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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;524828]what punter and kicker?[/quote]

Dave Rayner.. he's been on the packers, lions, jets, bengals and I think a couple other teams in the past 5 years or so.. he's a kicker but has punted before

I don't know of any sole punter we've picked up

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zac atterberry is the punter picked we picked up. The only signing that will stick is probably the return guy. This Rayney guy seems pretty bad he doesn't look like much of an upgrade from suisham

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If anyone is wondering, Haynesworth reportedly wants around a $16-18 million signing bonus, and upwards of $35 million guaranteed (of which the signing bonus would be included)

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[quote=SmootSmack;525530]If anyone is wondering, Haynesworth reportedly wants around a $16-18 million signing bonus, and upwards of $35 million guaranteed (of which the signing bonus would be included)[/quote]
Let him get it somewhere else. This smells like a potential Stubby situation. Let's just slowly back away.....

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If they sign Haynesworth all it will do is draw Dana stubbingfield comparisons as the guys career dwindles down faster than JT's did here.

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[quote=gaudiomatt;525545]If they sign Haynesworth all it will do is draw Dana stubbingfield comparisons as the guys career dwindles down faster than JT's did here.[/quote]

I doubt this is going to happen, so don't worry about it. There are teams other teams like the Chiefs who have tons of cap space and will be able to offer Haynesworth the money he is looking for.

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yea it won't happen the only one that might is Jordan Gross. I don't think they can afford suggs. Amazing how the one year our three bigges needs could be filled in free agency we have abosolutely no money. maybe god just doesn't like dan snyder.

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[quote=gaudiomatt;525551]yea it won't happen the only one that might is Jordan Gross. I don't think they can afford suggs. Amazing how the one year our three bigges needs could be filled in free agency we have abosolutely no money. maybe god just doesn't like dan snyder.[/quote]

Well Snyder and the team is paying for their mismanagement of contracts and re-negotiations. I think they are learning though, and hopefully they are more careful in the future.

I would love for the team to get Gross, I think he could give the o-line a big boost, especially if we can draft a couple of quality young offensive guards. Although, just like Suggs, Haynesworth, and Peppers, Gross is going to command big money in the FA market.

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yup however they only sign free agents who either cost a ton or are just incredibly cheap underperformers who don't show up. So we're probably going Gross or not doing anything with the oline.

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[quote=gaudiomatt;525562]yup however they only sign free agents who either cost a ton or are just incredibly cheap underperformers who don't show up. So we're probably going Gross or not doing anything with the oline.[/quote]

Well we've gone one offseason of not doing any outright stupid signings (you could make a case for JT, but I think that's just bad luck with his injury). That last outright stupid signing I would say was Lloyd. I still think Gross is going to be expensive and the team won't be able to afford him. Some other team with a lot of cap money may get him.

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Panthers will most likely keep Gross and let Peppers walk

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alright I got our offseason plans right here:
A) Cut Jansen, Daniels, Thrash, Washington, Springs (unless he takes a paycut, which I doubt)
B) ask jason taylor to take a pay cut or be cut, don't resign kendall unless we need him, like an injury during the season, ask griffin to take a pay cut or be cut, don't resign gholston, and ask smoot to take a pay cut.
C) RESIGN DeAnglo hall, especially if Springs is cut, retires, etc.
D) Go after which ever player the panthers don't franchise
E) SIGN Max Starks T from the steelers (usually plays right tackle, and very well, but was a left tackle this year since marvel smith was injured, but he faired well on the left side)
F) do NOT give campbell a contract extension until next offseason
G) Asuming we'll get a lot of compensatory picks like last year hopefully we'll get another 3rd, 6th, and 7th(s) (HOPEFULLY, this is not definite) TRADE our 13th overall pick and our regular 3rd round pick to detroit for their 20th and 33rd (2nd round) overall picks. and our draft should look like this

1) Peria Jerry Ole Miss DT
2) Duke Robinson Oklahoma G
3 (Compensatory)) Brandon Williams DE Texas Tech (led big 12 in sacks with 13)
5) Gerald McRath Southern Miss OLB
6) Jarrett Dillard Rice WR (some say we need another wideout some don't, I say take him because he had school, conference, and college records his whole career and plays a lot bigger than he is, and has GREAT hands, a sleeper of sorts, and if he's not at this spot then get Ramses Barden of Cal Poly who is 6'6 and grabs/jumps for everything, can also make spectacular catches, and doesn't get injured a lot like Malcolm Kelly)
6 (Compensatory)) Joe Burnett UCF CB/RS (whether he ends up a good corner or not, he is a hell of a returner, an All American, and youtube sensation)
7(Compensatory)) Greg Isander WVU G
7(Compensatory)) Pat MacAffee WVU K

your thoughts....

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We need to keep our first rounders anymore. More picks is nice, but you really see a drop off in starting potential after the 2nd- 3rd round. How many low end picks really pan out? Not a very good percentage!!! Sure it happens, but the odds are not in your favor, not they way we have been drafting as of late.

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[quote=SmootSmack;525530]If anyone is wondering, Haynesworth reportedly wants around a $16-18 million signing bonus, and upwards of $35 million guaranteed (of which the signing bonus would be included)[/quote]

How much is that in Wendy's, whatever they sell things?

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[quote=SmootSmack;525530]If anyone is wondering, Haynesworth reportedly wants around a $16-18 million signing bonus, and upwards of $35 million guaranteed (of which the signing bonus would be included)[/quote]

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