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[quote=JoeRedskin;1105192]The words "Mike Shanahan" and "humility" are words that simply don't belong in the same sentence unless accompanied by "complete lack thereof."

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This and then some.

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I love how everyone still kills MS here. Like he was the only problem over in Ashburn. I think we can now see Allen, Snyder and Griffin were all MAJOR parts of the problem too. MS got tired of the sense of entitlement Griffin had and leaked it to the media. Gruden comes in, sees what's going on and says F it, and called Griffin out on it right to the media. Doesn't care who he pisses off. That was a big F u to Snyder. The trade has blown up in their faces cause Griffin stinks, we're short on talent partly because of the trade, and Bruce Allen's terrible FA selections. Now that we're at a all time low, SM has to come in and clean up this mess. It took Snyder 16 YEARS to hire a competent personnel man. MS wasn't the problem here. Snyder and Allen were.

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MS was a part of the problem. As was Griffin. As was Allen. As was Snyder. The way MS handled the last 6 games of the 2013 season was the low point for me. This year, as bad as it was, was all about shaking out the crud MS left behind.

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[quote=Mattyk;1105180]Kinda funny the best Mike can do now is coordinator.

Maybe his time here did leave him a little toxic after all.[/quote]

MS is in his mid 60's? No organization is looking to hire someone his age. I think is says he still has respect around the league.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1105237]MS was a part of the problem. As was Griffin. As was Allen. As was Snyder. The way MS handled the last 6 games of the 2013 season was the low point for me. This year, as bad as it was, was all about shaking out the crud MS left behind.[/quote]

I hope you are right. Even though they garnered one more win than last season. We played an easier schedule than Shanny's last year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1105238]MS is in his mid 60's? No organization is looking to hire someone his age. I think is says he still has respect around the league.[/quote]

He's 62. John Fox is 59 and age doesn't seem to be an issue with him.

Sure Shanny still has some respect, just not enough to get him a HC job at this point.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1105234]I love how everyone still kills MS here. Like he was the only problem over in Ashburn. I think we can now see Allen, Snyder and Griffin were all MAJOR parts of the problem too. MS got tired of the sense of entitlement Griffin had and leaked it to the media. Gruden comes in, sees what's going on and says F it, and called Griffin out on it right to the media. Doesn't care who he pisses off. That was a big F u to Snyder. The trade has blown up in their faces cause Griffin stinks, we're short on talent partly because of the trade, and Bruce Allen's terrible FA selections. Now that we're at a all time low, SM has to come in and clean up this mess. It took Snyder 16 YEARS to hire a competent personnel man. MS wasn't the problem here. Snyder and Allen were.[/quote]

I agree with almost all that you said.

But Mike Shanahan also pooped all over the organization - and fans, too, he pooped on us - on the way out the door. Such petty, spiteful, unprofessional behavior was uncalled for. He may have been in a no-win situation but he handled it especially poorly.

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[quote=Lotus;1105244]I agree with almost all that you said.

But Mike Shanahan also pooped all over the organization - and fans, too, he pooped on us - on the way out the door. Such petty, spiteful, unprofessional behavior was uncalled for. He may have been in a no-win situation but he handled it especially poorly.[/quote]

I agree, he shit on everyone. But had this been a stable NFL franchise, he's not going to do what he did. MS does not come off as a bad guy. He turned into that partly because of the environment he was in. Look what they did to Jim Zorn? Lol.

I've been ( and I'm sure some here as well ) in that same situation working for a terrible company. They shit on you so you do the same on your way out the door.

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[quote=Mattyk;1105242]He's 62. John Fox is 59 and age doesn't seem to be an issue with him.

Sure Shanny still has some respect, just not enough to get him a HC job at this point.[/quote]

Yeah I think Fox got that job mostly to fix their terrible defense. It will be interesting to see who he brings in to work with Cutler. Maybe Kyle gets a chance there.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1105247]I agree, he shit on everyone. But had this been a stable NFL franchise, he's not going to do what he did. MS does not come off as a bad guy. He turned into that partly because of the environment he was in. Look what they did to Jim Zorn? Lol.

I've been ( and I'm sure some here as well ) in that same situation working for a terrible company. They shit on you so you do the same on your way out the door.[/quote]

I've been in that situation and didn't poop on anyone, as the poop inevitably would hit the innocent (as Shanahan's poop landed on you and I).

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Kyle to be Atlanta oc

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1105385]Kyle to be Atlanta oc[/quote]

Taking him as far as way as possible from the Browns/Johnny Douchebag sinking ship.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1105234]I love how everyone still kills MS here. Like he was the only problem over in Ashburn. I think we can now see Allen, Snyder and Griffin were all MAJOR parts of the problem too. MS got tired of the sense of entitlement Griffin had and leaked it to the media. Gruden comes in, sees what's going on and says F it, and called Griffin out on it right to the media. Doesn't care who he pisses off. That was a big F u to Snyder. The trade has blown up in their faces cause Griffin stinks, we're short on talent partly because of the trade, and Bruce Allen's terrible FA selections. Now that we're at a all time low, SM has to come in and clean up this mess. It took Snyder 16 YEARS to hire a competent personnel man. MS wasn't the problem here. Snyder and Allen were.[/quote]

This. Mike and Kyle Shannahan was just two small fried shrimps out of a big platter of monkey crap we had to eat.

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;1105398]This. Mike and Kyle Shannahan was just two small fried shrimps out of a big platter of monkey crap we had to eat.[/quote]

Mike Shanahan was given control of this team, and he f*cked things up royally. If he was so blameless, he'd have an HC position right now. He's just another one of Snyder's terrible hires, period.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1105400]Mike Shanahan was given control of this team, and he f*cked things up royally. If he was so blameless, he'd have an HC position right now. He's just another one of Snyder's terrible hires, period.[/quote]

No one ever said he was blameless. He made his share of mistakes too. I think where Snyder messed up was giving him total control. Should have had a strong GM picking the players and let Mike coach the team.