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?[??n?;238711]I am not seeing Jansen playing that bad. I thought Brunnell rolled to his left because he was left handed. I was kind of suprised that Parcels said that about Jansen. The guy that I have been disapointed with is Samuels.[/QUOTE]

samuels has played poorly in spots.. his weakness has always been speed rushers.. it is foolishness not to have given him help to contain freeney.. that was a coaching error.

still, his play has been superior to jansen's overall.

brunell rolls for the most part to escape pressure, although i am certain there are some designed roll outs.. that is another subject because when he does that, the field is so narrowed that the defense knows the ball is either going down the sideline or into the bench area.. either way, not very much chance of success.

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best super-stud FAs:
CB clements
DE freeney

the colts probably aren't letting freeney go, so that's not happening. clements could be signed, and that'd probably be a good idea. I don't know where we're going to get our pass rush from though. maybe we'll draft posluszny or one of the 4 1st round DEs (gaines adams, quentin moses, etc) for that...

as far as our roster, it depends on how the season ends and whether gibbs is back. i really wouldn't keep saunders around though, not unless he decides to stop insisting that his way will work when it hasn't come close yet. letting bill musgrave go was probably a mistake.

guys i wouldn't mind seeing let go:
coaches: saunders, some of the extraneous staff (what does don breaux DO anyways?)
QB: brunell, collins
HB: duckett
CB: rumph (dude sucks)
K: Hall, Novak (unless there's really no better option)
P: Frost (there will ALWAYS be a better option)

resignings: (if they can be retained fairly cheap, they have more value to the skins than anyone else)
HB: betts
LG: dockery

unfortunately, there's not much flexibility in who can be released. the guys that haven't stepped up (arch, carter, etc) are no gos cap wise, and some expensive parts won't save money. ditching guys like wynn and daniels would save money, but some kind of replacement needs to be lined up first, or else our TERRIBLE pass rush will get EVEN WORSE. 2008 might be a long year :/.

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oh yeah, i need a clarification on vincent. did we get him on waivers, or as a FA? I assume since the difference was 4 days (less than 1 week) we probably got him with his old contract... which would mean he'll be ~1.4mill in 07 and 1.5m in 08... which makes his total time on the roster less certain.

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[quote=That Guy;238757]oh yeah, i need a clarification on vincent. did we get him on waivers, or as a FA? I assume since the difference was 4 days (less than 1 week) we probably got him with his old contract... which would mean he'll be ~1.4mill in 07 and 1.5m in 08... which makes his total time on the roster less certain.[/quote]I think he was released outright, but I'm not certain.

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[quote=GTripp0012;238758]I think he was released outright, but I'm not certain.[/quote]

[I][B] [COLOR=#800000]WAIVER WIRE.[/COLOR][/B] Generally, any released player with four (4) or less credited seasons is placed on waivers at 4 PM on the date he is officially released, if said release is before 4 PM. Any team can submit claims for any of the recently [/I][I]waived players (note a released player with more than 4 credited seasons is deemed to be "released" rather than "waived"). When a player is claimed by more than one team, then the team with the worst record in the 2005 NFL regular season will be awarded the player (and assume the provisions of his contract). If the 2005 records of two or more clubs who claim the same player are identical, then additional tie breakers are used to determine to which team the player is allocated. Note if a team is awarded a player, then the club will most likely have to release a player currently on their roster in order to not exceed the previously noted 53 man roster limit.[/I]


so yeah, he was released outright and canuck's info must be a best guess. he still hasn't given rocky any signing bonus yet... poor rocky :(.

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[quote=SouperMeister;238039]Just the latest example of intelligent cap management by Philly to retain the team's core: [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2647220"]ESPN.com - NFL - Eagles DT Patterson inks seven-year, $32M extension[/URL]

Patterson joins guard [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6775"][COLOR=#0000ff]Shawn Andrews[/COLOR][/URL], cornerbacks [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5912"][COLOR=#0000ff]Lito Sheppard[/COLOR][/URL] and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5945"][COLOR=#0000ff]Sheldon Brown[/COLOR][/URL] and other top draft choices in recent years to receive extensions before their rookie contracts expire. But the Patterson deal was one of the earliest, coming in the middle of his second year.

Andy Reid is making a calculated gamble that Patterson and others will develop into solid players that would have commanded far more money if allowed to bid their services as free agents.[/quote]
And here's another example (Trent Cole): [url=http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/15947760.htm]Philadelphia Daily News | 11/07/2006 | Cole, Eagles agree on 5-year pact[/url]

With their solid cap management, Philly rarely let's a young core player get to free agency. Derrick Burgess is the only example I can recall of a good young player not getting an in-season extension. I'd much prefer for the Skins to leave room under the cap going into every season earmarked for retaining our core guys (like Pierce and Smoot) before they enter free agency. One more point - Philly usually gives large roster bonuses as opposed to signing bonuses. The advantage is that they ingest the roster bonus just that season instead of pro-rating a signing bonus over the life of the contract, minimizing cap impact in later years of their contracts.

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[quote=TAFKAS;236107]Here's a question for you guys. I'd say the odds are 90-10 that Brunell won't be back next year and I'll say 80-20 that Collins won't be back. So anyhow, assuming Campbell is our guy next year who is the backup?

Do we draft someone we can groom? Or, considering Campbell will essentially be a rookie, do we go after a veteran QB with playing experience. Some possibilities Jake Plummer (I don't like him personally), Chris Simms (if he's not back in Tampa, I think he'll look to start somewhere else), and here's an intriguing one Byron Leftwich (would bring him back home)

Anyway, I don't like thinking about next year yet but I am curious who might be our backup QB. What do you all think?[/quote]

I like the Chris Simms idea.

Get rid of Brunnel and Collins keep Campbell, then bring in Trent Greene as a #3.

ALSO

Please shit can John Hall!!!!

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get clements, and a high motor guy for a de or two, meaning guys that maybe arent great names but are great effort guys and non-stop motors.we need some tackeles to groom and a some guards.

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green would never come here to be a #3, he'll want to (and deserve to) start

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Why do we need Clements? Who is going to be the nickel CB? Springs was supposed to be the 'glue' that held the defense together, does he get demoted? We draft Rogers #9 overall 2 years ago, does he get demoted? Clements isn't coming in to be a nickel CB, dude is a stud.. It would be great if Freeney comes free but don't count on it. We need to trade down in the draft (assuming a top 10 pick) to add picks to get a SS, DE, CB, WR and OL depth. Skill positions we are ok but we don't have the other strong pieces to round out the roster.

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I agree with you. Yeah, it would be cool to get Clements and Freeny, but now it is time to build thru the draft. We dont have the cap space for it. Everyone is up in arms about the poor play of the free agents, but yet most people are calling for more high priced free agents.

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[quote=That Guy;241952]green would never come here to be a #3, he'll want to (and deserve to) start[/quote]


Green is 36, just had his head torn off and is about to be benched for the rest of the season.

He will be a #2 at best next year.

With Saunders here, why would he not come?

Saunder's offense is the offense that made Trent Green.

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[QUOTE=61cad;242046]Green is 36, just had his head torn off and is about to be benched for the rest of the season.

He will be a #2 at best next year.

With Saunders here, why would he not come?

Saunder's offense is the offense that made Trent Green.[/QUOTE]

I think Mike Martz might be a head coach again somehwere and depending on where he goes it wouldn't surprise me to see him bring Trent Green

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Green is not a #3 qb. He only led the nfl in offense the last 5 years and really showed no signs of his age. #3???? He's a starter.

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[quote=redsk1;242053]Green is not a #3 qb. He only led the nfl in offense the last 5 years and really showed no signs of his age. #3???? He's a starter.[/quote]


How is he doing this year?

36 and not getting younger.

Look at the 32 starting QB's in league who would start him over?

How about Miami? They benched their 29 year old banged up QB.

Maybe, Oakland but he would last one set of downs behind that O-line.

I don't see Trent Green starting anywhere next year.