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RedskinRat 04-22-2013 09:18 PM

Well played, HG28!

Giantone 04-23-2013 04:10 AM

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[quote=HailGreen28;1004790]


It's a pity these kind of example never make as much press as the other stories. Giantone, unlike your example, all these are as recent as last month. So while you post quotes asking gun owners to justify gun rights, to the victims of [U]outlaws with guns[/U], I'll ask you to explain why we should have gun control, so [U]law abiding people[/U] can be robbed, beaten, and murdered. I think you have a lot harder explaining to do, than me.

Giantone, if you meant that your posted quote was "999%" wrong, I'll agree with you.[/quote]


I agree every gun owner is a "law abiding citizen" , until he kills someone , then he becomes a nut job and doesn't represent "true" gun owners. Thing is you just made my case for me so thank you ,you with out knowing it (ironic isn't it) just proved why gun control laws are needed.
What you by passed in the article and all NRA gun commandos do is that no one is taking any guns, none, nada but they are trying to do is make gun ownership more responsible and safer and the fact that the NRA is against that ,well no wonder they are called "gun nuts".

Alvin Walton 04-23-2013 07:13 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1004837]I agree [COLOR="Red"]every gun owner is a "law abiding citizen" , until he kills someone , then he becomes a nut job[/COLOR] and doesn't represent "true" gun owners. Thing is you just made my case for me so thank you ,you with out knowing it (ironic isn't it) just proved why gun control laws are needed.
What you by passed in the article and all NRA gun commandos do is that no one is taking any guns, none, nada but they are trying to do is make gun ownership more responsible and safer and the fact that the NRA is against that ,well no wonder they are called "gun nuts".[/quote]

Hard to take anything you say seriously when you post garbage like that.....
Your debating skills suck red baboon ass.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-23-2013 09:45 AM

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I liked Jon Stewarts solution. The founding fathers never anticipated automatic weapons when they included the right to bear arms. Stop making handguns and let everyone have as many muskets as they want.

RedskinRat 04-23-2013 01:02 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1004865]I liked Jon Stewarts solution. The founding fathers never anticipated automatic weapons when they included the right to bear arms. Stop making handguns and let everyone have as many muskets as they want.[/quote]

Jon Stewart is an amusing comic, his political bias makes him a predictable and dull commentator on certain topics, gun control being one. He should just stick to comedy.

BigHairedAristocrat 04-23-2013 02:20 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;1004900]Jon Stewart is an amusing comic, his political bias makes him a predictable and dull commentator on certain topics, gun control being one. He should just stick to comedy.[/quote]

The gun debate IS comedy. People on both sides use outrageous arguments to support their position and criticize their opponents'.

RedskinRat 04-23-2013 02:31 PM

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I find the arguments pathetic. When Law Enforcement can get to my point of need at or before the person threatening my life, or the life of someone I care about, then I'll happily lock up or give up my firearms.

It won't happen in my lifetime.

Giantone 04-23-2013 03:40 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1004838]Hard to take anything you say seriously when you post garbage like that.....
Your debating skills suck red baboon ass.[/quote]


Class ,all the way.:rolleyes:

Giantone 04-23-2013 03:43 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1004865]I liked Jon Stewarts solution. The founding fathers never anticipated automatic weapons when they included the right to bear arms. Stop making handguns and let everyone have as many muskets as they want.[/quote]


I agree, Jon nails it!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13HdTsW_E0]jon stewart on gun control - YouTube[/ame]

RedskinRat 04-23-2013 04:05 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1004929]I agree, Jon nails it![/quote]

You probably agree with his stance on Unicorn Leash Laws, don't you?

HailGreen28 04-23-2013 04:41 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1004865]I liked Jon Stewarts solution. The founding fathers never anticipated automatic weapons when they included the right to bear arms. Stop making handguns and let everyone have as many muskets as they want.[/quote]By that logic, no speech on the telephone, cell, fax, radio, tv, and internet is safe from censorship and prosecution either, since the founding fathers never anticipated those mediums of speech when they wrote the first amendment.

I don't agree with that "solution" either.

Giantone 04-23-2013 04:55 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=RedskinRat;1004931]You probably agree with his stance on Unicorn Leash Laws, don't you?[/quote]


Nope,see this is a trick question ,everyone knows all the hunters shot and killed all the Unicorns .:doh:

Alvin Walton 04-23-2013 05:00 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
About the millionth time I heard the "founding fathers didnt predict this, didnt predict that" argument.
lame lame lame
The 2nd amendment is there to prevent a dictatorship or monarchy from popping back up.
Working as intended!

CRedskinsRule 04-23-2013 05:07 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1004943]About the millionth time I heard the "founding fathers didnt predict this, didnt predict that" argument.
lame lame lame
The 2nd amendment is there to prevent a dictatorship or monarchy from popping back up.
Working as intended![/quote]

In fact the 2nd Amendment, for the purpose it was written(prevention of tyrannical governments), would say that the militia (and hence general population) ought to have the ability to gather and maintain weapons equal to what the government might be able to bring against you. Obviously we no longer see that as a real possibility. (Unless Bill Gates is squirreling away a few F22's somewhere)

HailGreen28 04-23-2013 05:11 PM

Re: Pro-gun article
 
[quote=Giantone;1004837]I agree every gun owner is a "law abiding citizen" , until he kills someone , then he becomes a nut job and doesn't represent "true" gun owners. Thing is you just made my case for me so thank you ,you with out knowing it (ironic isn't it) just proved why gun control laws are needed.
What you by passed in the article and all NRA gun commandos do is that no one is taking any guns, none, nada but they are trying to do is make gun ownership more responsible and safer and the fact that the NRA is against that ,well no wonder they are called "gun nuts".[/quote]Giantone, that "babbling incoherently" thing you were doing earlier, you're doing it again.

Show me where I made any distinction of "true" gunowners.

[quote=Giantone;1004837]What you by passed in the article and all NRA gun commandos do is that no one is taking any guns, none, nada but they are trying to do is make gun ownership more responsible and safer and the fact that the NRA is against that ,well no wonder they are called "gun nuts".[/quote]Another lie on your part, giantone.

First off, the "assault weapons ban" Obama promoted that just failed in the Senate would have taken some guns. [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/24/politics/feinstein-bill-details/index.html"]What's in Feinstein's gun bill[/URL]

Second, the NRA and other organizations actually do work to make gun ownership more responsible and safer. So I don't think you really know what "safer" and "more responsible" are unless those words = "ban" to you.

[URL="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nra+gun+safety+classes"]Here, let me Google that for you.[/URL]

[URL="http://politix.topix.com/homepage/4376-mo-bill-would-require-first-graders-to-take-nra-gun-safety-class"]Mo. Bill Would Require First Graders to Take NRA Gun Safety Class
The program tells kids what to do if they find a gun[/URL]
[IMG]http://politix.topix.com/img/VT1RPJLVJQD4OGD6-rszw514[/IMG]


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