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I don't know how to feel about Va Tech. Somedays they make you say "What the f*ck is this sh*t?" then other days it s like where was this when you were playing BSU and JMU? But I give it up for them not bending over after the loss to JMU.

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[quote=mooby;765056]Yeah, just heard that UConn won and split the Big East with WV, but UConn won the automatic BCS bowl bid for the Big East, so I think it's gonna be VT-Stanford for the Orange Bowl. I knew that WV won but not UConn until a few minutes ago, and I knew that WV was dependant on UConn losing to win the Big East outright and getting that automatic bid.

So it's down to UConn or Stanford against VT in the Orange Bowl, and no disrespect to UConn which has won 5 straight, but I'd rather see Stanford. UConn has a severely one-dimensional offensive attack and I'd just like the stiffer competition to see if VT can proudly represent the ACC in the BCS.[/quote]

unfortunatly i have to agree with you, as a big east fan and wvu fan it's gonna suck to watch uconn get blown the f out by whomever they play. like i said before hopefully stewart is gone and wvu will get a legit ncaa coach. they have a ton of talent they just don't always show it on gameday. wvu had the big east locked up and they shit the bed as they have the past few years, kinda reminds me of a nfl team i root for. with the addition of tcu next year hopefully they will add some vadlidation to the big least

as for cam, i was half joking when i said we should draft him and halfway gone, last night was a good one, but he does have that "it" factor that you can't coach or teach. i don't understand why you would veiw him as a punk, if anything he has learned from his mistakes and is moving forward. he had some mistakes at fla but we all make mistakes in our life espescially when we are 18. he isn't running his mouth or trash talking all he does is let his play speak for itself and how can you watch the kid play and not root for him. he just looks like he is playing backyard ball out there and having a blast doing it. it's gonna be very interestign to see where he ends up in the nfl and like gm said the championship game is gonna be a real treat. it has all the making to be usc vs texas part two, and that game was probably one if the best college games i have ever seen.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;765067]I don't know how to feel about Va Tech. Somedays they make you say "What the f*ck is this sh*t?" then other days it s like where was this when you were playing BSU and JMU? But I give it up for them not bending over after the loss to JMU.[/quote]

It depends on how you feel about losses at the beginning of the season vs. the end. Which defines your team more how you start or finish. I think Tech is a good team...i dont think they are a top 5 team, they dont have the defense to be considered that high. Anywhere between 6-15 I think you could make an arguement for...being in the ACC doesnt help their case.

I know how I feel about Auburn vs Oregon. Auburn is playing the best football in the country, SEC wins the championship again, Cam is too good and the best player in the country period. But go ahead and get an * ready for the history books.

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[quote=Chico23231;765061]Still woulda been the same result. Tech got way to much for FSU. EJ Manuel is gonna be the best QB in Florida for awhile.[/quote]

Which is why he's been on the bench behind Ponder. LOL. You should stick to the pros. Clearly you don't know a whole lot about the "amateur" game.

You haven't even heard of [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/recruiting/player/_/id/84800/jeff-driskel"]Jeff Driskel[/URL], have you?

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[quote=Angry;765060]I disagree. I believe that the young guy gave them a better chance to win. I've watched Ponder the last three weeks leading up to this game and he would have been worse off. Obviously the FSU coaching staff agreed with me by not starting him.

GM, it just seems like you cannot stop hatin on VA Tech. I gave it up for Florida the past few years. Face it, VA Tech wins year in and year out and this year they beat an FSU team that beat the pants off of Florida.[/quote]

First of all, full disclosure, Florida had an awful year. They're in rebuilding mode for sure. I think they can win the SEC East next year, but they won't be a title contender again until 2012 given how young they are on both sides of the ball.

Ponder has had elbow problems during the second half of the season, and just had it drained a few days before the game. Manuel gave them a better chance to win this week because Ponder couldn't throw without excruciating pain.

Since the James Madison loss, Va Tech has played really, really well. I don't hate them at all. But I think the ACC (and Big East) sucks something awful this year, so that plays a big part of their success. Va Tech wins year in and year out, sure. But they just can't seem to sniff the big one, despite being talked about pretty much perennially as a title contender. That was my only point. Not hating.

They're most likely gonna play Stanford in the Orange Bowl. That will be a nice game.

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[quote=Chico23231;765062]South Carolina represent the SEC east well, that whole division was god aweful this year[/quote]

SEC West had their way this year, East was down for sure. Either way, your Boise State love affair got shit on, and when Auburn puts it on Oregon, it will be yet another year where the national title resides in college football's best, most physical, athletic conference. Hands down.

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[quote=GMScud;765741]First of all, full disclosure, Florida had an awful year. They're in rebuilding mode for sure. I think they can win the SEC East next year, but they won't be a title contender again until 2012 given how young they are on both sides of the ball.

Ponder has had elbow problems during the second half of the season, and just had it drained a few days before the game. Manuel gave them a better chance to win this week because Ponder couldn't throw without excruciating pain.

Since the James Madison loss, Va Tech has played really, really well. I don't hate them at all. But I think the ACC (and Big East) sucks something awful this year, so that plays a big part of their success. Va Tech wins year in and year out, sure. But they just can't seem to sniff the big one, despite being talked about pretty much perennially as a title contender. That was my only point. Not hating.

They're most likely gonna play Stanford in the Orange Bowl. That will be a nice game.[/quote]

I can definitely agree with you about VT being called a title contender going into every year, but never getting to the big game. I thought our best shot would've been this year had they not lost their first two, but once again this team showed resolve. In past seasons they had gotten off to hot starts only to lose a couple along the way, and in 2008/09 they rebounded to win the ACC, but this season was definitely unlike any other.

The way they played against Boise State, and then the way they played against JMU made me think we just wouldn't be able to overcome the losses we had suffered after '09, but once again they refused to let it get them down and now they have rebounded to win 11 straight. Now they obviously aren't a title contender but I will be happy if they can continue to represent the ACC by winning their bowl games. I'd rather be the Orange Bowl winner than the Chick-Fil-A bowl winner like they were last year against Tennessee. And 7 straight seasons of 10 or more wins shows that they've been consistent even through turbulent times. I hope we can get into the championship game discussion someday but I think it would take an undefeated season to make that happen.

And yes I agree the Big East does suck something awful this year. WV has a choking problem MLMDUB, but unlike a certain NFL team we both root for, at least they win enough games that puts them into position to choke, whereas the Redskins just have not played good football since the first half of the '08 season. That's not choking, that's just being bad. I'm getting off track here though.

As for Ponder being out, sure it might've helped, but it wasn't like Manuel played so bad. The picks obviously didn't help, but who knows, with the injury problems Ponder has had who's to say he would've done any better? At least Florida State had a nice rebound season.

And I'm quite happy and definitely looking forward to watching VT play Stanford in the Orange Bowl. I think they will be ready for this test, whereas I don't think they were ready for Boise State in the first game of the season.

And MLMDUB, as for Cam Newton I don't think he's a bad football player, he's the opposite actually. The kid is awesome on the field, and that's undeniable, I just think that he tends to take his success for granted, and I do believe he knew what his pops was doing when he tried to extort money in exchange for his son's commitment. His pops just set it up so that if their cover was blown Cam Newton wouldn't take any heat from the NCAA. And he doesn't exactly have a positive track record, it's not like he decided to leave Florida because they didn't give him pt behind Tim "Jesus of Florida" Tebow.

As for the title game this will def. be interesting to watch. Give me 2 teams who have never been before over a consistently top 5 team like Ohio State or USC of past years. I think Auburn wins in the end, simply because they are the better team (and I think Cam Newton will make a bigger difference than LaMichael James) and the SEC is obviously the premier conference.

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Urban Meyer done in Florida. Gators are fcked. Maybe he has been to the top and he realized there's no where to go but down?

GScud, do I still have to wait for time to be proven right?

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Kinda sucks if it is due to health reasons. Seems way too uptight and pissed off all the time, hopefully he can get straight, relax and come back. bit of an egomanic, but effing great coach...like to see him back soon

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The Denver Broncos need a coach, Tim Tebow needs someone who believes in him, Urban Meyer needs a team. Brilliant!

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[quote=Angry;766879]The Denver Broncos need a coach, Tim Tebow needs someone who believes in him, Urban Meyer needs a team. Brilliant![/quote]

If he is this stressed and having health issues in college ball, he probably die at the next level

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The last time that he took a break it was because of health reasons. No one knows why he left this time yet. If it is for health reasons the the timing could not be more messed up. 2 Days after Josh McDaniels was fired...seriously? Why not wait until after the bowl season or until the Broncos had filled their position? He cannot be doing much right now the season is over.

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[quote=Chico23231;766881]If he is this stressed and having health issues in college ball, he probably die at the next level[/quote]


I think the college level is more stressful when you factor in recuirting and traveling around the country trying to get players, just a guess on my part.

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[quote=mredskins;766890]I think the college level is more stressful when you factor in recuirting and traveling around the country trying to get players, just a guess on my part.[/quote]

maybe if you ok with preforming like Spurrier did with the Skins. Where does he have to travel too for recruiting? Good lord he is centrally located in the best recruiting area in the country. The state of Florida is the mecca of talent, thats why .500 or below from any of the big 3 in that state is complete fail. That program was long built b4 he got there, he can pull top 5 recruits from any state without traveling as well just based on the tradition of that school over the last twenty years.

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[quote=Chico23231;766892]maybe if you ok with preforming like Spurrier did with the Skins. Where does he have to travel too for recruiting? Good lord he is centrally located in the best recruiting area in the country. The state of Florida is the mecca of talent, thats why .500 or below from any of the big 3 in that state is complete fail. That program was long built b4 he got there, he can pull top 5 recruits from any state without traveling as well just based on the tradition of that school over the last twenty years.[/quote]


Here is the story that sparked my comment.

[url=http://m.si.com/news/to/to/detail/2242333;.cnnsi2b]Andy Staples: College football head coach: the most dangerous job in sports[/url]

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[quote=Angry;766879]The Denver Broncos need a coach, Tim Tebow needs someone who believes in him, Urban Meyer needs a team. Brilliant![/quote]

No, you are brilliant...lol.

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[quote=mredskins;766898]Here is the story that sparked my comment.

[url=http://m.si.com/news/to/to/detail/2242333;.cnnsi2b]Andy Staples: College football head coach: the most dangerous job in sports[/url][/quote]

"But in any other business, a CEO of a company that size wouldn't have to answer to as many shareholders (fans, boosters) and wouldn't face around-the-clock media coverage and analysis of every decision. In fact, most Fortune 500 CEOs don't get scrutinized nearly as much as Michigan's Rich Rodriguez or Florida's Meyer. Imagine if the CEO of Ford was taken to task in the media because one of the managers on an assembly line was arrested for disorderly conduct"

Thats a good prespective...crazy. Good article, I understanding Urban leaving...hopefully its more of a temporary thing than permenent. These guys cant and dont want to do anything else...I think it was funny how Shanny reportly rented an office and just studied football in his year off...Urban is gonna be back

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[quote=mredskins;766890]I think the college level is more stressful when you factor in recuirting and traveling around the country trying to get players, just a guess on my part.[/quote]

oh yeah try telling that to the ole ball coach, i'd bet he tells you different.

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[quote=saden1;766874]Urban Meyer done in Florida. Gators are fcked. Maybe he has been to the top and he realized there's no where to go but down?

GScud, do I still have to wait for time to be proven right?[/quote]

Proven right about what?

I'm really bummed to see Urban go, obviously. But I sure as hell wouldn't say Florida is ****ed. We'll score a big-time coach no doubt.

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[quote=Chico23231;766881]If he is this stressed and having health issues in college ball, he probably die at the next level[/quote]

Do I hear a case for 25 games? Imagine all the media coverage! "Coach dies mid-season!" The tickets practically sell themselves.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;766951]Do I hear a case for 25 games? Imagine all the media coverage! "Coach dies mid-season!" The tickets practically sell themselves.[/quote]

whats it gonna be 25 or 30?

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[quote=mlmdub130;766957]whats it gonna be 25 or 30?[/quote]

Well the players union keeps telling me to compromise shortly after their usual GFYS comments but when I see all the potential money we can make I can't help but see Dollar $ign$! You know what, I feel inspired 41 games! People will be curious, like 'why aren't they using an even number.' And with the added buzz we can charge more for ads.

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Side note- Urban Meyer is 46 years old... and he has produced 10, count 'em, 10, head coaches during his tenure as head coach. Pretty nice coaching tree. I'll miss ya Urban. You're the effing man.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=5900096]Urban Meyer retiring from Florida Gators is still a stunner - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;766950]Proven right about what?

I'm really bummed to see Urban go, obviously. But I sure as hell wouldn't say Florida is ****ed. We'll score a big-time coach no doubt.[/quote]

You're the next Miami....that's how the cookie will crumble. Now if you can get the staff of Boise State you could be the shit once again in a few years. Regardless, next year will be a tough year and the Gamecocks win the East.

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[quote=saden1;766980]You're the next Miami....that's how the cookie will crumble. Now if you can get the staff of Boise State you could be the shit once again in a few years. Regardless, next year will be a tough year and the Gamecocks win the East.[/quote]

Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we got Dan Mullen back from Miss St. That would keep our system and a chunk of our assistants in place. We won't fall too far, despite what all the haters hope.

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Any chance that Spurrier dumps the Cocks and goes back to Florida? I understand if he doesn't want to rub the Cocks the wrong way, but wouldn't Meyers's absence make his interest rise a little?

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[quote=Angry;767045]Any chance that Spurrier dumps the Cocks and goes back to Florida? I understand if he doesn't want to rub the Cocks wrong way, but wouldn't Meyers absence make his interest rise a little?[/quote]

I doubt that happens. Spurrier is pushing 70 years old. I have full confidence in Jeremy Foley. I think he's close to, if not the best Athletic Director in the country. He'll get a solid, younger replacement (my fingers are crossed for Dan Mullen).

I'd also be happy with Bo Pelini or Jim Harbaugh, or even Chris Peterson if he ever leaves Boise State. I also wonder if Gary Patterson would consider leaving TCU....

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Shit, age hasn't stopped Joe Paterno. Though I consider him more like a figure head these days. I doubt that Spurrier goes back but it would make one helluva story a la Joe Gibbs.

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I'll definitely take Will Muschamp. Really solid hire. Great recruiter, knows the SEC well, only 39, and lived in Gainesville for 10 years as a kid. I'd rather have Urban of course, but I'm very happy with this hire for my alma mater.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5910011]Florida Gators hires Texas defensive coordinator Will Muschamp - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Angry;767045]Any chance that Spurrier dumps the Cocks and goes back to Florida? [B][I][U]I understand if he doesn't want to rub the Cocks the wrong way[/U][/I][/B], but wouldn't Meyers's absence make his interest rise a little?[/quote]

:laughing2

this on the other hand isn't very funny, i don't know who is worse the ncaa or goodell

[url=http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/23/5-ohio-state-football-players-suspended/]Terrelle Pryor, 5 other Ohio State football players suspended – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs[/url]

gotta love the last line

[quote]The student-athletes will be eligible to play in the AllState Sugar Bowl on January 4 against the Arkansas Razorbacks, the university said.

[/quote]

ncaa is a joke, hopefully one day they can figure something out cause this "they get a free education" crap is bs

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LOL @ the Gamecocks....SEC getting owned by ACC and everyone else. I can't wait to see the Ducks shit on the Tigers.

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[quote=saden1;773636]LOL @ the Gamecocks....SEC getting owned by ACC and everyone else. I can't wait to see the Ducks shit on the Tigers.[/quote]

Georgia and Bama were the bottom feeders of the conference this year and they lost by a combined 7 points. Hardly "owned." FSU is a good ball club, and that's a good game right now with some time left. How can you say the ACC is owning the SEC? Because of one game that isn't even over? Lol @ you.

Auburn, LSU, and Bama all have yet to play. And expect Florida to smack Penn St. Don't get too excited yet.

I think Auburn beats up Oregon.

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Georgia should be ashamed. Thats why: good coaching>recruiting...always.

Hats off to Jimbo Fisher first season, FSU is gonna be back sooner than later with Bowden steppin down.

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UGA just isnt that good. They lost to Colorado.

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[quote=GMScud;773647]Georgia and Bama were the bottom feeders of the conference this year and they lost by a combined 7 points. Hardly "owned." FSU is a good ball club, and that's a good game right now with some time left. How can you say the ACC is owning the SEC? Because of one game that isn't even over? Lol @ you.

Auburn, LSU, and Bama all have yet to play. And expect Florida to smack Penn St. Don't get too excited yet.

I think Auburn beats up Oregon.[/quote]

For someone who touts the SEC and takes a dump on other conferences you sure do make a lot of excuses. What are they in bowl games now? 0-3? FSU thumped what? Two SEC teams in a row?

I'm 99% sure the Gators won't beat PSU.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;773654]UGA just isnt that good. They lost to Colorado.[/quote]

UGA should be good with the talent on that team period. No excuses to lose to UCF

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The line up today is garbage . Maybe TCU / Wisconson ends up being a great game , most of the games look about as exiting as the Panthers vs buffulo . Im not saying that some of the games won't be exciting , I just think we could have had a better line up .Happy new year WP .

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[quote=GMScud;773647]Georgia and Bama were the bottom feeders of the conference this year and they lost by a combined 7 points. Hardly "owned." FSU is a good ball club, and that's a good game right now with some time left. How can you say the ACC is owning the SEC? Because of one game that isn't even over? Lol @ you.

[B]Auburn, LSU, and Bama all have yet to play. And expect Florida to smack Penn St. Don't get too excited yet. [/B]I think Auburn beats up Oregon.[/quote]

I think the SEC wins all those...Florida vs Penn State is gonna be an ugly game, I think Florida pulls away in the second half

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[quote=Chico23231;773671]UGA should be good with the talent on that team period. No excuses to lose to UCF[/quote]

AJ Green and a decent QB. UGA stinks plain and simple.

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[quote=Chico23231;773694]I think the SEC wins all those...Florida vs Penn State is gonna be an ugly game, I think Florida pulls away in the second half[/quote]

I forgot about Miss St vs. Michigan. I expect Dan Mullen and Co to end Rich Rod's tenure in Ann Arbor in that one.