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Warpath 08-28-2008 09:40 PM

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Didnt Brooks hold in the 2nd or 3rd preseason game (counting canton as 1)? Im pretty sure he held for a few FGs and extra points and he did just fine. Im with Brooks.

WaldSkins 08-28-2008 09:40 PM

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[QUOTE=4thGenRedskin21;468974]shoulda been caught.[/QUOTE]

Maybe, but he got hit early which is why he didnt catch it.

Warren85Ellard 08-28-2008 09:41 PM

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Throw a damn screen to Thomas and lets see what he's got

skinsnut 08-28-2008 09:41 PM

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mason just cant get a first down tonight

Darrell_Green_28 08-28-2008 09:41 PM

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seal your job now brooks

Darrell_Green_28 08-28-2008 09:42 PM

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damn nothing right

skinsnut 08-28-2008 09:43 PM

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brooks kicks a crapper and gets lucky on a roll

Beemnseven 08-28-2008 09:44 PM

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;468976]If I didn't know better I'd swear he was a late round rookie.[/QUOTE]

Har har.

See, I want our late round rookies to play like Pro Bowl veterans. That's not asking too much is it?

Darrell_Green_28 08-28-2008 09:44 PM

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wow did he just say "and a couple of weeks later he ended up with a head job"?

skinsnut 08-28-2008 09:45 PM

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one thing I like about horton..the guy knows how to tackle once he gets his hands on you

Beemnseven 08-28-2008 09:47 PM

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Justin Hamilton is making some noise tonight -- he always seems to be around the ball carrier.

skinsnut 08-28-2008 09:47 PM

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bochetti just made a killer play behing the line twice in a row

Beemnseven 08-28-2008 09:49 PM

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2 minutes til this crap is over.

Darrell_Green_28 08-28-2008 09:50 PM

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2 preseason games and only a fg in each just pathetic

DIRTEE 08-28-2008 09:50 PM

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Its hard to make cuts with two back to back shitty games.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-28-2008 09:51 PM

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How did we go from looking like an All-World team to a high school JV team in a matter of a few weeks? This is pathetic. In the last two weeks [B]we've been outscored 71-6.[/B]. I know it's just the preseason, but 71-6 is not meaningless.

Skins_4_Lyfe 08-28-2008 09:54 PM

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I hope the cuts begin as early as tonight...these last 2 weeks have been pathetic

skinsnut 08-28-2008 09:56 PM

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They need to overcut and do a killer job on the waiver wire....especially LB, then saftey, CB and Oline

DIRTEE 08-28-2008 09:58 PM

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The only thing I really saw was the whole in the middle of our defense, but Fletcher will correct that. No worries.

As for the offense, not concerned, we have Portis and Cooley. No worries.

DIRTEE 08-28-2008 09:59 PM

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Would be nice to grab Bruce Davis, LB, when he's cut.

GMScud 08-28-2008 09:59 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;468998]How did we go from looking like an All-World team to a high school JV team in a matter of a few weeks? This is pathetic. In the last two weeks [B]we've been outscored 71-6.[/B]. I know it's just the preseason, but 71-6 is not meaningless.[/quote]

Zorn needs to calm down. He's pressing. He's been pressing ever since the 2nd drive of the Jets game. Calm down, run the football a little, run a few short routes/3-5 step drop type plays to set the tempo...

Most importantly though, it's obvious we're not yet comfortable enough with the passing system to throw on every first down. And the toll all the consecutive 3 and outs have on our defense is even more obvious.

vallin21 08-28-2008 10:01 PM

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We need to look into a starting SS.

Also Tryon was a waste of a draft pick

skinsnut 08-28-2008 10:04 PM

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What worries me is that decent to good running teams mauled us.
That means our run defense is suspect and our unwillingness to punch them back with the same puts us behind with these 3 yard passes.

vallin21 08-28-2008 10:18 PM

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hopefully when Jason taylor comes back and marcus washington gets to 100% we'll be alright.

SmootSmack 08-28-2008 10:23 PM

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;468998]How did we go from looking like an All-World team to a high school JV team in a matter of a few weeks? This is pathetic. In the last two weeks [B]we've been outscored 71-6.[/B]. I know it's just the preseason, but 71-6 is not meaningless.[/QUOTE]

We're probably somewhere in between awesome and awful. I think the Jets game is a good indicator of the type of team we will be. We won't dominate anyone, but we'll hang tight in most games.

skinsfan69 08-28-2008 10:26 PM

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Next Thurs Zorn had better realize that we are not a passing team. I hate to say this but we just need to try and run the ball and pass here and there. Devin Thomas looks lost out there and Kelly can't seem to get on the field. Not sure about Davis. I also noticed that Montgomery and Goldston looked like shit when they were in there.

Lady Brave 08-28-2008 10:45 PM

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I didn't get to watch this one. Seems like I didn't miss much.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-28-2008 10:54 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;469012]We're probably somewhere in between awesome and awful. I think the Jets game is a good indicator of the type of team we will be. We won't dominate anyone, but we'll hang tight in most games.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but I'm a little nervous. I don't have a lot of faith in either unit. Our offense has question marks along the oline, at QB, and WR. The starters on offense struggled against the Jets, Panthers and Jags. More troubling, however, is that our defense appears soft. Don't get me wrong, I think we'll be respectable, but I think things are going to get worse before they get better.

GusFrerotte 08-28-2008 11:02 PM

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[quote=squrrelco3;468884]I firgure we're due for an 8-8 or 9-7 season with on the job training for Campbell, I just hope we draft the hell out of some linemen next year especially on the offensive side of the ball...[/quote]


How much on the job training does a guy need? I know it is a new scheme, but damn, JC needs to get some consistency going with his play, or we will be cooked this season. If his(JC's) fortunes don't change soon this is going to be Brennan's show in 2009 or 2010.

GMScud 08-28-2008 11:09 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;469018]I agree, but I'm a little nervous. I don't have a lot of faith in either unit. Our offense has question marks along the oline, at QB, and WR. The starters on offense struggled against the Jets, Panthers and Jags. More troubling, however, is that our defense appears soft. Don't get me wrong, I think we'll be respectable, but I think things are going to get worse before they get better.[/quote]

If Marcus, Rocky, and Carlos all stay healthy, with Taylor and Carter going after the QB and Laron back there, I think we'll be ok defensively. I really do. But a lot of our starters seem fragile and our depth is lacking. That's my biggest worry on either side of the ball. Second would be the O-line, particularly the right side...

The first 5 games are so tough- 3 division road games and Arizona and New Orleans. I personally think NO will play Dallas in the NFC Championship game. Arizona, Dallas, and NO all have great offenses, and playing in Philly and New York will be so tough. I hope folks around here aren't devastated if we start 1-4 with our only win against Arizona. It's very possible.

vallin21 08-28-2008 11:09 PM

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I have always said this season falls on JC. If his doesn't produce early or show promise he'll be riding the bench in 09 to whoever is the starter.

over the mountain 08-28-2008 11:12 PM

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;468988]Har har.

See, I want our late round rookies to play like Pro Bowl veterans. That's not asking too much is it?[/QUOTE]

good stuff beemnseven. Glad u saw I was just havin alil fun. If I could give u rep points ud get em.

DynamiteRave 08-28-2008 11:16 PM

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I was watching the DNC all night.. So I missed the game.

...What was the score?

GMScud 08-28-2008 11:17 PM

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Wow, actually, in looking at our schedule, I'd say only the Ravens and the Niners are the only teams without legitimate playoff potential.

GusFrerotte 08-28-2008 11:17 PM

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[quote=vallin21;469021]I have always said this season falls on JC. If his doesn't produce early or show promise he'll be riding the bench in 09 to whoever is the starter.[/quote


His play will be everything if this team is going to return to the playoffs. In the beginning of preseason all 3 QB's looked good, but now Collins and Brennan look like they should be the ones competing for the starting job.

The Goat 08-28-2008 11:19 PM

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[QUOTE=GMScud;469020]If Marcus, Rocky, and Carlos all stay healthy, with Taylor and Carter going after the QB and Laron back there, I think we'll be ok defensively. I really do. But a lot of our starters seem fragile and our depth is lacking. That's my biggest worry on either side of the ball. Second would be the O-line, particularly the right side...

The first 5 games are so tough- 3 division road games and Arizona and New Orleans. I personally think NO will play Dallas in the NFC Championship game. Arizona, Dallas, and NO all have great offenses, and playing in Philly and New York will be so tough. I hope folks around here aren't devastated if we start 1-4 with our only win against Arizona. It's very possible.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I think 1-4 to start is very likely. My best guess is that our offense will continue to be ineffective for several games and in the meantime the defense will get very worn. If Zorn can help JC and the passing game get their shit together we could see a rebound in the 2nd half of the season, but it will still require a heroic effort from the defense to give us a chance.

GusFrerotte 08-28-2008 11:21 PM

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[quote=GMScud;469020]If Marcus, Rocky, and Carlos all stay healthy, with Taylor and Carter going after the QB and Laron back there, I think we'll be ok defensively. I really do. But a lot of our starters seem fragile and our depth is lacking. That's my biggest worry on either side of the ball. Second would be the O-line, particularly the right side...

The first 5 games are so tough- 3 division road games and Arizona and New Orleans. I personally think NO will play Dallas in the NFC Championship game. Arizona, Dallas, and NO all have great offenses, and playing in Philly and New York will be so tough. I hope folks around here aren't devastated if we start 1-4 with our only win against Arizona. It's very possible.[/quote]

Unfortunately, I agree with you. 2-2 might be the best we can hope for. We are not playing good football as of late. Sure it is preseason, but our dumb mistakes and lack of execution the past few games doesn't bode well for the real deal next week.

GusFrerotte 08-28-2008 11:24 PM

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[quote=GMScud;469025]Wow, actually, in looking at our schedule, I'd say only the Ravens and the Niners are the only teams without legitimate playoff potential.[/quote]


I just hope we can knock off Dallas and split with our other intradivisional rivals as well. Would hate to get smoked by all 3. I could swallow 7-9 to 9-7 as long as we at least beat our rivals at least once.

doughtydoubter 08-28-2008 11:36 PM

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Dude..we better not have another spurrier year..im drunk...morbidly depressed tonight...and if we dont have a good skins season i think it will puh me over the god damn brink....ill be done

The Goat 08-28-2008 11:43 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Jaguars Thread
 
Probably rehashing old material from this thread but what surprises me most is how the starting offense doesn't look crisp. I didn't expect huge production because of the transition to WCO etc but definitely expected a crispness we lacked under Gibbs: way fewer penalties; short to medium routes that had guys open enough to consistently chip away yards; play-calling that seemed to keep the defense on its heals instead of getting to the ball so quickly.


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