Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;277730]you do have a point there i just dont want a mark brunell tpye contract going to fletcher[/QUOTE]

Barrow didn't get a big contract and neither will Fletcher. I would be stunned if Fletcher got more than a $4M-$4.5M signing bonus. Assuming he has one great year left in the tank as a starter, could compete for the starting job in his second year, would be a backup in his 3rd year, and be cut by his 4th year, a $4M signing bonus is definately manageable.

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

yeah i hope so vause you know how the redskins get 7 years 35 million i have heard that so much with the redskins

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

The contacts the Redskins ink players to always look worse on paper than they actually are. The things to focus on are the years and signing bonus. The deals are always heavily backloaded so the players rarely see that money.

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

i know thatbut i am just tired of seeing redskins overpay free agents

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

[quote=#56fanatic;277637]that is real mature calling someone dense. I never questioned the success rate of a 1st round player vs a 6th round player. Obviously 1st rounders,2nd rounders are "predicted" to have better careers, 6th and 7th rounders are lucky to make the roster. My point was, they guys have never played in the NFL and nothing is 100% definate, that this player is going to be a stud. grow up and stop insulting people because they dont agree with you. AGAIN..and AGAIN..and AGAIN... LET ME SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME....I WILL TYPE IT BIG SO MAYBE YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER. I NEVER HAVE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT FLETCHER BEING A BAD PLAYER. IN FACT I HAVE SAID HE IS A GOOD PLAYER. IF WE SIGN HIM GOOD, IF WE DONT GOOD! I AM NOT HATING ON THE GUY. IF THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, SIGN HIM. I HAVE NEVER SAID NOT TO. I SAID EXHAUST ALL OTHER RESOURCES, IF THERE ARE NONE, THEN SIGN HIM. HELL I WILL BUY HIS JERSEY IF IT WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY. 2ND, NO I WOULD NOT SIGN LAVAR BACK AND PLAY HIM IN THE MIDDLE. NO I WOULD NOT SIGN LAVAR BACK AT ALL PROBABLY. HE IS NOT GOING TO BE HEALTHY, SO DONT WASTE THE MONEY.

Now, of the old players that have seemed to not work out. Bruce, Sanders, Carrier, George, wright. I am sure there may be a few here and there over the last 8 years I have left off, but again my point : we have not had much luck with signing aging veterans. Hell, not much luck at signing anyone lately. Which, goes back to keeping our picks and develping young players.

OUT!
Dude, seriously. grow up and stop insulting people. it is people like you that make these threads not that enjoyable. people enjoy debating their opinions and philosophies. When people start the name calling and how stupid blah blah blah, it really takes the fun out of it. right or wrong, its an opinion. the mods should take notice of people insulting other and put them on notice or something. it is really not needed here. If any of us here had any capability of running a team, we would be there. so dont put more weight on your ideas than any one elses. Your ideas go as far in the organization as anyone elses.[/quote]

wow, chill. first of all i didn't actually insult you, notice that if in there? it's there for a reason. you called out my post saying that i was wrong and intimating that 6th rounders have an EQUAL chance at success as 1st rounders, which, by the numbers, is completely untrue.

look, right here:
[quote=#56fanatic]In regards to the draft, drafting a guy in the 1st or 2nd round is just as much a crap shoot as drafting a guy in the 6th or 7th.[/quote]

i'm glad you can scold me for replying directly to what you actually posted and then say you never said it in the first place. i'd also like to see where i said my opinions were better than anyone else's.

what really makes these threads unenjoyable is people responding to things that were never said, or getting upset when someone points out a flaw in their arguement instead of rectifying it or re-stating their opinion for clarity.

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

"If you're so dense as to not see the difference in success as a whole, I can't help you, and there won't be many that can."


Above is what I responded to. that is the crap that I can't stand. calling people dense or stupid. Grow the f*ck up.

What I said, is that the draft in general is a crap shoot. You can draft a 1st rounder and they turn out to be a bust, just as much as a 6th rounder. How can you interpret anything I said as saying you are wrong. what did I say you are wrong about. Did "you are wrong get typed?" i dont believe so. if it did, put it here so I can see it.

I never started or paid attention to what you wrote until you started the dense thing. dude, I really could give a rats ass what people think out here. there opinions. not truths or matter of facts. If you are a genious on NFL and GM crap, then apply for a job with the skins. People are real f*cking brave on a message board.
Show me where I said you are wrong. show me where i critisized anything you posted, other than giving my opinion. I never did. post it, maybe my memory is going bad.

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

Looks like the Lions are also interested in Fletcher. We'll see how this plays out.

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

Take this one outside fellas.

That Guy, I believe you meant no harm, but the post did seem unnecessarily harsh.

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;277795]Looks like the Lions are also interested in Fletcher. We'll see how this plays out.[/QUOTE]

So, along with the Redskins front office, the Lions are interested in Fletcher too?

Hmm. This can't be good. Red flags anyone?

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;277795]Looks like the Lions are also interested in Fletcher. We'll see how this plays out.[/QUOTE]

If he's not originally from that area, I think he'd have to be crazy to jump aboard the Lions ship. However, should a winning team jump into the race, it might make him tougher to sign.

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

[quote=FRPLG;277361]Respectfully, you are clueless.

Year Team G Total Tkl Ast Sacks Int Yds Avg Lg TD Pass Def
1998 St. Louis Rams 16 28 25.0 3 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
1999 St. Louis Rams 16 90 66.0 24 3 0 0 0.0 0 0 2
2000 St. Louis Rams 16 132 105.0 27 5.5 4 33 8.2 12 0 4
2001 St. Louis Rams 16 116 89.0 27 4.5 2 18 9.0 18 0 3
2002 Buffalo Bills 16 147 97.0 50 3 0 0 0.0 0 0 2
2003 Buffalo Bills 16 133 96.0 37 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 4
2004 Buffalo Bills 16 142 92.0 50 3.5 0 0 0.0 0 0 3
2005 Buffalo Bills 16 157 104.0 53 4 1 20 20.0 20 0 2
2006 Buffalo Bills 16 146 104.0 42 2 4 30 7.5 17 1 7


Fletcher had arguably his best season of his career last year.

He was probably the best MLB in the league last year.[/quote]

Do you know who Brian Urlacher is? Even Zack the crack Thomas!!

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

[QUOTE=jdlea;277798]If he's not originally from that area, I think he'd have to be crazy to jump aboard the Lions ship. However, should a winning team jump into the race, it might make him tougher to sign.[/QUOTE]

We probably have an advantage over other teams insofar as Fletcher will not have to learn a new system. That tends to be a pretty significant issue for a lot of players. Moreover, not only does Fletcher know the system, he thrives in it.

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;277802]We probably have an advantage over other teams insofar as Fletcher will not have to learn a new system. That tends to be a pretty significant issue for a lot of players. Moreover, not only does Fletcher know the system, he thrives in it.[/quote]

This is probably far fetched, but I wonder if the front office was worried that Dale Lindsey's gruff attitude and reputation would make it tough to lure a free agent linebacker. If the Skins are targeting Fletcher and Greg Williams knows that Fletcher hates Lindsey's style of coaching, that could have factored in (obviously not the only reason).

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

flecther or marshall take ur pick cause that is what it looks like just move marshall to weak side where he played before pierce left

Re: WP: Redskins Targeting London Fletcher, Nate Clements
 

if we did get London Fletcher, do u think we would start Lemar or Rocky on the weakside????? I say probably Lemar and if either of the other 2 guys gets hurt then Lemar fills in for them and Rocky takes over for Lemar. I say any way it happens this upcoming season is Lemar's last in Washington, unless he plays amazing.