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[quote=SirClintonPortis;733529]Hey, surely fans know more than coaches on opposing teams for about telegraphing plays and holding the ball too long?


[url=http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakland-raiders-forum-message-board/168926-campbell-makes-o-line-look-bad.html]Campbell makes O-line look bad. - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives![/url]
[url=http://www.sacbee.com/2010/09/14/3027106/raiders-troubles-included-nerves.html]Raiders' troubles included nerves, one player says - Sacramento Sports - Kings, 49ers, Raiders, High School Sports | Sacramento Bee[/url][/quote]

Oh man those posts bring back memories...

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;733620]And he went to Auburn, I don't see why we are talking about him still. H e doesn't play for us anymore and we don't play them this year unless its the super bowl.[/quote]

Yep Auburn, another piss poor SEC school. ;)

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[quote=Chico23231;733933]Oh man those posts bring back memories...[/quote]

Fascinating how two fan-bases have the exact same arguments. It is like friggin' Groundhog day.

That pretty much seals the age-old argument for me.

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In looking back on all the QB's we tried to acquire to replace Campbell I think that talent wise Cutler is much better. However after considering the fact that we came up with a franchise LT and pass rusher as well as McNabb it's hard to argue against the string of events that caused us to loose out on the Cutler sweepstakes.

Sanchez was another bullet not because of the cost, but more so because of the fact that he seems to suffer from Dilfer-itis. Though that might be a product of playing under Rex Ryan who ironically was on a Super Bowl winning team with Dilfer.

Anyway it would seem to me that had Cutler been here under Shanahan he would have been successful. However considering the cost of two guys that might end up being the best in franchise history at their respective positions it's hard not to breathe a sigh of relief.

The only proposed trade of the Cerrato era that might have worked out for us would have been Ochocinco. And I say that because instead of Kelly, Davis, Thomas (of which Kelly and Thomas have yet to prove to be worthy of their draft status) we would have been better off today with Ocho. On top of that the conditional 3rd round would have likely remained a conditional third rounder after seeing the year he had in 2008.

Anyway hindsight is 20/20.

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eventually we'll stop caring about Campbell

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[quote=tryfuhl;734059]eventually we'll stop caring about Campbell[/quote]

How long was the mourning period for Ramsey? I imagine that Campbell's will be slightly longer.

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hell I don't know.. I was on ES for that and don't recall

maybe in a few years we'll get a JasonCampbell like we have a Gus

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[quote=Chico23231;733935]Yep Auburn, another piss poor SEC school. ;)[/quote]

lol being a LSU fan I am with u there

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[quote=tryfuhl;734080]hell I don't know.. I was on ES for that and don't recall

maybe in a few years we'll get a JasonCampbell like we have a Gus[/quote]

:laughing2

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Im done w JC lets move on folks. Were 1-0 with #5

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;733497]And a predictable snap count.[/quote]

[quote=Dirtbag359;733827]You can't see it but I'm shedding a tear of joy from reading your post. Either I'm passing on knowledge or great minds simply think alike.[/quote]
Didn't want to comment on this before re-watching the game, but the Titans CLEARLY had a snap advantage on Campbell. Of course, the problem was amplified by 1) being on the road, and 2) Mario Henderson can't seem to leave on the snap no matter what the pace is.

Time to earn your paycheck, Hue Jackson.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;734057]In looking back on all the QB's we tried to acquire to replace Campbell I think that talent wise Cutler is much better. However after considering the fact that we came up with a franchise LT and pass rusher as well as McNabb it's hard to argue against the string of events that caused us to loose out on the Cutler sweepstakes.

Sanchez was another bullet not because of the cost, but more so because of the fact that he seems to suffer from Dilfer-itis. Though that might be a product of playing under Rex Ryan who ironically was on a Super Bowl winning team with Dilfer.

Anyway it would seem to me that had Cutler been here under Shanahan he would have been successful. However considering the cost of two guys that might end up being the best in franchise history at their respective positions it's hard not to breathe a sigh of relief.

[B]The only proposed trade of the Cerrato era that might have worked out for us would have been Ochocinco.[/B] And I say that because instead of Kelly, Davis, Thomas (of which Kelly and Thomas have yet to prove to be worthy of their draft status) we would have been better off today with Ocho. On top of that the conditional 3rd round would have likely remained a conditional third rounder after seeing the year he had in 2008.

Anyway hindsight is 20/20.[/quote]
It's an interesting realization considering that that trade rumor was so universally despised compared to the others, and while the whole process reeks of outcome bias, I'd have to agree with you. We would have done more with Ochocinco here than either Thomas or Davis. And I like Davis.

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[quote=GTripp0012;734105]It's an interesting realization considering that that trade rumor was so universally despised compared to the others, and while the whole process reeks of outcome bias, I'd have to agree with you. We would have done more with Ochocinco here than either Thomas or Davis. And I like Davis.[/quote]

True, if you compare direct production at the position. Of course Ochocinco in 2008 means no Orakpo in 2009. Or whomever we would've selected at the spot around 20th, ha j/k

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[quote=Ruhskins;733477]He DOES have a SB ring. :cool-smil[/quote]

So you're saying we should bring back Brunell!? :eek:

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[quote=DynamiteRave;734122]So you're saying we should bring back Brunell!? :eek:[/quote]

I was talking about Chase Daniel.