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[quote=The Goat;819395]Is there any discussion of him moving inside?[/quote]

3-4 ILBs are like 4-3 MLBs.

3-4 OLBs are essentially standing pass rushers who have to a little linebacking.

Using Kerrigan as a 3-4 ILB would be equivalent to trying Rak at 4-3 OLB, which we did in 2008.

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Roy Helu pushing for starting job

[url=http://proplayerinsiders.com/roy-helu-pushing-for-starting-job/]Roy Helu pushing for starting job | Pro Player Insiders[/url] I hope Royster is in the mix also

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[quote=Eriwar;819427]Roy Helu pushing for starting job

[url=http://proplayerinsiders.com/roy-helu-pushing-for-starting-job/]Roy Helu pushing for starting job*|*Pro Player Insiders[/url] I hope Royster is in the mix also[/quote]

Speed back starting in 8 games against 3-4 defenses. Not on my watch. Then again Chris Johnson runs well against anyone. Good thing theres such a back to compare Helu to.

[quote=The Goat;819395]Is there any discussion of him moving inside?[/quote]

Have you ever played in a 3-4 defense man? SCP is dead on. Better way to think of a 3-4 is more like that of a 5-2.

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don't think torain will get it.he's injured already.i don't like the way kerrigan's knee is starting to give him problems either.

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[quote=tomsawyer;819430]don't think torain will get it.he's injured already.i don't like the way kerrigan's knee is starting to give him problems either.[/quote]

Everyone gets hurt in camp. These same injuries take place during the regular season. Only difference is a bunch of fans aren't around to witness it.

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I don't think it matters who the starter is, we all know MS is gonna rotate these guys in and out, but I love that this guy is going hard as a 4th round pick.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/ryan-clark-goodells-disciplinary-power-will-hold-up-cba-ratification/]Ryan Clark: Goodell’s disciplinary power will hold up CBA ratification | ProFootballTalk[/url]

So it sounds like if the CBA isnt ratified FA's still wont be able to practice tomorrow? Anyone know whats up?

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A good recap from today's practice by Rich Campbell....

[url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2011/aug/3/practice-observations-and-analysis-83/[/url]

I found this interesting...

"Let’s make it a receivers hat trick: Malcolm Kelly worked as the third receiver during situational drills late in practice. Anthony Armstrong and Jabar Gaffney were the top two.

Kelly has run well so far, and he appears polished and confident compared to the rookie receivers. That said, this effectively is his first year in the offense because he missed all of last year. He attended meetings all last season, but this is his first extended opportunity to practice running plays. The fact he doesn’t play special teams is a disadvantage in his attempt to make the roster, so standing out in the passing game during the preseason is an absolute must."

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[quote=Mattyk;819295]He's beating up the starters.[/quote]

I knew we should have gone after more OL! Dang! He's beating all of em up!
:bdh:

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Good write up on Jenkins...

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2011/08/03/jarvis-jenkins-impressing-at-camp/]Jarvis Jenkins Impressing at Camp « CBS Washington[/url]

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Whats the latest on Kerrigan?
Anyone?

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[quote=Ruhskins;819492]Good write up on Jenkins...

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2011/08/03/jarvis-jenkins-impressing-at-camp/]Jarvis Jenkins Impressing at Camp « CBS Washington[/url][/quote]

It's going to be hard to keep this guy off the field if he continues his strong play against starters in preseason.

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[quote=mooby;819381]I like Torain and all but if he can't stay healthy there won't be a spot for him on the roster.[/quote]

Helmets are hard

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[quote=mooby;819496]It's going to be hard to keep this guy off the field if he continues his strong play against starters in preseason.[/quote]

I hope that remains true. Being circumspect, what has happened so far are essentially OTA's disguised as camp. Let's see what happens once pads are on.

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[quote=mooby;819496]It's going to be hard to keep this guy off the field if he continues his strong play against starters in preseason.[/quote]

Man, does it feel good to know that we actually have quality depth at a position or what? We might have 4 quality 3-4 DEs on the roster.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;819511]Man, does it feel good to know that we actually have quality depth at a position or what? We might have 4 quality 3-4 DEs on the roster.[/quote]

And I'm sure Haslett is going to rotate those guys a lot and/or have a couple of 4-3 looks every now and then.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;819511]Man, does it feel good to know that we actually have quality depth at a position or what? We might have 4 quality 3-4 DEs on the roster.[/quote]

what a difference a year makes

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[quote=mooby;819404]Why would you move your other bookend pass rushing lb inside? We drafted Kerrigan to rush the passer. Not exactly an ILB's responsibility in a 3-4.[/quote]

This I know. Still Kerrigan's speed isn't impressive from the video I watched...on the other hand all reports say he's unbelievably strong so maybe he can be a bull rush type edge rusher.

The "tweeners" always make me nervous as far as making the transition...I would like to think this guy is very versatile tho.

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Not good for Torain if he misses the rest of the preseason. I don't think he'd get cut because Shanahan's a fan but let's hope he doesn't miss so much time

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Torain rides the injury train.

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2011/aug/3/rb-ryan-torain-see-hand-specialist/]RB Ryan Torain to see hand specialist - Washington Times[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;819586]Not good for Torain if he misses the rest of the preseason. I don't think he'd get cut because Shanahan's a fan but let's hope he doesn't miss so much time[/quote]

Did he break something?

Dude is about ready to join M Kelly on the Mr. Glass All Stars.

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Get ready for the Horde of Hightower-Helu

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Hooray for quality depth!

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[quote=tryfuhl;819601]Get ready for the Horde of Hightower-Helu[/quote]

Just say Helu to Hightower....

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[quote=wilsowilso;819599]Did he break something?

Dude is about ready to join M Kelly on the Mr. Glass All Stars.[/quote]

Or Kelly passed off his "curse" to Torain.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;819612]Or Kelly passed off his "curse" to Torain.[/quote]

Torain had it in Denver too

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[quote=mooby;819496]It's going to be hard to keep this guy off the field if he continues his strong play against starters in preseason.[/quote]

Jarvis impressed me on college tape too. Bowen should be backing him up. I'll stop right there.

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Revised training camp schedule

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/training-camp/schedule.html]Redskins.com | Training Camp Schedule[/url]

It's interesting to note that several teams, not the Skins at this point, have moved their afternoon practice tomorrow to after 4pm

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[quote=SmootSmack;819668]Revised training camp schedule

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/training-camp/schedule.html]Redskins.com | Training Camp Schedule[/url]

It's interesting to note that several teams, not the Skins at this point, have moved their afternoon practice tomorrow to after 4pm[/quote]

In anticipation of CBA ratification>new league year start>free agents can practice I assume.

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[quote=SmootSmack;819668]Revised training camp schedule

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/training-camp/schedule.html]Redskins.com | Training Camp Schedule[/url]

It's interesting to note that several teams, not the Skins at this point, have moved their afternoon practice tomorrow to after 4pm[/quote]

The skins did about an hour ago...830a is open walk-through and 4p is now open practice

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[quote=FRPLG;819685]In anticipation of CBA ratification>new league year start>free agents can practice I assume.[/quote]

I'm sure that's what it is. I mean today was what, essentially the 5th day of OTA's under the guise of "training camp?"

One thing that will be interesting is to see how sloppy pre-season/early regular season play is league-wide. The lack of preparation due to the lockout combined with all the new practice restrictions are sure to hold teams back as far as fluidity on both sides of the ball.

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[quote=tryfuhl;819686]The skins did about an hour ago...830a is open walk-through and 4p is now open practice[/quote]

Shoot, meant to write including the Skins at this point

And yes it's definitely about the potential CBA ratification

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[quote=SmootSmack;819689]Shoot, meant to write including the Skins at this point

And yes it's definitely about the potential CBA ratification[/quote]

Does it look like they'll get it done?

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I think so. Guess the Steelers players were raising a stink about the player conduct policy, but not sure that will go anywhere

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Update on the Eagles' Mike Patterson....

"Adam Schefter
SalPal reports Mike Patterson has brain AVM (arteriovenous malformation), a tangle of blood vessels in skull; requires surgery or radiation."

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That sounds very scary

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Man this sucks for the Lions....

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Why-Fairleys-injury-could-derail-his-development.html]Why Fairley's injury could derail his development | National Football Post[/url]

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SO I guess Beck and Kelly weren't really just trying to mess with people's heads...Beck actually took over #12.

[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2011/08/03/new-names-new-numbers-same-faces/]The Redskins Blog | New Names, New Numbers, Same Faces[/url]

Although reading that article feels like I'm on the Onion...I'm not sure if I should be believing it or not.

[IMG]http://nflredskins.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ap110803019832-e1312414042360.jpg?w=620&h=426[/IMG]

[QUOTE]Nicknames and initials are usually used when you have a complicated name. Eventually though, you earn the right to be called what you want, and that’s exactly what two “new” Redskins have done.

OJ Atogwe has alerted the team and the media that he will no longer be called OJ. He would prefer his give name, Oshiomogho. Which is fine, considering his middle name is Isaac.

“Oshiomogho” is harder to work into a cheer though.

In other news, the Redskins signed back free agent linebacker HB Blades, but he is no longer HB. He is also going by his given name, which is Horatio. Horatio Blades. Horatio Benedict Blades, Jr., to be exact.

He already had one of the coolest names in all of football, but when you add in “Horatio” to the last name of “Blades,” he sound like a super-hero. Expectations just went up for you, Horatio.

On a seemingly clerical note, John Beck has changed his jersey number to 12.

But here’s the skinny on No. 12:

Ten out of the first 14 Super Bowl winning quarterbacks were No. 12. The greats, including Joe Namath, Terry Bradshaw, Ken Stabler, Roger Staubach, and Bob Griese all lifted the Lombardi Trophy wearing No. 12. More recently, Tom Brady and last year’s champion Aaron Rodgers are also No. 12.

And you thought it was just a clerical change in numbers.

In a corresponding move, Malcolm Kelly switched to No. 14. I guess if you want to be thrown the ball, you better defer your number to the guy throwing it.[/QUOTE]

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Well, now that he has the same number as Brady, Stabler, Bradshaw and Rogers, we are certain to be the Champs!!!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;819888]Well, now that he has the same number as Brady, Stabler, Bradshaw and Rogers, we are certain to be the Champs!!![/quote]

While a nice bit of trivia, I find it more funny that Frerotte also had #12(thus trolling our own GusFrerotte).