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[quote=SBXVII;678295]I must be reading something wrong...... you say Shanahan drafted him, yet on Wiki it says he was drafted in 08. Shanahan was fired prior to the 08 draft, or am I incorrect?[/quote]

Shanahan coached the Broncos in the 2008-2009 season, Ryan Clady was drafted in the 2008 NFL Draft and played his first season in the '08-'09 season. So yes, however unlikely, it is possible for Mike Shanahan to draft a first-round Tackle.

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Shanahan drafted Clady.

Re: Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb
 

[quote=Ruhskins;678296]Shanahan coached the Broncos in the 2008-2009 season, Ryan Clady was drafted in the 2008 NFL Draft and played his first season in the '08-'09 season. So yes, however unlikely, it is possible for Mike Shanahan to draft a first-round Tackle.[/quote]

Yeah just saw that. Sorry 53. Shanahan was fired Dec. 08 which means he did draft Clady.

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The bad news is even after drafting a 1st round LT who only gave up half a sack in his first year the team still did miserable and the coach was fired.

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[quote=tryfuhl;678229]How much longer will he be there? How long can they keep Kolb happy not starting?

Sometimes you move on.[/quote]

he could play at a high level for several more years. so you trade a top qb in the prime of his career cause his back up isn't happy?? i've gotta see it happen before i believe it. i don't think mcnabb is going anywhere.

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[quote=SBXVII;678299]The bad news is even after drafting a 1st round LT who only gave up half a sack in his first year the team still did miserable and the coach was fired.[/quote]

that was cause the defense was terrible.

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[quote=SBXVII;678299]The bad news is even after drafting a 1st round LT who only gave up half a sack in his first year the team still did miserable and the coach was fired.[/quote]

I would gladly take a rookie tackle that only gives up half a sack in his first year.

Honestly, if we have had a QB like JaMarcus Russell or Derek "2-completions-in-one-game" Anderson, I'd be all over a QB at #4. I just feel a that a better use of our resources would be a trade down or a top tackle at #4.

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nevermind
edit: by the time my slowhands worked, many others had already chimed in...

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[quote=SBXVII;678298]Yeah just saw that. Sorry 53. Shanahan was fired Dec. 08 which means he did draft Clady.[/quote]

No problem. I understand Shanahan has a great blocking scheme and does a fine job with later round picks, I don't question that. But 1 or 2 great players on an o-line can make all the difference in the world. He saw how good a LT Clady was and took him....he was worth a first round pick. Even Shanahan thought so. I get a little nervous and breakout in sweat when people talk about only taking o-linemen in the later rounds. It sounds eerily familiar. :)

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[quote=skinsfan69;678301]that was cause the defense was terrible.[/quote]

No doubt about it, Clady held his own. You can't pin the losses on him.

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[quote=53Fan;678304]No problem. I understand Shanahan has a great blocking scheme and does a fine job with later round picks, I don't question that. But 1 or 2 great players on an o-line can make all the difference in the world. He saw how good a LT Clady was and took him....he was worth a first round pick. Even Shanahan thought so. I get a little nervous and breakout in sweat when people talk about only taking o-linemen in the later rounds. It sounds eerily familiar. :)[/quote]

I get nervous at the fact that we don't have a freaking starting Left Tackle! LOL.

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[quote=Ruhskins;678307]I get nervous at the fact that we don't have a freaking starting Left Tackle! LOL.[/quote]

At this point, I don't know if I'd want the QB job. :eek:

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;678303]nevermind
edit: by the time my slowhands worked, many others had already chimed in...[/quote]

That's what [B]she[/B] said.

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[quote=SBXVII;678299]The bad news is even after drafting a 1st round LT who only gave up half a sack in his first year the team still did miserable and the coach was fired.[/quote]

Not sure what your point is... Clady is one of the better LT's in the league. Clearly the Broncos had other issues which led to Shanahan's firing.

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[quote=53Fan;678272]I keep seeing this like Shanahan doesn't need talent on the o-line. Why did he draft Ryan Clady in the first round? That would be pretty stupid for a guy that can get the same level of play from a mid to late rounder wouldn't it?[/quote]

Hogs Haven recently posted this graphic:

2010 Pro Bowl - Offensive Line Rosters:
- Of the 15 OL - 9 were 1st rd picks - 5 of those were selected in the first seven picks.
- 5 of the seven Tackles were 1st rd picks (3 being top 4 picks)
- 5 of the 11 qb's (including reserves & alternates) were 1st rd picks.

2009 Pro Bowl - OffensiveLine Rosters:
- of the 16 OL - ten were 1st rd picks
- 6 of the 8 Tackles were 1st rd picks
- 4 of the 7 QB's were 1st rd picks.

History shows that L/T has become the new money position. Eight teams drafted an O/T in the first round last April, as many as five could go in the first round this year, possibly four in the first ten selections.

Quarterbacks may be considered cornerstones of franchises, R/B's provide punch...W/R make flashy plays, but the games guts is still rooted in the O/L. No R/B survives long without holes to run through....No W/R catches a pass if the QB dosen't have time to throw it.

History further shows that the likelyhood of drafting a bust at QB in the 1st round far outweighs that of an O/T.