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[quote=Prop13;371172]Classless or not, I would think running up the score would be dangerous. ...for your quarterback. I would think that eventually somebody's gonna go Buddy Ryan on your ass.

I mean, if I'm the Jets or Miami--two teams that have all but given up on the season--why would I go out there and embarrass myself in front of my fans against a team that totally outclasses me and fully intends to run up the score? At some point, when a coach is watchin' the film, it has to occur to him that his best chance of winning, rather, his best chance of not getting completely embarrassed is to knock Tom Brady out of the game.

I mean, if I'm the coach of a marginal team, a guy who may or may not be on the hot seat anyway, what's worst?

A) Getting the score run up on you in front of your home crowd.
B) The opposition ridiculing you by putting their defense in as offense.
C) Both A and B
D) Taking a fifteen yard penalty and breaking Tom Brady's legs.

I think Buddy Ryan would opt for the latter. It only takes one coach to come to that conclusion. The Pats have a bunch more games to play, some of them against their division rivals, and it only takes one--just one coach--to say, "I'm not gonna let that happen to me."

Belichick is gonna take Tom Brady out of the game [I]after[/I] they run up the score, so if you want to stop that from happening, logic says you're gonna have to take care of Tom Brady [I]before[/I] he runs up the score.

Things happen in games. Players get ejected. Players get suspended--it happens all the time. Every week some players get hurt. If they have a penalty for something, in a way, it's part of the game. It wouldn't be the first time a quarterback's leg was broken.[/quote]

I personally would love to see some DE rub Brady's face in the turf so hard he can never again be the Stetson Man. That team makes me ill.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;371157]I have no problem with the Patriots offense doing what offenses are supposed to do -- score points. It is not the job of any offense to deliberately not make it into the endzone just to make the opposing team feel better.

If you don't want the score to be run up then stop them, or shut up.

How about this... if a team that is ahead by an absurd margin agrees not to "run up the score", should the other team also agree not to try to score?[/QUOTE]

Or how about this: leave your starters in and risk a desperate defense seriously injuring your star player. After all, what would they have to lose at that point? Classless? Possibly, but if an offense is there to score points, the defense is there to stop them.

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stop being pissed at the pats for doing what they are suppose to do is score. Maybe everyone should be pissed at the skins for sucking so bad on sunday. maybe the guys should have fought alittle harder. Instead of rolling over and taking it from the pats. Take a late hit on brady maybe hmm. The skins showed no fight. And for your FYI im saying at best were going to be again is .500. We will lose to Dallas twice and the giants again and the bears, and the bills or the bucs, so that is .500.

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[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;371195]stop being pissed at the pats for doing what they are suppose to do is score. Maybe everyone should be pissed at the skins for sucking so bad on sunday. maybe the guys should have fought alittle harder. Instead of rolling over and taking it from the pats. Take a late hit on brady maybe hmm. The skins showed no fight. And for your FYI im saying at best were going to be again is .500. We will lose to Dallas twice and the giants again and the bears, and the bills or the bucs, so that is .500.[/QUOTE]

I love your confidence.

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[quote=carbofisk;370641]Run up the score? ... What you're saying is, the Patriots were kicking your ass in every conceivable way, and so you wish they'd have just stopped playing. ... Maybe if you'd have cried really, really loud, they would have.

Here's an idea: Play some defense. ... And where was that defense of yours, anyway? ... Whatever -- thanks for dropping by Foxborough. ... And thanks for rolling over like the JV and getting blown out. ... Allowed us to leave early, get to a bar in plenty of time to watch the Red Sox win the World Series. ... It must suck not being a Boston sports fan right now.[/quote]


Wow... Here's an idea: Get a life ... is ur life that dull u gotta join a skins fan site a bitch to all their fans... u further solidify the statement that the patriots have no class ... I guess it extends out to their fans havin' no class too

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;371101]Or maybe it's the reason why everyone thinks the Pats lack class. It's akin to beating a guy in a boxing match and then just stomping on his head as he sits there motionless. Sorry, but that's a punk move.[/quote]
I was listening to the John Thompson Show on sports talk 980 and he was saying what I was thinking. Be quiet and play, why beg for mercy. He gave examples of the Skins running the score on the Giants and their 45-0 win against Detroit years back. Why do overpaid men want sports teams to take it easy one them? I am not too fond of the Redskins, obviously, but I really wanted them to beat the crap out of NE. I wanted the Skins D to beat up on Brady. The whole week leading up to it, it was our safties this and our safeties that. How can they let Brady their back up QB score running TDs?

BTW, the example you gave doesn't apply to this situation. The game was not over, maybe the Redskins thought it was but it actually wasn't.

[QUOTE] Finally, I'm tired of hearing people say that we are crying like babies for calling the Pats out for showing no class. I'm not crying, I'm pissed. Perhaps you cry when you are angry, but I don't. [/QUOTE]I think you are not getting it right. In this case, crying is more like whining. I have no problem people here whining, but players, come on.

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For me the Patriots will always be about the snow plow. That was the first (obvious) incident of cheating.
More recently, there's the taping.
And was I the only one who noticed (sorry I don't have much time to read all the posts) that we had no communication from upstairs in Foxboro for much of the first half? Is it possible on the series of plays where the game got out of hand (3 consecutive series with turnovers) we had no commuication from upstairs? Were the Patriots so desperate as to pull this stunt? Of course, even if they would have had limited communication (probably not) due to the rules, they still would have been prepared for it since they probably engineered it. Would we have won the game? Probably not. Would it have changed the complexion of the game. Certainly.

On a side note: Why have I never seen these short slants (the high-percentage passes I'm always talking about) run by our offense. We NEVER are going downfield when we catch the short passes.

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[quote=TheBigD;371235]I think you are not getting it right. In this case, crying is more like whining. I have no problem people here whining, but players, come on.[/quote]

First of all, Godfrey was the only one who said anything, and the dude's a veteran. I believe he used to wear your colors, hmmm...

Second, the other players and the coaches all said "the right thing" and said they didn't do enough to stop the Pats. So let's not start projecting a bunch of message board angst onto the team. But don't get it twisted, either -- everyone on that team knows what New England did to them, and everyone on the Patriots knows full well what they are doing to other teams. I'll say it again, karma is a bitch.

Third, there are PLENTY of people who are not Redskins fans who have called this what it is, and it's running up the score. We can all argue over whether sports commentators know what the hell they're talking about or not, but there's really no question that most commentators outside of Boston are taking notice of what this team is doing. I've even read some stories from the Boston media that refer to it as Belichick "raising a middle finger to the NFL".

And let's not forget that during the Ol' Ball Coach's brief run, we were accused of running up the score in that exhibition game.

[url=http://www.cjonline.com/PalmPilot/stories/080702/spo_spurrier.html]CJOnline.com | Handheld Version | Spurrier answering questions about running up score 08/07/02[/url]

I thought it was an arrogant and tacky move then when we did it, and I think it's arrogant and tacky now. When the day comes that a key player gets injured late in a game where they're pulling this BS, you better believe the second-guessing will start flying.

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if i remember correctly about that 45-0 game against Detroit, i know the skins defense scored the last touchdown, and the skins starters sat the entire 4th quarter. and i know for a fact that coach didn't go for any 4 and 2s in the second half. and big d, are you telling me the game wasn't over when the score was 38-0? come on, lets get real

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Not to resurface this thread again, but I get the feeling that teams are going to start taking shots at Brady late in the game.

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[quote=TheBigD;371235]I was listening to the John Thompson Show on sports talk 980 and he was saying what I was thinking. Be quiet and play, why beg for mercy. He gave examples of the Skins running the score on the Giants and their 45-0 win against Detroit years back. Why do overpaid men want sports teams to take it easy one them? I am not too fond of the Redskins, obviously, but I really wanted them to beat the crap out of NE. I wanted the Skins D to beat up on Brady. The whole week leading up to it, it was our safties this and our safeties that. How can they let Brady their back up QB score running TDs?

BTW, the example you gave doesn't apply to this situation. The game was not over, maybe the Redskins thought it was but it actually wasn't.

I think you are not getting it right. In this case, crying is more like whining. I have no problem people here whining, but players, come on.[/quote]


There was a nice little article on what you said on PFT i believe. To discount what you are saying, A Joe Gibbs team WILL NOT humiliate an oponent by running up the score. the Detroit game we ran the ball from mid 3rd quarter until end of the game. When we ran the ball down to the 2, we knelt down so we wouldn't score. The 49ers game from 2005, we didn't throw a pass after mid 3rd quarter, portis didn't touch the ball the 2nd half. and Ramsey played the last quarter or more. I dont want anyone saying Gibbs ran the score up on anyone, never happened, never will. Even if we played NE tomorrow and we up 38-0 in the 3rd, he would sit on the ball. He would not go for revenge, he would show class something the other dickhead knows nothing about.

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[quote=#56fanatic;371321]There was a nice little article on what you said on PFT i believe. To discount what you are saying, A Joe Gibbs team WILL NOT humiliate an oponent by running up the score. the Detroit game we ran the ball from mid 3rd quarter until end of the game. When we ran the ball down to the 2, we knelt down so we wouldn't score. The 49ers game from 2005, we didn't throw a pass after mid 3rd quarter, portis didn't touch the ball the 2nd half. and Ramsey played the last quarter or more. I dont want anyone saying Gibbs ran the score up on anyone, never happened, never will. Even if we played NE tomorrow and we up 38-0 in the 3rd, he would sit on the ball. He would not go for revenge, he would show class something the other dickhead knows nothing about.[/quote]

Maybe it's about damn time we start humiliating someone, dontcha think? By the way, Wilbon has nice article about all this too.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/29/AR2007102902167.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

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Kind of funny how everyone last week was ticked that Gibbs would sit on the lead and now people are mad because the Pats keep going. When they did but in their 2nd QB they still scored again. I just wish for the days when we can run the score up against anyone.

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[QUOTE=firstdown;371326]Kind of funny how everyone last week was ticked that Gibbs would sit on the lead and now people are mad because the Pats keep going. When they did but in their 2nd QB they still scored again. I just wish for the days when we can run the score up against anyone.[/QUOTE]
I don't think most people care that their backup QB came in and scored. Of course he's going to try to get in the endzone because it's not like he gets that many chances. Hell, if Cassel had been in for the entire 4th and scored 5 TDs I wouldn't care. We should just be embarrassed that our starting defense couldn't stop him.
BUT what is shitty is when Tom Brady is still in the game with 10 minutes to go in the 4th in a shotgun formation with 4 WRs or going for it on 4th down. Like someone mentioned before, that's pretty similar to the ol' ball coach keeping the starters in a preseason game just to score extra TDs. Like I've been saying all along, I just hope someone decides they've had enough of this shit and knocks brady into next week, and I'm just pissed that we weren't the ones to do it.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;371330]I don't think most people care that their backup QB came in and scored. Of course he's going to try to get in the endzone because it's not like he gets that many chances. Hell, if Cassel had been in for the entire 4th and scored 5 TDs I wouldn't care. We should just be embarrassed that our starting defense couldn't stop him.
BUT what is shitty is when Tom Brady is still in the game with 10 minutes to go in the 4th in a shotgun formation with 4 WRs or going for it on 4th down. Like someone mentioned before, that's pretty similar to the ol' ball coach keeping the starters in a preseason game just to score extra TDs. Like I've been saying all along, I just hope someone decides they've had enough of this shit and knocks brady into next week, and I'm just pissed that we weren't the ones to do it.[/quote]
Last time I checked it was Brady's job to go into the game and score points and its the D's job to stop them. Not his fault but D's and to get mad at them for doing so is funny to me. Thats the difference between the Pats coaches, Brady, and the rest of their team is that they want to be perfect all of the time even if the game is pretty much over. Did you see how brady got ticked at the false start when leading by 30 some points or how the coaches got ticked when their kicker muffed a ball out of bounds when leading by 30 some points. If those things would have happened with the Skins and that big of a lead the coaches and players would have laughed it off. THEY DON"T and thats whay they are kicking everyone to the curb and are going to wip the Colts. I just hope some of that attitude rubed off on some of our players or our players watched how they play to be perfect.

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It's simple people: begging for mercy and not wanting to be humiliated are NOT the same.

Belichick humiliated us, and people are upset. What's so hard to understand?

Most of the people arguing for Belichick can only say, "what do you want them to do? Win the game for you? They don't need to show you mercy." Obviously, that's the only argument you can come up with, because there is no justification for humiliation. Why don't you address the real issue (humiliation), instead of making up a new one that you can argue for?

Just quit talking if all you can say is that they don't have to show you mercy. No shit Sherlock. They don't HAVE to show humility either -- but they should. Why don't you tell us why humility isn't important?

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if we were the pats you would want as many points as possible.

im not mad at them.

a loss is a loss, we got bent over and raped.

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Maybe they should have made Brady throw with his left arm, tie weights to the feet of lineman, make their running back craw. We had been humiliated way before the forth quarter.

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[QUOTE=dall-assblows;371383]if we were the pats you would want as many points as possible.

im not mad at them.

a loss is a loss, we got bent over and raped.[/QUOTE]If we were up 38-0 going into the 4th quarter and Gibbs still had Campbell in I'd be more than a little pissed because there is no need to leave him in and exposed to major injury in that situation. Like I keep saying, there is no reasonable justification for having brady in at that stage of the game.
At this point I'm not really mad at them either, I'm just really mad that our guys didn't punish belichick for leaving his boy in there.

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you remember when we put up 52 on the niners? did we back down at all? i cant remember. to long ago

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We did, we ran the ball on something like 23 of the last 25 plays from scrimmage. Including the entire 4th Quarter.

I think Ramsey played the 4th as well as Betts and Cartwright (who were clearly backups in 2005)

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[quote=SmootSmack;371414]We did, we ran the ball on something like 23 of the last 25 plays from scrimmage. Including the entire 4th Quarter.

I think Ramsey played the 4th as well as Betts and Cartwright (who were clearly backups in 2005)[/quote]

Yep. Betts came in and ran all over the Niners, so we rested him for Cartwright and he even scored a TD on them. Ramsey ran 3 times (for -3 yards) and passed only once as we tried to run the clock out by running. Unfortunately, they still let us move the ball and score...not great for running the clock out. :D

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore;_ylt=AjEhJf7GsfuzAhU9ZoKzFfoisLYF?gid=20051023028]NFL - San Francisco 49ers/Washington Redskins Box Score Sunday October 23, 2005 - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=Buster;371436]Yep. Betts came in and ran all over the Niners, so we rested him for Cartwright and he even scored a TD on them. Ramsey ran 3 times (for -3 yards) and passed only once as we tried to run the clock out by running. Unfortunately, they still let us move the ball and score...not great for running the clock out. :D[/quote]

Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent can kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.

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[quote=dall-assblows;371413]you remember when we put up 52 on the niners? did we back down at all? i cant remember. to long ago[/quote]
I was there...

Quite the game... and yes, we put up 52, and did it with class. Lavar tore it up that game...

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[quote=skinsfan69;371460]Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent is waiting for you to run it and kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.[/quote]

Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.

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[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;371378]It's simple people: begging for mercy and not wanting to be humiliated are NOT the same.

Belichick humiliated us, and people are upset. What's so hard to understand?

Most of the people arguing for Belichick can only say, "what do you want them to do? Win the game for you? They don't need to show you mercy." Obviously, that's the only argument you can come up with, because there is no justification for humiliation. Why don't you address the real issue (humiliation), instead of making up a new one that you can argue for?

Just quit talking if all you can say is that they don't have to show you mercy. No shit Sherlock. They don't HAVE to show humility either -- but they should. Why don't you tell us why humility isn't important?[/QUOTE]

Isn't every team "humiliated" by every loss? No matter how large or small the point margin?

Call it what you want, humiliated, humbled, embarassed, -- just don't complain about the opposing team trying to score points. [B]No NFL offense has an obligation to avoid scoring just because the other teams' players might get their feelings hurt.[/B]

These are grown men we're talking about here. The people who think it's wrong to "run up the score" are sounding like 8-year olds.

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[quote=skinsfan69;371460]Here we go again...... The bottom line is NE has a different mentality than us. They put in the back-ups to score. Has Matt Cassell ever throw a pass in the NFL? I don't think he has. So what good does it do to bring the guy in to hand the damn ball off? Get the guy some well needed game experience and try to score. What if Brady gets hurt? Get the next guy ready and the only way to do that is get him on the field during a game and let him throw some.

When we played SF it would have made sense to have Ramsey throw some passes so he could get some more game experience and knock off some rust. Why go in and hand it off so the opponent can kill your RB? It makes no damn sense. Again, it's the defenses responsibility to get off the field and stop the offense.

If I were coaching the Redskins ( and thank god I'm not) I would have pulled Randall Godrey aside and lit into his ass for crying like a little bitch. He has no balls what so ever and as far as I'm concerned ship his sorry ass back to Dallas.[/quote]

I'm feeling you on Godfrey. I mean, what has the NFL turned into, the gentlemen's club? Who goes to the opposing coach and complains after a game. I don't want this guy on my team. No fight, no nasty. We need three more Sean Taylors and one more Laron Landry on this team. Too many soft asses...hell, let Portis play defense.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;371462]Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. [B]And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.[/B]

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.[/QUOTE]

So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is 49-7 instead of 52-7?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.

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[quote=Mattyk72;371462]Your mentality, and the mentality of the Patriots is not the norm in the NFL. Most teams with a big lead will pull starters and milk the clock. And most importantly, they don't go for it on 4th down when they are in FG range.

I know you don't agree, but that's what most teams do, and that's why people including myself were a little irked with how the Patriots went about things on Sunday.[/quote]

Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.

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[quote=12thMan;371464]I'm feeling you on Godfrey. I mean, what has the NFL turned into, the gentlemen's club? Who goes to the opposing coach and complains after a game. I don't want this guy on my team. No fight, no nasty. We need three more Sean Taylors and one more Laron Landry on this team. Too many soft asses...hell, let Portis play defense.[/quote]

Honestly we should just cut him to send a message. We simply don't need guys like that.

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[quote=Beemnseven;371466]So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is [B]49-7 instead of 52-7[/B]?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.[/quote]

LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?

I agree with you and Skinsfan69. Why didn't anyone say something when they did that to other teams like the 0-6 Dolphins, no one thought that was classless. I am not sure but I think the Skins D had their image shaken and that is what they don't like. Up untill that game, the D was regarded highly and many thought could survive against good teams. I am not hearing much crying from the offensive side of the ball. The D gave up late in the game and expected NE to do the same.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;371463]Isn't every team "humiliated" by every loss? No matter how large or small the point margin?

Call it what you want, humiliated, humbled, embarassed, -- just don't complain about the opposing team trying to score points. [B]No NFL offense has an obligation to avoid scoring just because the other teams' players might get their feelings hurt.[/B]

These are grown men we're talking about here. The people who think it's wrong to "run up the score" are sounding like 8-year olds.[/QUOTE]

So, just because you think teams (and people) are humiliated every day that makes it right? Please. Just because things happen doesn't mean they should. It's called is/ought confusion, and you are definitely confused.

I'm not complaining about the opposing team scoring points. I'm complaining about BB not showing humility. It's a thing that humans (should) do -- regardless of your job, or how much you get paid. Don't twist words to suit your argument. Scoring points isn't the problem.

Yes, they are grown men. That is why they should behave in a more considerate and respectable manner. They could have stopped with 38 points, but they decided to add another 14. And, that's not a problem. It's just that they kept their starters in. That shows they were INTENTIONALLY trying to run up the score. Eight year olds are still learning how to behave in a considerate and respectable manner. Grown men should already know how to do that.

It is baffling that you think people asking for others to be considerate are acting like eight year olds, but people who couldn't care less about their fellow man are being "grown men". I am so disappointed in you.

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Well, what's done is done. I do not expect the Patriots to do anything different the rest of the year unless someone actually gives them a game...and I'm not so sure that will happen. I'm not so sure the Colts can handle them either.

Look. There's no sense in dwelling on the fact that we got our asses handed to us. They ran up the score...they didn't run up the score...bottom line is a good team got pummelled by a great team. The best way to react to that is for the Redskins to go to New York and hand out an ass whooping of their own.

I think this coming weekend will be a much better guage as to where this team is and can go, as compared to last weekend.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;371468]Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.[/QUOTE]
Well, I heard Steve Young and Tom Jackson say it was wrong. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had a problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

I would have had no problem with them kicking the field goal just like I had no problem with their backup trying to score because that is vastly different than having your starters throwing deep when you're already up by 7 scores.

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[QUOTE=TheBigD;371471]LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?[/QUOTE]


Check your math, Cowchip fan. 52 - 49 = 3.

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[quote=Beemnseven;371466]So you would have been less "irked" if they had tried for a field goal and the final score is 49-7 instead of 52-7?

What's the cut-off point for being "irked" at the score, and being okay with it?

As we can see, the Patriots aren't anywhere close to the 'norm' in this league. Maybe more teams should adopt this mentality, rather than cry about it.[/quote]

You missed my point, the score didn't tick me off, the fact that they were going for it on 4th down and throwing bombs down the field with a huge lead is what annoyed me. I know, I know, stop them if you don't want them doing that sort of thing. Actually even if we stopped them it would have annoyed me. I would have been thinking what the hell are they doing going for it on 4th down?!

It wasn't the end result, just the way they went about their business not just Sunday but all season that irks me. Belichick seems to be on a personal mission to embarrass the entire league since he himself was embarrassed over the cheating scandal. I'm just not a big fan of him.

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[QUOTE=TheBigD;371471]LOL...how is a FG worth 4 points?

I agree with you and Skinsfan69. Why didn't anyone say something when they did that to other teams like the 0-6 Dolphins, no one thought that was classless. I am not sure but I think the Skins D had their image shaken and that is what they don't like. Up untill that game, the D was regarded highly and many thought could survive against good teams. I am not hearing much crying from the offensive side of the ball. The D gave up late in the game and expected NE to do the same.[/QUOTE]
Honestly, their D clearly backed off at the end of the game and that's how we were able to drive for the touchdown and avoid the shut out.

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[quote=skinsfan69;371468]Well I have heard 3 former Redskins in the last 24 hours say too bad and deal with it. Actually 4. Mark Scherleth (sp?) was on ESPN and he killed the Redskins. Bob Golic too. So when you have players who played the game at the highest level saying they had no problem with what NE did then you have to wonder.

Plus if they kicked the FG people would still be crying, and NE did pull the starters.[/quote]

I've heard plenty of opinions on both sides of the issue from those in the media.

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i wasnt mad at the Pats for running up the score, our hard-hittin skins D should have sent coach B a message by sending a few starters to the bench on a stretcher . . .

one commentator last night did say something i hadnt thought of . . . the fake spike when the pats were already cruising (then randy pushing off) was alil cheap. I understand doing that when your trying to tie or take the lead late in a game but when your cruising to victory and show a spike the other teams D players assume your going to spike it to kick a field goal so they (as a professional courtesy) just mush together with the O line and dont try and penetrate or get to the QB