work together to set prices.

[B]Price discrimination:[/B] Businesses cannot charge different prices to different customers for the same product.

[B]Conspiring to allocate markets or customers[/B]: Competing businesses cannot agree to split sales areas or customers in an effort to eliminate competition.

[B]Conspiring to or forming a monopoly[/B]: Businesses are prohibited from creating a monopoly with the goal of reducing competition.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1361959]So the amount that Amon is going to get taxed is now going viral. For years I thought the tax differences between states would effect free agency, but it never really did. Now I think it will be noticed and it is only a matter of time until the NFLs competitiveness is effected. Harris should take that into account and build his stadium in state/City with the lowest income taxes.

[url]https://news.bloombergtax.com/tax-insights-and-commentary/tyreek-hill-moved-to-lower-his-state-taxes-and-hes-not-alone[/url][/QUOTE]

Government taking almost half of his money each year, but somehow still 34+ trillion dollars in debt. Fuck our government. A bunch of cunts.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/amon-ra-st-brown-s-mega-deal-makes-him-the-highest-paid-wr-in-the-nfl-but-it-comes-with-gut-wrenching-taxes/ar-AA1o3O88?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=9a27f5afca9e4563c9607403e908d0d3&ei=95[/url]

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361968]Government taking almost half of his money each year, but somehow still 34+ trillion dollars in debt. Fuck our government. A bunch of cunts.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/amon-ra-st-brown-s-mega-deal-makes-him-the-highest-paid-wr-in-the-nfl-but-it-comes-with-gut-wrenching-taxes/ar-AA1o3O88?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=9a27f5afca9e4563c9607403e908d0d3&ei=95[/url][/quote]

Don't make a blanket statement out of ignorance.


google is your friend.

[url]https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/taxes/articles/heres-how-professional-athletes-pay-taxes/[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1361969]Don't make a blanket statement out of ignorance.

google is your friend.

[url]https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/taxes/articles/heres-how-professional-athletes-pay-taxes/[/url][/quote]

This doesn't discount anything my article says. It's absolute bullshit that he has to pay damn near half his salary in taxes.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361971]This doesn't discount anything my article says. It's absolute bullshit that he has to pay damn near half his salary in taxes.[/quote]

Point of the artical is all athletes have the same problem, it's the profession they chose. He can always go work at McDonalds in CA and make more money.

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[quote=Giantone;1361969]Don't make a blanket statement out of ignorance.


google is your friend.

[url]https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/taxes/articles/heres-how-professional-athletes-pay-taxes/[/url][/quote]

I don't understand your point. The article you posted doesn't refute what SDskins posted, it actually shows it is even worse.

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[quote=nonniey;1361977]I don't understand your point. The article you posted doesn't refute what SDskins posted, it actually shows it is even worse.[/quote]

Of course you don't, who said I was refuting any of it? Point is all professional sports people have the same issue. His statement made it seem like one person was being targeted and that's not true. All citizens pay taxes(or should) it's up to them and their advisers on how to keep as much as possible. Yes , it's a down fall of his chosen profession but you don't seem to care if Warren Buffet pays a lot in Taxes

SD,..... "Government taking almost half of his money each year, but somehow still 34+ trillion dollars in debt. [B]Fuck our government. A bunch of cunts[/B]."

SD comment, It's arrogant and ignorant.

Please defend him, it's what you do for him and chico.

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[quote=Giantone;1361979]Of course you don't, who said I was refuting any of it? Point is all professional sports people have the same issue. His statement made it seem like one person was being targeted and that's not true. All citizens pay taxes(or should) it's up to them and their advisers on how to keep as much as possible. Yes , it's a down fall of his chosen profession but you don't seem to care if Warren Buffet pays a lot in Taxes

SD,..... "Government taking almost half of his money each year, but somehow still 34+ trillion dollars in debt. [B]Fuck our government. A bunch of cunts[/B]."

SD comment, It's arrogant and ignorant.

Please defend him, it's what you do for him and chico.[/quote]

It's arrogant? WTF are you talking about?

The article was specifically about Amon-Ra St. Brown. So I was talking specifically about him. Not sure how discussing the player actually covered in the article is being ignorant either. And I never said this didn't happen to other players too. But keep just talking out of your ass, per usual.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361980]It's arrogant? WTF are you talking about?

The article was specifically about Amon-Ra St. Brown. So I was talking specifically about him. Not sure how discussing the player actually covered in the article is being ignorant either. And I never said this didn't happen to other players too. But keep just talking out of your ass, per usual.[/quote]

Stop, you always make it worse.

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[quote=Giantone;1361988]Stop, you always make it worse.[/quote]

Stop using words that you clearly don't know the meaning to.

Your initial posts are always top-notch dogshit, so I guess you never truly have to worry about making it worse. Must be freeing. Probably why you never take your own advice, and STFU.

G1:

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361997]Stop using words that you clearly don't know the meaning to.

Your initial posts are always top-notch dogshit, so I guess you never truly have to worry about making it worse. Must be freeing. Probably why you never take your own advice, and STFU.
[/quote]

Ahh, I know I hit a nerve when the meme's start. Your ignorance knows no bounds. It wasn't my post that was ignorant , you need to reread and think about your post.

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[quote=Giantone;1362005]Ahh, I know I hit a nerve when the meme's start. Your ignorance knows no bounds. It wasn't my post that was ignorant , you need to reread and think about your post.[/quote]

A. That's not a meme, that's a GIF.

B. I love memes and GIFs, I use both, all the fucking time.

C. Yes, you being a dumbfuck does strike a nerve.

D. Daniel Jones is terrible.

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this discussion is neither fresh nor cordial

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1362007]this discussion is neither fresh nor cordial

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I think both were lost at Pg. 1 of this thread.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1362007]this discussion is neither fresh nor cordial

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You're right but let's not forget what started it.....................
SD,
"Government taking almost half of his money each year, but somehow still 34+ trillion dollars in debt. [B]Fuck our government. A bunch of cunts."[/B]


;)

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1362008]I think both were lost at Pg. 1 of this thread.[/quote]

LOL, you'll start another one and screw it up too.

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I am civil servant so don't make much but get about 50% of my salary taken out in taxes. I don't mind paying taxes.

I like my house not catching on fire, driving on roads, going to hospitals when needed, public lands, public beaches and public nudity none of that is available without taxes.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1362028]I am civil servant so don't make much but get about 50% of my salary taken out in taxes. I don't mind paying taxes.

I like my house not catching on fire, driving on roads, going to hospitals when needed, public lands, public beaches and public nudity none of that is available without taxes.[/quote]

I feel much like you. Yes we all want to pay less but I honestly don't care about the tax burden of professional athletes. They have accounts and Managers and people to take care of them, John Q. Public does not.

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This piece of shit isn’t fit to be a President, he’s been a total coward and a liar

I guess I’ll be told how withholding congress approved aid to Israel is still someone else’s fault.

Based on the precedent set prior, this should be impeachable as Biden tries to appeal to terrorists supporting base of the democrats base of young voters and in Michigan as he withholds congressional approved aid to an ally.

Unless you believe the over 70% Palestinian approved terrorist Hamas is your ally.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1362028]I am civil servant so don't make much but get about 50% of my salary taken out in taxes. I don't mind paying taxes.

I like my house not catching on fire, driving on roads, going to hospitals when needed, public lands, public beaches and public nudity none of that is available without taxes.[/quote]

I think you all are missing the whole point of when I started this. Which is that players are starting to catch on to the benefits of signing with teams in lower taxed states. If the NFL doesn't compensate (Cap) I think it will lead to the unbalancing of league competition.

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[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/nyt-rfk-jr-says-worm-got-into-my-brain-and-ate-a-portion-of-it/ar-BB1m2zwC?ocid=BingNewsSearch[/url]

A worm ate part of RFK Jr's brain. He sounds like the perfect candidate for those of you who don't like DJT's personality but love his policies.

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[quote=Chico23231;1362072]This piece of shit isn’t fit to be a President, he’s been a total coward and a liar

I guess I’ll be told how withholding congress approved aid to Israel is still someone else’s fault.

Based on the precedent set prior, this should be impeachable as Biden tries to appeal to terrorists supporting base of the democrats base of young voters and in Michigan as he withholds congressional approved aid to an ally.

Unless you believe the over 70% Palestinian approved terrorist Hamas is your ally.[/quote]

Biden has always been weak. We are so screwed this election cycle. It would be as if the Brits had a choice between Chamberlain or Mosley for their leader in 1940.

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[quote=nonniey;1362083]Biden has always been weak. We are so screwed this election cycle. It would be as if the Brits had a choice between Chamberlain or Mosley for their leader in 1940.[/quote]

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[quote=nonniey;1362074]I think you all are missing the whole point of when I started this. Which is that players are starting to catch on to the benefits of signing with teams in lower taxed states. If the NFL doesn't compensate (Cap) I think it will lead to the unbalancing of league competition.[/quote]

There are limits to team rosters, if they want to play they will sign with the team that wants them regardless of Tax implications, again this has been going on for decades.