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[quote=NC_Skins;1016987]Like I said, so did Sanchez. What are we going to be saying when his regular season stats aren't good enough to carry the team into the playoffs? I suspect that'll be happening this year.


Granted, I realize he's a much better QB than Sanchez in the regular season, just will people be saying the same once they stop missing the playoffs?[/quote]

Sanchez was never very good to begin with, Flacco has been very solid in the regular season and great in the playoffs. Not sure I really understand the comparison. Don't you think 5 playoff appearances in a row and a SB win buys Flacco some credit for a while? What else does the guy have to do?

I think most fans would be elated if Griffin puts up a similar run.

Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1016987]Like I said, so did Sanchez. What are we going to be saying when his regular season stats aren't good enough to carry the team into the playoffs? I suspect that'll be happening this year.


Granted, I realize he's a much better QB than Sanchez in the regular season, just will people be saying the same once they stop missing the playoffs?[/quote]

What is your deal with Joe Flacco? He's started every game for the Ravens since being drafted and they've been a playoff team every single year he's taken over. He brings stability and he can make all the throws. Sanchez is not in the same league as Flacco, and I don't care what the stats say. He doesn't play in a wide open offense so his stats probably will never be great. But he's a pretty damn good Qb.

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Joe Flacco is now 7-4 in the postseason with five road wins, tied for all-time best with Eli Manning and Roger Staubach. In his past six playoff games (four on the road) he has thrown 12 touchdown passes to just two interceptions.
Comparing to Sanchez is crazy.

Ravens still have a good offensive line and a good RB.
Ravens might not make it back to the Super Bowl, but teams that make it 2 years in a row is rare these days.

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[quote=mooby;1016973]Measurements won't matter if he can't catch, or run the right route, or even block.[/quote]

I have a bunch of Eagles fans as friends and family ( I know I know but they Re great people ). The word on this guys so far is very positive from the laymans who have been to camp. So tAke that as you will

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[quote=NC_Skins;1016983]Well, I guess Sanchez was a proven QB eh? Will you be saying the same thing once Flacco starts missing the playoffs?[/quote]


Come on NC you know comparing Sanchez to Flacco is not even comparable. The Jets really made those two playoff runs despite Sanchez.

Sanchez has more ints than tds in his career. He's rex grossman

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1016996]Sanchez has more ints than tds in his career. He's rex grossman[/quote]

Not sure who that is more of an insult to, Grossman or Sanchez.

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[quote=Skinzman;1016999]Not sure who that is more of an insult to, Grossman or Sanchez.[/quote]

Probably Grossman, even he is better than Sanchez. I would take him over Sanchez in a heartbeat.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1016994]Come on NC you know comparing Sanchez to Flacco is not even comparable. The Jets really made those two playoff runs despite Sanchez.[/quote]


[quote=Defensewins;1016991]Joe Flacco is now 7-4 in the postseason with five road wins, tied for all-time best with Eli Manning and Roger Staubach. In his past six playoff games (four on the road) he has thrown 12 touchdown passes to just two interceptions.
Comparing to Sanchez is crazy. [/quote]

[quote=skinsfan69;1016989]What is your deal with Joe Flacco? He's started every game for the Ravens since being drafted and they've been a playoff team every single year he's taken over. He brings stability and he can make all the throws. Sanchez is not in the same league as Flacco, and I don't care what the stats say. He doesn't play in a wide open offense so his stats probably will never be great. But he's a pretty damn good Qb.[/quote]



[quote=NC_Skins;1016987]Granted, I realize he's a much better QB than Sanchez in the regular season, just will people be saying the same once they stop missing the playoffs?[/quote]

I think you all missed exactly what I said. Othewise, you wouldn't be saying anything about comparing Flacco with Sanchez. I think I acknowledged Flacco is a much better QB. However, hist stats are average at best in the regular season, and YOU all keep harping about the post season. There is more to the game than just the post season. I understand many of you put a heavy weight on it, but it's laughable to do so. See Giantone's Eli is better than Peyton statement for a good example.

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SancMa00/gamelog/post/]Mark Sanchez Playoffs Game Log - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

Is this guy a good QB because his record is great in the playoffs and so are his stats? Hardly.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1016987]Like I said, so did Sanchez. What are we going to be saying when his regular season stats aren't good enough to carry the team into the playoffs? I suspect that'll be happening this year.


Granted, I realize he's a much better QB than Sanchez in the regular season, just will people be saying the same once they stop missing the playoffs?[/quote]

Do you think this year will mark a run of endless playoff-less seasons for Flacco and the Ravens?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1017002]Do you think this year will mark a run of endless playoff-less seasons for Flacco and the Ravens?[/quote]

I think they miss the playoffs this year. I thought last year was the last year of their window to consistently contend for a championship. They almost blew it getting into the playoffs. A run of missed playoffs? I think that depends on how well they draft the next year or so. Their defense is nothing like it used to be, and Flacco is really too inconsistent to carry the team. One minute, the guy looks like he's a elite QB in the league, the next minute he's blowing it against a shitty team like the Jaguars. Way too inconsistent for my liking, and losing talent isn't going to help them any. The one thing that helps them is that Pittsburgh is on its way down as well, and the Browns are.....the Browns.

I don't see Baltimore in the playoffs either. They lost 10 starters from last years team, that's going to be very hard and Pittsburgh won't be as bad and also Cincinnati is very good.

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I think the Ravens make the playoffs this year...says the guy who had them in the Super Bowl last year (or earlier this year if you insist)

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[quote=NC_Skins;1017004]I think they miss the playoffs this year. A run of missed playoffs?[B] I think that depends on how well they draft the next year or so. Their defense is nothing like it used to be,[/B] and Flacco is really too inconsistent to carry the team. One minute, the guy looks like he's a elite QB in the league, the next minute he's blowing it against a shitty team like the Jaguars. Way too inconsistent for my liking, and losing talent isn't going to help them any. The one thing that helps them is that Pittsburgh is on its way down as well, and the Browns are.....the Browns.[/quote]

You're doubting one of the best run franchises in the NFL. And IMO, they got better on Defense. Ed Reed isn't the same disruptive force he used to be. Matt Elam is a rookie but I thought he was hands down the best safety in the draft. I think he'll be as good, if not better, than Ed Reed was last year. MLB, yeah they lost Ray Lewis, but he had strictly become the voice of the team as opposed to the great player (and voice) he used to be (aka he slowed down and showed his age and became a liability in coverage, also got injured more). So they replaced him with young Fast and great coverage man Arthur Brown. On the field, they upgraded that position. Off the field, they didn't upgrade, but honestly no one would be an upgrade over Ray. And they got Ladarius Webb (who is a top 3 CB in the NFL when healthy) back from injury. They replaced Bernard Pollard with Michael Huff who is much better in coverage than Pollard was (injuring patriots though, he is not as good as him in that category).

And I haven't even mentioned that they got Dumervil to rush the passer, who right now, is a better pass rusher than Suggs, Upshaw, and the prior starter Paul Kruger.

I can see why you doubt Flacco for losing to a team like the Jaguars (whom they lost to 2 years ago not last year; you're probably thinking of the Chiefs game which they won 9-6), but even the elite QBs will get tested by very bad, losing teams. Hell Tom Brady got beat by Arizona ( and tested by Jacksonville last year; ditto Aaron Rodgers who got out played by Blaine Gabbert), and Drew Brees got beat by the Chiefs. I'd consider all those QBs elite.

They'll always have tough games against the Steelers, because that is their Redskins-Cowboys rivalry (no matter how good or bad the teams are, they always play each other close), and the Bengals are a very good team on the rise, but the Ravens are still the best team in the division with all their recent addtions and subtractions they've had. Sure they've lost Boldin--its a big loss-- but they draft well. One of their guys will step up. Sure they've lost Pitta for the year, but people don't realize that he and Ed Dickson would go back and forth in terms of starting; and Dickson is more atheltic than Pitta. They're OL will be better and they have a 1-2 punch in the ground game with Pierce and Rice.

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They miss the playoffs. Elam will not be Ed Reed right away if at all, Webb is coming off 2 major knee surgeries so who to say that he will even be the same, there left tackle can't even practice because he is over weight, Dumervill had 11 sacks last year but only 4 came at critcal times and Ed Dickson is no Pitta. Also I think they brought in way to many free agents at one time to build any chemistry. Time will tell but I think it's the Bengals division this year.