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saden1 03-04-2011 11:38 AM

Re: REAL football news - Skins sign Atogwe!
 
For a team that wants to get younger a 30 yo safety isn't going to do it. Having said that I hope he is as good as you lot hope and his best years are ahead of him. I wouldn't mind seeing him and Moore out there on the field along with Landry.

Jontrem 03-04-2011 11:38 AM

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There is a difference in going to the probowl and being an allpro though. I don't think Taylor was ever an allpro, however he only played 3 1/2 seasons

Monkeydad 03-04-2011 11:41 AM

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[quote=saden1;787576]For a team that wants to get younger a 30 yo safety isn't going to do it. Having said that I hope he is as good as you lot hope and his best years are ahead of him.[B] I wouldn't mind seeing him and Moore out there on the field along with Landry.[/B][/quote]

What, a strong safety, free safety and....middle safety? :D

I guess we're switching to the 3-3 defense this year. Or, are we just cutting Carlos and letting D-Hall be the only CB on the field?

MTK 03-04-2011 11:42 AM

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[quote=saden1;787576]For a team that wants to get younger a 30 yo safety isn't going to do it. Having said that I hope he is as good as you lot hope and his best years are ahead of him. I wouldn't mind seeing him and Moore out there on the field along with Landry.[/quote]

You can still get younger while adding vets. He fills an immediate need. We're simply not going to be able to fill all our needs through the draft alone. Free agency is part of the puzzle too.

NC_Skins 03-04-2011 11:45 AM

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[quote=firstdown;787573]How could a redskin fan forget ST was in the PB. Probably the hardest hit in a PB in the past 15 yrs.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGsutVPOXw"]YouTube - Sean Taylor Pro Bowl Hit[/url][/quote]

I didn't forget. I said "All-Pro"...not pro-bowl. There is a huge difference in making the pro-bowl and the All-Pro team.


also, I remember that hit. It amazes me each time I see it. That's how the pro-bowl should be played and it was good to see at least one player bringing the passion.

NC_Skins 03-04-2011 11:46 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;787580]You can still get younger while adding vets. He fills an immediate need. We're simply not going to be able to fill all our needs through the draft alone. Free agency is part of the puzzle too.[/quote]

The great thing about this is no draft picks are being used to acquire this player. I have more issues with us trading than I do with FA signings.

Monkeydad 03-04-2011 11:47 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;787580]You can still get younger while adding vets. He fills an immediate need. We're simply not going to be able to fill all our needs through the draft alone. Free agency is part of the puzzle too.[/quote]

Agreed, when our young players aren't working out or just aren't starter-quality (like Kareem Moore and a couple of unnamed WRs), it is more important to put someone competent in their place.

"Going younger" is an overrated catch phrase. Sure, we don't want to load up with vets about to retire like we did in the Bruce Smith/Deion Sanders experiment, but the difference in average age from the youngest to the oldest teams in the league is less than 2 years (it was last time I saw the stat).

There are key positions you want longevity out of, like left tackle...but overall, ability is more important than age.

SkinzWin 03-04-2011 12:34 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;787586]The great thing about this is no draft picks are being used to acquire this player. I have more issues with us trading than I do with FA signings.[/quote]

Amen to that. Especially since Atogwe is only 2 years removed from being the #6 overall "INT catcher" (very technical term) followed by the #2 in that category in 07 and 08. I don't see why anyone would complain to a FA signing as long as they dont get an @$$load of guaranteed money like Haynesworthless. I love this move. If we could get Barrett Ruud now I would be bouncing off the walls. MSW wouldn't be too bad either, I guess.... :)

CRedskinsRule 03-04-2011 01:11 PM

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Interesting bit:

[QUOTE]SalaryCap101 J.I. Halsell
by kjohnsoncsn
Atogwe gets no $ prior to a potential lockout. His 6.5M roster bonus would be earned after a lockout at the commencement of '11 league year.
1 hour ago [/QUOTE]
BA sure seems to be a top notch contract guy.

mlmdub130 03-04-2011 01:16 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;787610]Interesting bit:


BA sure seems to be a top notch contract guy.[/quote]

i know right? the fact the oj came here, visited, left, time passed, and then we made the deal says something to me. i do really think bruce allen is the right guy for the job no question about it.

freddyg12 03-04-2011 01:49 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;787610]Interesting bit:


BA sure seems to be a top notch contract guy.[/quote]

amen to that. He's doing his part, now we just need Shanny to bat above .600 or so w/player evaluation for the draft & FA. For this team to win now or next year he'll have to bat closer to .800

saden1 03-04-2011 01:50 PM

Re: REAL football news - Skins sign Atogwe!
 
[quote=Monkeydad;787579]What, a strong safety, free safety and....middle safety? :D

I guess we're switching to the 3-3 defense this year. Or, are we just cutting Carlos and letting D-Hall be the only CB on the field?[/quote]

No, they will all be on the field in certain situations. We face the eagle's twice and you can bet your ass Landry will be shadowing Vick while Moore/Atogwe play SS/FS. Also, you will see Moore on the field covering TEs against the Pats and Cowboys. There will be plenty of opportunities for all 3 to be on the field!

juskins 03-04-2011 03:46 PM

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Is the team keeping Kemo or do they consider him a non-factor and letting him walk? Just thinking about his injury - it might take a solid season (2010) playing on his ankle to accelerate full recovery. Resting it could make all the difference for 2011 season.

jacobyfan 03-04-2011 03:49 PM

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I like what I see in the highlights. This guy isn't just playing on instinct. Most of those ints are from a combination of route recognition and watching the QB. Very likely they're coming from film study as well. Some of these look like a quick diagnosis and a very easy pick because he knows where the ball is going.

Worst case scenario (given that he's healthy) is that we end up with a good number of picks/fumbles and a good number of blown coverages a la D. Hall.

Best case scenario is that we just signed another London Fletcher type to play free safety.

I'll concur that this is a reasonable contract for this guy and filling holes with FAs that can still play that don't cost us picks is fine by me.

SmootSmack 03-04-2011 04:03 PM

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[quote=juskins;787631]Is the team keeping Kemo or do they consider him a non-factor and letting him walk? Just thinking about his injury - it might take a solid season (2010) playing on his ankle to accelerate full recovery. Resting it could make all the difference for 2011 season.[/quote]

He was supposed to be let go yesterday I thought. Not sure why he wasn't. I don't think he's in their plans though


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