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[quote=ethat001;734888]I'm not sure that's fair -- I don't think it was just Zorn that wanted a big receiver. It was almost everyone on this board, the media, and pretty much everyone that was complaining we didn't have a tall target for the endzone. Sure, in hindsight Desean Jackson is a beast -- but no need to trash Zorn for missing on him.[/quote]

But does ANY FO give that much weight to what fans and the media are telling them to do? Now, I'll skewer Vinny all day for totally neglecting linemen, but if the scheme change to the WCO had not happened, I doubt there would be such urgency to grab a big and tall WR. Zorn's WCO is Holmgren's inspired, which in turn is about as close to a "pure" WCO there is. Lots of short passes in tight windows.

Not that Vinny is totally absolved from blame. He and Danny boy's approach to FA and WRs in FA were absolutely detrimental to the team. Putting all their eggs in ARE's basket obviously also affected the outcome of 2008's draft, as it sure appeared to give them incentive to pass over "small" guys because they were already "set" with small guys.

So, in short, I guess what I'm trying to say is that Cerrato did screw the pooch in the draft, but it was more because of the other dumb crap he did. Hiring Zorn modified his incentives and priorities in the draft so that "big and tall" possession guys were "needed". Being over-aggressive in FA caused them to be "tied up" roster-wise with guys like ARE, who he also overrated. [B]Even so,[/B] the outcome of grabbing three second rounders and having a couple flame is not Vinny-exclusive.

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All I know is how does a 2-time pro bowler who the redskins want to dump because of 3-4 scheme/workout offseason program differences only garner a 3rd as the highest and more likely a 4th or 5th...

But a 2-time Pro WR who is serving an NFL suspension for the 1st 4 games and 1 DUI away from being suspended a full NFL season be worth a whole lot [B]MORE[/B] than our guy...

fact is..he's not!
If the chargers want two 2nd round picks,then let them keep him or someone else have him...

All in all....I would not pay much more for V-Jack than what Hayneworth's value on the market currently is...

The risk is too high and he's going to want Big money...
and we only get him for 3/4 of this season,assuming he's ready and knows the offense.

No way would I trade anything more for V-Jack,than what Albert's value is...
And I'm betting that Bruce feels the same way!

having said that,he would be a huge upgrade and give us a big target for McNabb!

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If we don't make this deal I will be beyond infuriated. First we failed to get Boldin, then T.O, and lastly TJ. Say what you want about Cerrato. Atleast he could compelete a deal if he really wanted a player.

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I've fliped floped back & forth on this one but now I see it this way unless SD take a 6th rounder for him from us then wait till 2011 and sign him for nothing.

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I'm 50/50 on this issue as well...

Part of me is like.."Well, I sure don't want to drop 1st or 2nd round picks for a guy that could be as bad a character (dui/suspensions) as the guy we are having issues with currently in Fat Al and would try if only it cost us 3rd,4th or lower picks to get him"

And the other part of me is like...are we going to have a chance for another WR with the skill sets as V-Jack...be it FA next season or even the draft? We've passed on TO,we failed to get guys like Boldin,Marshall and S.Holmes....Does the team have an urgency here or fine with what they have?

We obviously saw a weakness against the Cowboys granted they have a good D as well,but when all your targets are Moss or Cooley and maybe Davis....that's scares me a little,specially considering injuries these days...

A 6'5" WR with athletic ability and good on the fade routes that Armstrong failed twice on,could really help this team out.

Not only give opposing Defenses something else to worry about,but help Mcnabb out as well in the comfort level.

If we can get this guy without dropping 1st or 2nd round picks....even if it costs us multiple lower round picks including 3rds....you have to try to get this guy...imo

But I would also make sure they have a plan in place to give him a longterm extension!
We don't need another Jason Taylor scenario and watch V-Jack leave after 3/4's of a season only to go back to the chargers...lol

Know what I mean?
And we need to lock Mcnabb up as well!

The Giants won the Sb running a fade to Plexiglass,just like V-Jack could do for us...
We don't have this guys skill set of attributes on the team.

and playing teams on our schedule of the likes as G.B...Minny and the Colts...we need some more help!

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[quote=Shadowbyte;734937]If we don't make this deal I will be beyond infuriated. First we failed to get Boldin, then T.O, and lastly TJ. [B]Say what you want about Cerrato[/B]. [B]Atleast he could compelete a deal if he really wanted a player.[/B][/quote]

What are you...complimenting....Cerrato....backstabbing Vinny? What about Ochocinco, Jay Cutler, Mark Sancehz. Not that all of those deals wouldn't have been great for us, but these were guys that Vinny was offering in some cases 2 first round picks. Now lets look at the guys you've listed.

Boldin - Yeah it sucks that we missed out on him, but part of the reason we couldn't afford him was because Vinny drafted Jarmon. At that point you have to give up your second round pick to beat the Ravens offer, which in our case was used to get McNabb. Would you rather have Boldin or McNabb?

T.O. - McNabb and T.O, great that they buried the hatchet but they're not exactly friends (watch them interact on the T.O show). This would have been a ticking time bomb.

TJ - Wanted him, but the Ravens are a stable team that is projected to compete for the Super Bowl this year.

And saying that our front office can't make a deal is quite ballsy if you ask me. This is the same front office that traded for a pro bowl tackle, and snatched away a franchise QB from a division rival for chump change. They also got a solid former first round pick for a 5th rounder in Carriker and drafted a future pro bowler at LT.

And to think they did all this in one offseason. We already have two pro bowl pass catchers on the roster, do we really need a third one to win? It's week 1 of the season, and we just came out of our first week in a new offense while facing a tough Dallas defense. Once McNabb get's up to speed on the offense suddenly it will look like we're deep at receiver. At this point Vincent Jackson is a 'nice to have' not a necessity.

Now lets go eat a God damn snack.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;734941]

And to think they did all this in one offseason. We already have two pro bowl pass catchers on the roster, do we really need a third one to win? It's week 1 of the season, and we just came out of our first week in a new offense while facing a tough Dallas defense. Once McNabb get's up to speed on the offense suddenly it will look like we're deep at receiver. At this point Vincent Jackson is a 'nice to have' not a necessity.

Now lets go eat a God damn snack.[/quote]

I'm not saying everything Vinny tried I agreed with, however I did respect the level of agressiveness in which he pursued his prosects. I'm just frustrated that we've passed up on so many WR's over the years. The NFL is now a passing league, so we need to surround our franchise QB with as many weapons as possible. Especially someone who can make the tough catches in the endzone.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;734944]I'm not saying everything Vinny tried I agreed with, however I did respect the level of agressiveness in which he pursued his prosects. I'm just frustrated that we've passed up on so many WR's over the years. The NFL is now a passing league, so we need to surround our franchise QB with as many weapons as possible. Especially someone who can make the tough catches in the endzone.[/quote]

In all honesty Cooley and Davis should be able to make catches in the red zone. Like I said before it's only week 1 but we're going up against a defense that just gave up 433 passing yards (yeah I know only week 1 but blah blah blah I agree I'm a hypocrite). I think with time we'll find out that our receiving corps is much better then the general sentiment going around this past week and most of that will come from McNabb's improved handle on the offense.

And hey, worse comes to worse we find another receiver this offseason. We don't need to do everything in one offseason.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;734941]What are you...complimenting....Cerrato....backstabbing Vinny? What about Ochocinco, Jay Cutler, Mark Sancehz. Not that all of those deals wouldn't have been great for us, but these were guys that Vinny was offering in some cases 2 first round picks. Now lets look at the guys you've listed.

Boldin - Yeah it sucks that we missed out on him, but part of the reason we couldn't afford him was because Vinny drafted Jarmon. At that point you have to give up your second round pick to beat the Ravens offer, which in our case was used to get McNabb. Would you rather have Boldin or McNabb?

T.O. - McNabb and T.O, great that they buried the hatchet but they're not exactly friends (watch them interact on the T.O show). This would have been a ticking time bomb.

TJ - Wanted him, but the Ravens are a stable team that is projected to compete for the Super Bowl this year.

And saying that our front office can't make a deal is quite ballsy if you ask me. This is the same front office that traded for a pro bowl tackle, and snatched away a franchise QB from a division rival for chump change. They also got a solid former first round pick for a 5th rounder in Carriker and drafted a future pro bowler at LT.

[SIZE=4]And to think they did all this in one offseason[/SIZE]. We already have two pro bowl pass catchers on the roster, do we really need a third one to win? It's week 1 of the season, and we just came out of our first week in a new offense while facing a tough Dallas defense. Once McNabb get's up to speed on the offense suddenly it will look like we're deep at receiver. At this point Vincent Jackson is a 'nice to have' not a necessity.

Now lets go eat a God damn snack.[/quote]
........Yah....but we could've lost....if we didn't win!!!!
.......I'll be gettin' a snack

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[quote=Dirtbag359;734946]In all honesty Cooley and Davis should be able to make catches in the red zone. Like I said before it's only week 1 but we're going up against a defense that just gave up 433 passing yards (yeah I know only week 1 but blah blah blah I agree I'm a hypocrite). I think with time we'll find out that our receiving corps is much better then the general sentiment going around this past week and most of that will come from McNabb's improved handle on the offense.

And hey, worse comes to worse we find another receiver this offseason. We don't need to do everything in one offseason.[/quote]

I certainly agree that Cooley and Davis are capable of making those tough endzone catches. Unfortunately defenses are always doubling Cooley in those situations, that's why it's imperative that our WR's can make those cathces when they have 1 on 1 coverage. I do agree that everything doesn't have to be done this year, considering the fact that next years draft will be steeped with good WR prospects.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;734952]I certainly agree that Cooley and Davis are capable of making those tough endzone catches. [B]Unfortunately defenses are always doubling Cooley in those situations, that's why it's imperative that our WR's can make those cathces when they have 1 on 1 coverage.[/B] I do agree that everything doesn't have to be done this year, considering the fact that next years draft will be steeped with good WR prospects.[/quote]

I would argue that's why Davis needs to be on the field more than he was week one.

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[quote=Lotus;734961]I would argue that's why Davis needs to be on the field more than he was week one.[/quote]

I couldn't agree more. There's no way someone so talented should be relegated to riding the pine, especially in red-zone situations.

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So let me see if I got this right.....

We should let Cooley ride the pine and replace him with the talented Davis? All because Cooley gets double teamed? I would argue that Cooley is doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing. See across the board most likely someone is going to get double teamed. If Cooley is getting it then someone else should be single covered and or open, ie; Moss, Armstrong, Galloway...

But keep in mind this will happen to anyone. Moss might be double covered this week, should we replace him with R.Williams? Opponents are going to double whoever they think is McNabb's security blanket. If it's Cooley or Davis so be it. If it's Armstrong so be it.

Maybe your refering to a two TE set. We had one game. I didn't expect the HC to throw everything, his whole arsenal at Dallas so other teams can see what we can or can't do and game plan around it. Be patient. Maybe this week Davis gets the majority of the bulk.

Re: V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"
 

[quote=Mechanix544;725219][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81a0fc4f/article/disgruntled-chargers-wr-jackson-prepared-to-sit-out-season?module=HP_headlines]NFL.com news: Disgruntled Chargers WR Jackson prepared to sit out season[/url]


Does this make it more likely we can wrangle him away from the Chargers?


Does he look or sound like a character risk?

Does he look like he can step right in, and play at a high level as a #1 WR without camp, preseason, practicing, gelling with the first team, qb, etc....?

What is the maximum in players/draft picks that should be given up for this WR?

Just some questions I thought were relevant, especially if we are looking into this guy.[/quote]

Yes. This guy could walk in cold wearing flip flops and would be our #1 WR option by a mile.

I keep hearing that outside Santana Moss, the Skins don't have any weapons at Wide Receiver. The Skins don't have ANY receiving threats, period! It's not 2005. I can stab someone with my car key, but that doesn't make it a weapon.

The Skins should get Jackson and should have gotten TJ Who's your momma. It would take both of them for the Skins to have an NFL caliber Receiving corps.

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As far as the Cooley and Davis talk, we can still use both on the field at the same time with one of them lined up as a WR.

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I really hope we end up getting this guy, he'll make a huge difference to our team, and plus I'm getting tired of talking about him all the time.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;734936]All I know is how does a 2-time pro bowler who the redskins want to dump because of 3-4 scheme/workout offseason program differences only garner a 3rd as the highest and more likely a 4th or 5th...

But a 2-time Pro WR who is serving an NFL suspension for the 1st 4 games and 1 DUI away from being suspended a full NFL season be worth a whole lot [B]MORE[/B] than our guy...

fact is..he's not!
If the chargers want two 2nd round picks,then let them keep him or someone else have him...

All in all....I would not pay much more for V-Jack than what Hayneworth's value on the market currently is...

The risk is too high and he's going to want Big money...
and we only get him for 3/4 of this season,assuming he's ready and knows the offense.

No way would I trade anything more for V-Jack,than what Albert's value is...
And I'm betting that Bruce feels the same way!

having said that,he would be a huge upgrade and give us a big target for McNabb![/quote]

The problem I have if we make a deal for VJ how many picks or player would we need to get him. I would consider a 3rd pick but I dont think we have 1 due to the McNabb trade. So I would give up our 2012 3rd pick, but not a 2nd rd pick. If we did get VJ he then would want to get a new contract and we know how that normally goes for us when we pay players big money. I say we offer a 3rd or 4th rd pick and thats it. VJ has been suspended by the league for his off the field conduct so that is a red flag in it's self. I rather ride out this season with the wr corp we have and find a wr via draft or free agenency. Good coaches find a way to use their players strength to help the team. DT is our most athletic WR so why not get him the ball with quick wr screens and some wr reverses. DT has to much ability not to be playing I do believe when he gets his turn he will make plays.
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[quote=CultBrennan59;734993]I really hope we end up getting this guy, he'll make a huge difference to our team, and plus I'm getting tired of talking to him all the time.[/quote]

So I take it you know Vincent Jackson personally. What do you guys talk about?

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IMHO, Cooley, Davis, and DT should all be on the field when we're throwing the ball in the Red Zone. Big guys with strong hands.

I really hate to see that some people here are ready to declare DT a bust. I understand, but I just can't bring myself to believe that he might not make it. He has [U]way[/U] too much talent not to make it. His physical gifts are exceptional. When he was drafted, we knew that he hadn't played much football at a high level and that it would take time for him to develop. In my mind, when I think of DT of think of the fact that Art Monk didn't break out until his 4th season. Art was a RB in college, so it took him awhile to learn the WR position.

I stiil have high hopes for DT. If he works anywhere near as hard as Art Monk did, then I think he will succeed in the NFL. Here's an idea: the Skins should explore the possibility of Art becoming a mentor for DT.

As for VJ, I think he could make a big contribution to this team but I don't think we're likely to trade for him.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;734996]IMHO, Cooley, Davis, and DT should all be on the field when we're throwing the ball in the Red Zone. Big guys with strong hands.

I really hate to see that some people here are ready to declare DT a bust. I understand, but I just can't bring myself to believe that he might not make it. He has [U]way[/U] too much talent not to make it. His physical gifts are exceptional. When he was drafted, we knew that he hadn't played much football at a high level and that it would take time for him to develop. In my mind, when I think of DT of think of the fact that Art Monk didn't break out until his 4th season. Art was a RB in college, so it took him awhile to learn the WR position.

I stiil have high hopes for DT. If he works anywhere near as hard as Art Monk did, then I think he will succeed in the NFL. Here's an idea: the Skins should explore the possibility of Art becoming a mentor for DT.

As for VJ, I think he could make a big contribution to this team but I don't think we're likely to trade for him.[/quote]

Hypothetically Devin Thomas should be perfect for that Wide Receiver/Running Back role I was talking about last week . Where you set up your Receiver with short passes and count on him to get tough yards (not to be confused with using Devin to run the ball in spite of his past success on reverses). He's also capable of getting deep thanks to his speed. However I have two concerns.

1. He was amazing on kick returns last week and in an era where the wedge is illegal thats hard to find. I've never seen someone who could be successful at kick returning and offense at the same time on a consistent basis. 99 times out of 100 one of those areas is going to take a hit.

2. Are his hands and route running up to speed. All the physical talent in the world can't make up for not having these two areas handled. If he can't do this he'll be just as effective as Galloway was last week.

Of course some people are taking Devin's inability to break the starting lineup a little to seriously.

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I read somewhere the trade deadline is sept 22nd for VJ? Guess we'll see what happens tonight.. In their second game against a defense that gave up over 400 yards of passing last week. That's two weeks since McNabb got back from his injury, one more week for the offensive line to gel together (despite a weird rotating system), and one more week for the guys to learn the offense.

So today, IF DT starts actually playing, if F.Davis gets into the mix, if Armstrong becomes a stud, if Galloway - no, he's probably done.. --- if all that happens maybe we're in better shape than we thought. If we don't do well this week, perhaps that's when we make a push for VJ.

Come McNabb - start making our WRs look better than they are.

5.5 hours to go.

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[quote=SBXVII;734978]So let me see if I got this right.....

We should let Cooley ride the pine and replace him with the talented Davis? All because Cooley gets double teamed? I would argue that Cooley is doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing. See across the board most likely someone is going to get double teamed. If Cooley is getting it then someone else should be single covered and or open, ie; Moss, Armstrong, Galloway...

But keep in mind this will happen to anyone. Moss might be double covered this week, should we replace him with R.Williams? Opponents are going to double whoever they think is McNabb's security blanket. If it's Cooley or Davis so be it. If it's Armstrong so be it.

Maybe your refering to a two TE set. We had one game. I didn't expect the HC to throw everything, his whole arsenal at Dallas so other teams can see what we can or can't do and game plan around it. Be patient. Maybe this week Davis gets the majority of the bulk.[/quote]

No one is talking about benching Cooley. Both Cooley and Davis should be on the field. Cooley and Davis are two of our three best receivers. There is no reason to hide this "arsenal," as it is the only arsenal we have. Both Cooley and Davis should be on the field, either in a 2 TE set or with one of them split wide.

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[quote=SBXVII;734978]So let me see if I got this right.....

We should let Cooley ride the pine and replace him with the talented Davis? All because Cooley gets double teamed? I would argue that Cooley is doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing. See across the board most likely someone is going to get double teamed. If Cooley is getting it then someone else should be single covered and or open, ie; Moss, Armstrong, Galloway...[/quote]

I never said Cooley should ride the pine because he gets double teamed. When I brought up the fact that Cooley gets doubled, I was stressing that our WR's need to make the plays whenever they have the luxury of 1 on 1 coverage, especially in the red-zone. As for Fred Davis, he should be utilized more period. The Patriots are an excellent example of a team who gives both of their talented TE's chances to make plays.

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I can't remember the last time we had a thread last this long for a guy who isn't even on the skins roster ... That being said, word is that Jackson will be a Viking Soon, heard it this morning on espn radio.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;734995]So I take it you know Vincent Jackson personally. What do you guys talk about?[/quote]

I edited it, misspoke...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;735046]I edited it, misspoke...[/quote]

I'm just messing with u CB59

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[quote=skinsfaninok;735042][B]I can't remember the last time we had a thread last this long for a guy who isn't even on the skins roster[/B] ... That being said, word is that Jackson will be a Viking Soon, heard it this morning on espn radio.[/quote]

Did you see the recent Jason Campbell thread? :)

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Thanks but no thanks. We have a QB now, we don't need to cover up our passing game with big name receivers.

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nah what we need is a running game to close games out

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;735993]nah what we need is a running game to close games out[/quote]

We also need Kareem Moore to come back. That TD pass to Andre Johnson probably doesn't happen with Moore.

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I don't know if there's a player on this roster that would have been able to defend Johnson on that particular play. It was an all or nothing play for Houston: Find your best guy, throw a jump-ball to him, and hope he comes down with the ball -- it worked.

Only Darrell Green or Sean Taylor might have been able to break up that pass. I'm trying to remember what Kareem Moore has done to make people so confident everything will be fine once he's back.

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[quote=Beemnseven;736231]I don't know if there's a player on this roster that would have been able to defend Johnson on that particular play. It was an all or nothing play for Houston: Find your best guy, throw a jump-ball to him, and hope he comes down with the ball -- it worked.

Only Darrell Green or Sean Taylor might have been able to break up that pass. I'm trying to remember what Kareem Moore has done to make people so confident everything will be fine once he's back.[/quote]

I think in that situation, D. Green would not have been able to overcome his size disadvantage. He also wouldn't have been playing safety in the first place.

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[quote=Beemnseven;736231]I don't know if there's a player on this roster that would have been able to defend Johnson on that particular play. It was an all or nothing play for Houston: Find your best guy, throw a jump-ball to him, and hope he comes down with the ball -- it worked.

Only Darrell Green or Sean Taylor might have been able to break up that pass. I'm trying to remember what Kareem Moore has done to make people so confident everything will be fine once he's back.[/quote]

Sean Taylor would have stared at Andre Johnson during that play which would have resulted in Andre Johnson being unable to move.

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To me it depends on Williams. If he comes back in a relatively short period of time, I say we find a way to make this work.

If Williams is done, forget it.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;736245]To me it depends on Williams. If he comes back in a relatively short period of time, I say we find a way to make this work.

If Williams is done, forget it.[/quote]

I don't know. VJax is a deep threat. Deep threats are useless when their QB doesn't have time to throw. We can obviously get by with Brown at LT, in fact he might even represent an upgrade at this point, but the difference in the amount of time McNabb had to throw was night and day when between Trent was playing and after he went out.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;736276]I don't know. VJax is a deep threat. Deep threats are useless when their QB doesn't have time to throw. We can obviously get by with Brown at LT, in fact he might even represent an upgrade at this point, but the difference in the amount of time McNabb had to throw was night and day when between Trent was playing and after he went out.[/quote]

That was my point. If Williams is out, there is no reason to go after V-Jack.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;736379]That was my point. If Williams is out, there is no reason to go after V-Jack.[/quote]

Sorry, my bad. I was still fuming mad after the loss so I didn't read your post as closely as I should have.

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It's funny that as much as the term "football shape" was on Redskins news, people are not concerned about the toll that Jackson's hold out has on his "football shape". Case in point, Darrelle Revis, probably the best CB in the league, seems to have been sidelined by a hamstring injury. Many speculate that Revis' issues may stem from not being at camp and getting his body in football shape.

After tonight's massive air attack, I don't think we have much of a WR issue. Definitely not worth paying the price that it will cost to get this guy. So I think this issue is pretty much dead.

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Is it time to start a "trade for Marcus McNeill" thread?
He's also their other Holdout and we have no idea how long trent is gone for...

Would you give them our 1st rounder for both McNeil and Jackson? lol
crazy I know...lol

This weekend is going to be interesting..(or before wednesday deadline)
Specially since the Vikings are looking bad now..I think they may throw all their chips on the table for jackson...

We shall see

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[quote=aceinthehouse;736389]Is it time to start a "trade for Marcus McNeill" thread?
He's also their other Holdout and we have no idea how long trent is gone for...

Would you give them our 1st rounder for both McNeil and Jackson? lol
crazy I know...lol

This weekend is going to be interesting..(or before wednesday deadline)
Specially since the Vikings are looking bad now..I think they may throw all their chips on the table for jackson...

We shall see[/quote]

Yah, wouldn't McNeil be the highest paid backup LT ever?