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[quote=Alvin Walton;737411][B]Its only been two games and some of you guys are acting like he's the reincarnation of Ronnie Lott.[/B]
I think I'll wait until January till all is forgiven.
Landry has a lot of mediocre play to make up for.[/quote]

Not really, but after 2 games I think a few things are obvious. He's being used to his strengths in this defense. He's playing closer to the line where he can headhunt backs and blitz the QB. He's also playing with a renewed sense of confidence. This is the perfect type of defense for him unlike under Blache where he was horribly miscast as a free safety.

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Surprising stat of the week....

NFL Total tackle leader

1, Laron Landry 28 TT

3. Rocky Mcintosh 24 TT

[B]7. DEANGELO HALL 21 TOTAL TCKS[/B]

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;737418]Surprising stat of the week....

NFL Total tackle leader

1, Laron Landry 28 TT

3. Rocky Mcintosh 24 TT

[B]7. DEANGELO HALL 21 TOTAL TCKS[/B][/quote]

15. Reed Doughty 19 TT

22. London Fletcher 18 TT



Also, Carlos Rogers is tied for 3rd in the league in pass deflections (3).

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[quote=takethecake;737315]And so far, slightly less trash-talking and bone-headed late hits out of bounds. I like what i'm seeing; the guy is a freak lurking around the line of scrimmage[/quote]
THAT is what Sean did so well. Always near the ball. ST scared the hell out of many people that had to cross "his turf". I hope LL can continue to evolve in that direction.......

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;737418]Surprising stat of the week....

NFL Total tackle leader

1, Laron Landry 28 TT

3. Rocky Mcintosh 24 TT

[B]7. DEANGELO HALL 21 TOTAL TCKS[/B][/quote]

Lol, thats cause our defense couldn't get the texans off the field

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yeah you definitely don't want your cb's high up in tackles.. that's what LB's are for

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[quote=tryfuhl;737713]yeah you definitely don't want your cb's high up in tackles.. that's what LB's are for[/quote]

LOL that means you cant stop the run!

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[quote=Mattyk;737406]I think the OP should come back and re-name it. :)[/quote]

The_Woat?

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[quote=Buster;737420][B]15. Reed Doughty 19 TT[/B]

22. London Fletcher 18 TT



Also, Carlos Rogers is tied for 3rd in the league in pass deflections (3).[/quote]

That F'ing bastard Doughty! How dare he surpass London Fletcher on tackles. I'm telling you, he's a team cancer. [/sarcasm]

:smashfrea

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One of those Rogers' deflections should have been a pick. Typical. :D

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I just think it may prove that DH can actually tackle something he struggled with last year and had alot of hate from this board thrown his way.

I do agree you dont want a CB that high on the list. Landry and Rocky are ok, but not the CB.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;737411]Its only been two games and some of you guys are acting like he's the reincarnation of Ronnie Lott.
I think I'll wait until January till all is forgiven.
Landry has a lot of mediocre play to make up for.[/quote]

This is sorta where I'm at. Landry has proven he's not a bust; however, I think at this point he's far from an overall dominant safety. Very strong this year against the run and obviously made enormous strides in form, technique and tackling. Landry is still a bigtime liability in coverage...sorta more of the same: bad angles, etc. In both games he's blown coverage, especially when the corner blitz has been called and apparently it becomes Landry's assignment to pick-up the WR. He's given up plays like the rest of our defense, especially against the Texans.

...he reminds me of Roy in Dallas for all those years. Tough as nails against the run but eventually teams learned how to exploit his weaknesses. It will be very interesting to see if Landry gets to the next level.

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Landry was an embarrassment last year.

He was ****ing terrible for a player with his "skill" set.

As many people have speculated he might have simply been out of position.

Dude looks like a Pro Bowler so far this year. All Pro even.

The coaching staff last year was likely incompetent. The evidence of that will hopefully mount as the year continues and we start to kick ass.

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[quote=Ruhskins;737730]That F'ing bastard Doughty! How dare he surpass London Fletcher on tackles. I'm telling you, he's a team cancer. [/sarcasm]

:smashfrea[/quote]
well that's going a bit far

however if you can't admit that Doughty has been outmatched you're probably delusional

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Seem to be talking about doughty a whole bunch. Just wanted to express my desire to replace him with someone more competent. He was good in run support, but we seem to be playing him in pass support alot, and he seems to get owned by pretty much everyone. I might be wrong on this, but Haslett's system seems to have the safety's be more important than the corner's. I'm not saying that Doughty is bad, he's just not quite good enough for me to feel comfortable with him roaming around there in pass coverage all the time in this system.

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[quote=Ruhskins;737730]That F'ing bastard Doughty! How dare he surpass London Fletcher on tackles. I'm telling you, he's a team cancer. [/sarcasm]

:smashfrea[/quote]

Well, Reed's tackles are a result of teams targeting him as the weakness of the D. Fletch flies around like a heat-seeking missile.

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[quote=tryfuhl;737774][B]well that's going a bit far
[/B]
however if you can't admit that Doughty has been outmatched you're probably delusional[/quote]

Hence the "[/sarcasm]"

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Love how this thread has turned into an epic fail.

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This thread may be the worst thread in the history of the Warpath!!! H AHA AH AHAHA WHAT AN EFfFing jokE!!!! HA AHAHA

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We should bring this back every April Fools Day.

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Matty, can you change the title to "Landry is now a Beast!" ?

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[quote=Mattyk;746055]Love how this thread has turned into an epic fail.[/quote]

Yeah I'd say we can put this thread to bed. At this time last year I was done with Laron Landry. Not so much anymore. He's turned into an animal. Well, I guess he's always been an animal, he's just finally being used the way he's supposed to.

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I think the OP should come back and suggest a new thread title. Or at least admit he's been proven wrong.

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[quote=GMScud;746074]Yeah I'd say we can put this thread to bed. At this time last year I was done with Laron Landry. Not so much anymore. He's turned into an animal. Well, [B]I guess he's always been an animal, he's just finally being used the way he's supposed to[/B].[/quote]

AGREE... This is the key to developing this team. We are so fast to go after players like AH without giving guys in our own backyard a chance to develop. We must get these guys plugged into their appropriate positions and use them properly. I think we are finally seeing this happen.

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He's arguably the best player on the Skins right now.

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[quote=Fan033;746083]He's arguably the best player on the Skins right now.[/quote]
I don't think you would get much of an argument.........

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[quote=Hog1;746108]I don't think you would get much of an argument.........[/quote]
He has been a beast, but I am saying an argument could be made for Orakpo.

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We should leave it the way it is. That way 10 years from now if Landry plays consistently like this, we can keep looking back at this thread as a reminder. If you change it to Landry is a Beast, well it loses all its' meaning and becomes just a regular thread with nothing special about it.

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A "bust" perhaps well on the way to his first pro-bowl.

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Actually I love seeing this thread title, because it's amazing how much one position change can make. What a beast.

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[quote=Mattyk;746076]I think the OP should come back and suggest a new thread title. Or at least admit he's been proven wrong.[/quote]


Where is Goat by the way? His thread has been proven wrong this season, but he is a Warpath regular and a solid poster. I haven't seen him post in a while now.

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[quote=ethat001;746156]Actually I love seeing this thread title, because it's amazing how much one position change can make. What a beast.[/quote]


What's more amazing is how we sometimes judge players a little too prematurely, in praise as well as critical.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;746158]Where is Goat by the way? His thread has been proven wrong this season, but he is a Warpath regular and a solid poster. I haven't seen him post in a while now.[/quote]

As the man who started the thread "Defense has Major Issues" after we got our asses kicked by the Rams in Week 3 I know a little bit of how Goat must be feeling about this thread.

Basically it was a little premature to start it knowing we were transitioning to a 3-4 defense and it would take time and we should've been prepared to see games like that during the transition, and in consecutive weeks our defense has been a major reason for our consecutive wins while our offense has been a big reason why these games have been close.

I'm sure a lot of us felt like Landry was playing out of position under Blatche and while I certainly believed if we had a defensive coordinator who used him to his strengths he could've been effective, well obviously there are others who thought Landry was a bust.

I'm definitely not proud to be that guy (I especially won't be happy to be 'that guy' if our defense becomes dominant in latter years in the 3-4) whose thread might be brought back up as an example of panicking too early, and I'm sure Goat doesn't want to hang around knowing everybody will remember him as the guy who thought Landry was a bust if Landry continues playing like this for years to come.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;746158]Where is Goat by the way? His thread has been proven wrong this season, but he is a Warpath regular and a solid poster. I haven't seen him post in a while now.[/quote]

I don't know. I miss The Goat. And in his defense there were others in this thread who agreed with him.

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[quote=ethat001;746156]Actually I love seeing this thread title, because it's amazing how much one position change can make. What a beast.[/quote]

He was NEVER a bust. This thread was idiotic the second it was posted.

Devin Thomas is a bust... There is a 95% chance that Kelly is a bust. Tryon was a bust. That punter who beat out the other punter is a bust (I could go on and on) Laron Landry was never a bust.

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[quote=Lotus;746189]I don't know. I miss The Goat. And in his defense there were others in this thread who agreed with him.[/quote]

He's still here, he just posted the other day. He's just conveniently avoiding this thread.

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[quote=skinster;737788]Seem to be talking about doughty a whole bunch. Just wanted to express my desire to replace him with someone more competent. He was good in run support, but we seem to be playing him in pass support alot, and he seems to get owned by pretty much everyone. I might be wrong on this, but Haslett's system seems to have the safety's be more important than the corner's. I'm not saying that Doughty is bad, he's just not quite good enough for me to feel comfortable with him roaming around there in pass coverage all the time in this system.[/quote]

Dude.
Doughty finished the season after the Raiders game as the FS.
In Blache's scheme the FS has more ground to cover then in this current system.
Logic would say that if he could play FS in that system he can play FS in this system.
Also, Doughty is a sure tackler he's not a big hitter but he doesn't miss.
I'm not down on Moore in any way but i'm sure that Reed would have made the tackles on S. Jackson's long run in the Rams game and B. Jacksons long run in the Packers game.

HTTR

Like i said at the time this thread was started
Landry was never a bust.

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LL didn't look very good in other systems, so the thread at the time was legit.

In this system, he's playing like one of the best safeties in the league. Matter of fact, he's 2nd in the NFL in tackles. Not the NFC, the NFL. You could always see the guy is talented, now he's playing like it.

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This from Peter King this morning:
Move over, Troy Polamalu.
It's good to be able to watch all the games in the NBC viewing room on Sundays, because it allows me to keep an eye on players around the league. And in the first five weeks of the season, no single defensive player in the league has jumped from relative anonymity to stardom like strong safety LaRon Landry of the Redskins. He leads the NFL in tackles (52) through five weeks, and Sunday, he was the most important Redskin defender in a 16-13 beat down of Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.
Talk about starting and finishing the job: In the first minute of the game, on the first Green Bay series of the day, he creamed tight end Donald Lee and forced a fumble that the Redskins recovered. In the 63rd minute, in overtime, Landry picked off a Rodgers pass intended for the forgotten Greg Jennings; five minutes later, a Graham Gano field goal won the game.
"He's fast, he's a hitter and loves to play,'' coach Mike Shanahan said after the game. "He's that way every snap -- obviously a great football player.''
Landry was a first-round pick by the Redskins in 2007, and the coach then, Joe Gibbs, wanted to pair him with Sean Taylor long-term to give Washington the most feared set of safeties in the league. But Taylor died that November, and when Gibbs retired after the season, the new regime moved Landry from strong safety to free.
"My rookie year, I felt I was in the right position to take advantage of how aggressive I like to play,'' Landry told me last night. "But when the staff changed, coach [Greg] Blache moved me, and nothing against him, I didn't feel it took advantage of what I did best. As a free safety, I'm kind of the savior back there, sitting back. That's not how I play best.''
But new coordinator Jim Haslett moved him to strong again, and Landry is comfortable in run-support and the occasional blitz. Against Green Bay, he led a disguising Washington scheme that seemed to frustrate Rodgers all afternoon.
"I think the best is yet to come for me,'' he said. And maybe for the Redskins too. They've beaten Philadelphia and Dallas already, and they're tied for first in the NFC East. Landry's nearly as big a reason for that as Donovan McNabb.

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LL is our MVP so far in my book.