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[quote=skinsguy;764046]First of all, don't bag on VA Tech. I'm a big fan and have had friends and family graduate from there. Secondly, it's up to the safeties to be in position and much to often this year, they have been out of position.[/quote]

Oh come on, it's too fun, but I wanted to get a rise out of someone else, not you :).

As far as the safeties, yes they are sometimes, a lot of the times, but you can't deny that Hall gives the WR's up way too soon.

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[quote=Paintrain;764005]I didn't say he sucks, I said he's a good cover corner-but he's not great and doesn't do anything special. If Fletcher, Carter, Rak, Daniels, LoAx or someone else on the defense whose level of play justified their level of talk said something like this I wouldn't care but Los has diarrhea of the mouth and he's not good enough at his WHOLE job to talk that much.

Sure, he'll get a decent contract on the open market, under 30, good player on the man, mostly healthy [B]but he's a headache and a prima donna.[/quote][/B]

[B]Are you serious?? I think you just described Albert Haynesworth. [/B]

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[quote=Chico23231;764016]If your gonna bring up tackling, point the finger to the guy behind him...Kareem Moore. Dude needs to seriously tighten up...not only the whiffs but in general technique. You need your last line of d to know how to wrap up.[/quote]

Moore can't tackle either. He might be worse than Hall.

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[quote=InsaneBoost;764026]Hall is terrible and I'm tired of people acting like he's God because he had 4 picks in one game against the suck Jay Cutler.[/quote]

Terrible?? C'mon. He's not a strong man cover guy but he's got great ball skills. There is a lot worse out there.

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[quote=44ever;764014]Very True.

"watching the Redskins corners week after week is a roller coaster ride. While Hall is more of a playmaker, he tends to be streaky in coverage while Rogers is a reliable cover man. [U]Maybe the two could combine forces and become a single shutdown corner[/U]; Hall offering his big play skills to the equation and Rogers contributing his abilities in coverage"

[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2010/10/21/1766808/deangelo-hall-carlos-rogers-interceptions-redskins-secondary]Crunching Numbers On DeAngelo Hall And Carlos Rogers - Half Smokes - SB Nation DC[/url][/quote]Problem is, if you try to put 10 other players on the field, they're going to flag you for too many men.

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[quote=skinsfan69;764061]Terrible?? C'mon. He's not a strong man cover guy but he's got great ball skills. There is a lot worse out there.[/quote]

Okay okay he's not terrible, but he's not good either.

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[quote=skinsguy;764044]The only complaints I have had with our secondary is the amount of cushion they allow some receivers. Of course, I'm not sure if that is the design of the defensive secondary, or if that is personal preference with the DBs. Usually, neither Rogers nor Hall gets beat deep. I think what happens when you see our secondary getting picked apart is the lack of help from our safeties. Much to often this year, our safeties have been out of position which causes blown coverages. So, I can't say I have been too upset with Rogers or Hall. Would love for Rogers to have more INTs, but I just don't believe that will ever happen. I'm just happy he has the talent to break up passes when they're thrown his way.[/quote]

I chose to quote you over Insane cause you were hitting the whole secondary...

My questions to both of you is .... is there any possible way that, that was Haslett's game plan? Keep the game in front of them. Insane brought up a good point about Hall letting the WR run past him but if he's supposed to be in a zone and sitting there then it would be Landry's job to pick up the WR which didn't happen.

My issue is we have corners that are better at man-to-man and we are making them sit 5-10 yrds off the WR. Even if it's a zone package I feel we should be playing our CB's on the line jamming the WR to throw off the timing of the route and then fall into their zone package. Instead the CB's let the WR's get up to speed and juke them into a wrong move and their wide open.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;764037]Just asking how you had Minny and the Bears winning the division?[/quote]

My mistake..
I had bears winning division and Minny getting wild card...

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I have an idea Rogers...shut your damn trap and win some games....you get millions to do so while the fans pay a ton of money to watch you win....not saying booing is ever ok...but it is not the role of the entertainer to question the level of applause they get...if the applause is weak...it is likely that the performance was weak....OWN IT, JACK!

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[quote=rbanerjee23;763969]So the players aren't allowed to do anything but think about the game? They aren't allowed to have private discussions about the fans, their concerns, their thoughts on the season, their careers etc.?[/quote]

Yeah they're allowed to, but how long has Rogers had the interception dropsies? Him talking about this with the media and discussing this with other players - goes to show you where his focus and priorities are.

You can talk about anything you want, but if you want to improve on your obvious faults that can mean winning and losing the game, then I would think you talk about and work on that.

And his way of discussing the fans is a subtle way of throwing us under the bus.

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[quote=skinsfan69;764057][/B]

[B]Are you serious?? I think you just described Albert Haynesworth. [/B][/quote]
Post season 2008, Rogers wants to be traded.. Post season 2009, Rogers 'I'm outta here!', offseason 2010, Rogers skips some OTA until he talks to Shanny and gets his ego stroked.. Similar to Fat Al, no?

Look, I won't burn the house down if he re-signs with us. He's a decent/good corner but his mouth outweighs his talent, that's all I am saying. When healthy and playing well I will take Rogers-Hall-Buchanon over any other top 3 CB in the division because they give a good mix of good coverage and playmaking ability.

I'd just be more of a fan of his if he'd shut up as much as he shuts down. Oh yeah, and catch balls that a third grade girl could catch.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;764030]Are you talking about my prediction?

I had 14-2...lol
not 12-4

I was so-so on my predictions this season so far..
I was wrong about the Eagles being bad
Minny winning div.
Redskins going 14-2[/quote]


LOL. You predicted this team would go 14-2 and then talk about talent like you have a full grasp on it? What made you think the talent level changed from a 4-12 team to a 14-2 team? I think this all goes back to my statement earlier about Redskin fans over estimating the talent on our team. It can be hilarious or sad depending on how you look at it.

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... and let's not get this twisted - he's not just shooting the breeze with these comments. He discussed this with his teammates and thought enough about it to bring it up to the media.

Rogers talked about the fans like it was a big reason they did not do well. Here's another quote:
"I think we play better away because the fans are quieter."

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People are making way too many assumptions here. He answers one question about the fans and comments that he's mentioned it to his teammates and suddenly this shows where his priorities are?

You know what else Rogers talked about yesterday? He talked about being frustrated the D is ranked last, his hamstring injury, needing to not think playoffs and just take it one game at a time,

So you know what I'm just going to focus on the fact that he mentioned he's upset the D is ranked last and say why the hell are you talking about it jackass?! Get out there and do something about it, where are your damn priorities you ra-tard!

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[quote=SmootSmack;764161]People are making way too many assumptions here. He answers one question about the fans and comments that he's mentioned it to his teammates and suddenly this shows where his priorities are?

You know what else Rogers talked about yesterday? He talked about being frustrated the D is ranked last, his hamstring injury, needing to not think playoffs and just take it one game at a time,

So you know what I'm just going to focus on the fact that he mentioned he's upset the D is ranked last and say why the hell are you talking about it jackass?! Get out there and do something about it, where are your damn priorities you ra-tard![/quote]

This.