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[quote=los panda;892138]which one is the big mac one?[/quote]

IDK. I try not to spend my spare time analyzing comparatives between fast food restaurant chains. Just reading about the fat content makes my stomach hurt. Unfortunately, I've been eating there regularly since my wife is pregnant. ::End Tangent. Just pick one and go with it...

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lol. there weren't any hardees near me when i lived in md. there's carls jr around here but it's pointless when in-n-out is an option. i've gained 10 pounds since i've been out here, eating recklessly and having not played a down of football

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[quote=SkinzWin;892139]So who is having a meeting in the principal's office today with you SS?[/quote]

SS has been summoned to upstate NY to meet with The Ego.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;892150]SS has been summoned to upstate NY to meet with The Ego.[/quote]

I categorically deny that I promised to make GMScud a mod if he would goad Johnny5Dicky into getting banned

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[quote=SmootSmack;892156]I categorically deny that I promised to make GMScud a mod if he would goad Johnny5Dicky into getting banned[/quote]

Stick with the story you'll do fine. Deny deny deny!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;892156]I categorically deny that I promised to make GMScud a mod if he would goad Johnny5Dicky into getting banned[/quote]

:rofl:

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;892163]Stick with the story you'll do fine. Deny deny deny!![/quote]

.."de nial" just ain't a river in Egypt!
:silly:

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[quote=SmootSmack;892156]I categorically deny that I promised to make GMScud a mod if he would goad Johnny5Dicky into getting banned[/quote]

Who is Johnny5Dicky? .....nothing to see here

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I see nothing wrong with putting bounties on Warpath posters. Everybody in all the football related forums do it, none of the posters have a problem with it, and none of the people in charge have a problem with it, so to me it's not a big deal. Who cares about the legalities involved?

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[quote=skinsfan69;892087]I'm not goiing to get into a pissing contest with you over this. You've got your opinion and I've got mine.[/quote]


....all facts to the contrary.:twocents:

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[quote=mooby;892181]I see nothing wrong with putting bounties on Warpath posters. Everybody in all the football related forums do it, none of the posters have a problem with it, and none of the people in charge have a problem with it, so to me it's not a big deal. Who cares about the legalities involved?[/quote]

I used to think the same way until Smooty put a bounty on my posts. Notice I haven't been posting as regularly as I used to? I got my fingers broke man! My fingers! They're my livelihood. Doc says I'll never type the same again.

[QUOTE=Jamaican'Skin;892191]I used to think the same way until Smooty put a bounty on my posts. Notice I haven't been posting as regularly as I used to? I got my fingers broke man! My fingers! They're my livelihood. Doc says I'll never type the same again.[/QUOTE]

Psh. You knew the risks when you decided to play the game.

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[quote=Mattyk;892036]Who's to say they weren't trying to hurt him? That's the problem with all this.

If guys are being rewarded for big hits, and being rewarded even more for knocking a guy out of a game, you almost have to assume that any borderline looking play was dirty and there was intent to injure.

Not sure how you're still not seeing the problem that bounties create.[/quote]
I lost all respect for Williams and the players that went along with it. I understand players trying to make hard hits, but any player or coach promoting hurting another player, should not play or coach in the NFL. After seeing that hit against Manning, it made me sick to think that Carter or Daniels got a bonus because they hurt Manning.

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[quote=GMScud;892110]I would certainly classify someone as being hypocritical if they root for injury while watching a game and then turn around have a big issue with this bounty thing.

[B]I don't think there are too many regular posters around here who sincerely cheer for the Redskins opponents to get injured.[/quote][/B]

Not career ending or even season ending. When Dexter Manley knocked out Danny White back in 82 I cheered. If you're old enough to remember that game then I assume you did too.

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[quote=skinsfan69;892210][/B]

Not career ending or even season ending. When Dexter Manley knocked out Danny White back in 82 I cheered. If you're old enough to remember that game then I assume you did too.[/quote]arrington on aikman. i didn't cheer, but i didn't feel bad. they cheered irvin's career ender in philly

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[quote=skinsfan69;892210][/B]

Not career ending or even season ending. When Dexter Manley knocked out Danny White back in 82 I cheered. If you're old enough to remember that game then I assume you did too.[/quote]

I get stirred up every time i see that, Manley flat weeded that sob.

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[quote=los panda;892212]arrington on aikman. i didn't cheer, but i didn't feel bad. they cheered irvin's career ender in philly[/quote]

i probably cheered cause that's one of the reason we all watch football. to see a kill shot. glad aikman turned out ok but that was a legal hit and it ended aikman's career. if it wasn't lavar then someone else would've done it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;892210][/B]

Not career ending or even season ending. When Dexter Manley knocked out Danny White back in 82 I cheered. If you're old enough to remember that game then I assume you did too.[/quote]

Well I was 4 years old, so no, I don't remember that. I cheer a hard hit by a Redskins player on an opponent all the time. But if it's a hit that sends a guy to the locker room, I get no joy from that.

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No issue with cheering the hit, but cheering the injury is another thing.

Are we really still stuck on this?

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[quote=skinsfan69;892210]When Dexter Manley knocked out Danny White back in 82 I cheered. If you're old enough to remember that game then I assume you did too.[/quote]

It's one of my Top 5 Redskins plays of all-time. Does that make me a bad person??

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;892226]It's one of my Top 5 Redskins plays of all-time. Does that make me a bad person??[/quote]bad is a relative term but yes ;)

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[quote=Mattyk;892223]No issue with cheering the hit, but cheering the injury is another thing.

[B]Are we really still stuck on this?[/B][/quote]

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no embedding for that puppy. coffee black

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/fred-smoot-comes-to-gregg-williams-defense/]Fred Smoot comes to Gregg Williams’ defense | ProFootballTalk[/url]

There you go SS! We have a Fred Smoot sighting!

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fred smoot jimmy hart

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Bounties for inflicting intentional malice on your football opponent are deeply troubling to me; that the Redskins were involved is extremely disappointing.

Ethics – knowing the difference between Right and Wrong and how you put that knowledge into practice is a core characteristic of an organizations identity. It reflects how you feel about your organization, how others view you, and in the long run it reflects the quality of those that will want to be a part of your organization. It is incumbent upon a teams’ coaches to teach its principles by example to its players. It is incumbent upon the players to speak out when asked to do what they know is Wrong. Doing the Right thing takes courage and strength.

Football by its very nature is physical and sometimes punishing; player safety is a prime consideration in all you do on the field. A coach should do all he can to develop a players capabilities and hone their skills. Seeking a competitive advantage through game strategies and analyzing opponents’ weaknesses is highly encouraged. Seeking a competitive advantage by intentionally injuring an opponent is Wrong.

The Redskins have a choice – do they choose to be good or do they choose to be great. For my part, I hope they acknowledge Right from Wrong practices and choose to be great; even if that calls for courage and has an associated price to pay…

Just my opinion and pardon my rant.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7647430]Experience With Bounties - ESPN Video - ESPN[/url]


This pretty much sums it up for me.


You are rewarded your whole life as a football player for doing spectacular things or for making good plays. It starts off with stickers on helmets, and later transcends to money at the professional level. I think people get the wrong idea about these types of pools. I don't think coaches(or most of them) are telling guys to maliciously hurt the guys, but if you knock them out (with a clean hit) than you get bonus. Listen, those guys going to hit the players just as hard whether there is no money on the line or not. It's just in the pros, the money takes place of a sticker on a helmet.


Nothing to see. Move along.


The one problem here though is that the Siants were told to stop and didn't. Now that is going to probably draw some sort of discipline.

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I blame it all on this guy, the original bounty hunter. Sweep the leg.

[IMG]http://sanchaina.bizland.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/badsenseikaratekid.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;892273]I blame it all on this guy, the original bounty hunter. Sweep the leg.

[IMG]http://sanchaina.bizland.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/badsenseikaratekid.jpg[/IMG][/quote]get him a body bag!!!

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;892273][IMG]http://sanchaina.bizland.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/badsenseikaratekid.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Actually he looks a lot like GW (150 pounds ago)...

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[quote=T.O.Killa;892194]I lost all respect for Williams and the players that went along with it. I understand players trying to make hard hits, but any player or coach promoting hurting another player, should not play or coach in the NFL. After seeing that hit against Manning, it made me sick to think that Carter or Daniels got a bonus because they hurt Manning.[/quote]

Is there a link to that video.

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Never mind I found the video and it just looked like one was hitting him high as another hit him low from different directions.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBxHse5s74]Peyton Manning's Injury - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=NC_Skins;892266][URL="http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7647430"]Experience With Bounties - ESPN Video - ESPN[/URL]


This pretty much sums it up for me.


You are rewarded your whole life as a football player for doing spectacular things or for making good plays. It starts off with stickers on helmets, and later transcends to money at the professional level. I think people get the wrong idea about these types of pools. I don't think coaches(or most of them) are telling guys to maliciously hurt the guys, but if you knock them out (with a clean hit) than you get bonus. Listen, those guys going to hit the players just as hard whether there is no money on the line or not. It's just in the pros, the money takes place of a sticker on a helmet.


Nothing to see. Move along.


The one problem here though is that the Siants were told to stop and didn't. Now that is going to probably draw some sort of discipline.[/quote]

Exactly.

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[quote=firstdown;892300]Never mind I found the video and it just looked like one was hitting him high as another hit him low from different directions.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBxHse5s74"]Peyton Manning's Injury - YouTube[/URL][/quote]


Everyone keeps saying it was a legal hit. THAT IS NOT THE POINT!!!!! THE POINT IS THAT THEY GAVE BONUS'S FOR INJURING PLAYERS!!!!!!!!

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there is a good video from the backfield on nfl.com, i'll try scratching around for it

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that was easy
[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d8275f9af/Did-Redskins-cause-Manning-s-neck-injury]NFL Videos: Did Redskins cause Manning's neck injury?[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;892266][URL="http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7647430"]Experience With Bounties - ESPN Video - ESPN[/URL]


This pretty much sums it up for me.


You are rewarded your whole life as a football player for doing spectacular things or for making good plays. It starts off with stickers on helmets, and later transcends to money at the professional level. I think people get the wrong idea about these types of pools. [B]I don't think coaches(or most of them) are telling guys to maliciously hurt the guys,[/B] but if you knock them out (with a clean hit) than you get bonus. Listen, those guys going to hit the players just as hard whether there is no money on the line or not. It's just in the pros, the money takes place of a sticker on a helmet.


Nothing to see. Move along.


The one problem here though is that the Siants were told to stop and didn't. Now that is going to probably draw some sort of discipline.[/quote]

Well in this case the coach WAS telling guys to injure the opponent- which is a big part of the reason this is such a big deal.

There are plenty of former players on ESPN, etc saying that they used to give/get rewards for things tackles for a loss, interceptions, etc. I've got no issue with that.

To me the whole thing is intent to injure. Can't go out looking to put a guy on a stretcher intentionally.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;892273]I blame it all on this guy, the original bounty hunter. Sweep the leg.

[IMG]http://sanchaina.bizland.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/badsenseikaratekid.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

:funnypost you had us from hello Crazy C!!!!!!!!

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;892273]I blame it all on this guy, the original bounty hunter. Sweep the leg.

[IMG]http://sanchaina.bizland.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/badsenseikaratekid.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Put him in a body bag!!

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[quote=GMScud;892177]Who is Johnny5Dicky? .....nothing to see here[/quote]

Rex Grossman's mom.