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Let's see where they stand after 16 games. It's a long season.

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yes it is, I'd be surprised if they finished 8-8

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Question: are the Redskins a good team? 2-3 and 1 game out of first place in the division ain't bad at all. But the Redskins have been in every game within the first five games of the season. But the Redskins can't win at FED EX FIELD. Teams that are good don't have long losing streaks on their own home field. But the Redskins play exceptionally well on the road.

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No, the redskins are not a good football team. Our defense is atrocious and won't get substantially better this year, and maybe not even next (thank you cap penalty).

I predict a losing season in 2012 and perhaps in 2013 as well.

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Geez some of you sound bitter...can't even acknowledge the good in other teams. That's sad.

It's true Fisher hasn't won a Lombardi, but also true that throughout most of his tenure in Tennessee he faced powerhouses in New England, Indy, and Pittsburgh, and that's just in the AFC!! He's clearly turned the Rams culture around for the better, and he's a very good coach. He solidly outcoached our staff. I do expect them to be a winning team if not this season then next.

...and I can already see the threads discussing the "far better" roster Fisher inherited in St. Louis vs the one Shanahan inherited in DC lol.

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[quote=VegasSkinsFan;950617]You know I'm probably too far on the stay the course side of things.

I just don't think we could attract any proven talent here. If I'm a top gm candidate would I really want to go somewhere that has a huge cap hit and no first round picks for the next couple years.

[B]And I I'm a coach like gruden, cowher, or another top name do I go some place where MS, a potential HOF candidate, just failed.[/B]

The type of people we would attract would be the guys that can't get a shot elsewhere. We could wind up with the next mike tomlin, but it would be a longshot.[/quote]

Been thinking about this ever since you posted. Mike probably will go to the HOF just based on the two rings, right?

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[quote=The Goat;950804]Geez some of you sound bitter...can't even acknowledge the good in other teams. That's sad.

It's true Fisher hasn't won a Lombardi, but also true that throughout most of his tenure in Tennessee he faced powerhouses in New England, Indy, and Pittsburgh, and that's just in the AFC!! He's clearly turned the Rams culture around for the better, and he's a very good coach. He solidly outcoached our staff. I do expect them to be a winning team if not this season then next.

...and I can already see the threads discussing the "far better" roster Fisher inherited in St. Louis vs the one Shanahan inherited in DC lol.[/quote]

Yeah...we're the bitter ones.

Fisher's Titans had to face AFC powerhouses, he deserves total praise!!...but wait, didn't Shanahan's Broncos face those same powerhouses?

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[quote=The Goat;950804]Geez some of you sound bitter...can't even acknowledge the good in other teams. That's sad.[/quote]

That's ironic.

[quote=The Goat;950804]...and I can already see the threads discussing the "far better" roster Fisher inherited in St. Louis vs the one Shanahan inherited in DC lol.[/quote]

Didn't that same Ram's talent beat us several times the past few years?

2008 -We lose 19-17
2009 - We win 9-7. (this game should have been a loss as well)
2010- We lose 30-16.
2011 - We win 17-10
2012 - We lose 31-28


So the Rams record against us since 2008 is 3-2. I'd say Fisher had better talent starting out than Shanahan did. (not to mention a franchise QB)

Your proof they didn't have better talent?

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[quote=SmootSmack;950809]Yeah...we're the bitter ones.

Fisher's Titans had to face AFC powerhouses, he deserves total praise!!...but wait, didn't Shanahan's Broncos face those same powerhouses?[/quote]

I don't think anyone can honestly say the AFC West division was as competitive as the AFC South in those years. Is that what your saying?

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[quote=The Goat;950817]I don't think anyone can honestly say the AFC West division was as competitive as the AFC South in those years. Is that what your saying?[/quote]

When were the Steelers and Patriots in the AFC South?..and yeah anyone could honestly say the West was as competitive

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[quote=NC_Skins;950815]That's ironic.



Didn't that same Ram's talent beat us several times the past few years?

2008 -We lose 19-17
2009 - We win 9-7. (this game should have been a loss as well)
2010- We lose 30-16.
2011 - We win 17-10
2012 - We lose 31-28


So the Rams record against us since 2008 is 3-2. I'd say Fisher had better talent starting out than Shanahan did. (not to mention a franchise QB)

Your proof they didn't have better talent?[/quote]

Yes, the Rams have had our number, like most the rest of the NFL. What's your point?

LOL at the St. Louis roster comment!!!! Up until this year all we heard is how awful the Rams were, and they look pretty good now. Fisher must be doing something right ;)

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[quote=SmootSmack;950819]When were the Steelers and Patriots in the AFC South?..and yeah anyone could honestly say the West was as competitive[/quote]

Please tell me who in the AFC West was good like the Colts were under Manning since Elway retired?

If you dig too far we won't be able to hear each other SS :)

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[quote=The Goat;950826]Please tell me who in the AFC West was good like the Colts were under Manning since Elway retired?

If you dig too far we won't be able to hear each other SS :)[/quote]

James Cameron couldn't build a machine to get to as deep in the hole as you are.

You forget that Fisher got to play the mediocre to average Jaguars and Texans four times a year? (with some exceptions for the Jaguars, usually when the Titans were bad)

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;950809]Yeah...we're the bitter ones.

Fisher's Titans had to face AFC powerhouses, he deserves total praise!!...but wait, didn't Shanahan's Broncos face those same powerhouses?[/QUOTE]

Fisher did fare alittle better against those teams though and by my count has more than one playoff win over the last 14 years. He is in his first year with the rams and did beat shanny who is in his third year with the redskins. I think the goat is misunderstood. Lol. I dont see bitter i see sick of losing. I see a fan that wants his team to win again. Dont you ever get frustrated by the losing and sick of the positive - all is well - 6-10 is better than 3-13 - next year is our year crap? I do.



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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;950815]That's ironic.



Didn't that same Ram's talent beat us several times the past few years?

2008 -We lose 19-17
2009 - We win 9-7. (this game should have been a loss as well)
2010- We lose 30-16.
2011 - We win 17-10
2012 - We lose 31-28


So the Rams record against us since 2008 is 3-2. I'd say Fisher had better talent starting out than Shanahan did. (not to mention a franchise QB)

Your proof they didn't have better talent?[/QUOTE]

No way except bradford and rg3 is better and we still lost. They had no wr's until we made amendola a household name and our d has been more highly ranked and regarded than theirs for years. Their oline has been a mess just like ours. If anything its a push. Plus bradford was crap last year but we all want to call him a franchise qb because that is what fisher had that shanny didnt. Excuses excuses excuses.


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[quote=punch it in;950885]No way except bradford and rg3 is better and we still lost. They had no wr's until we made amendola a household name and our d has been more highly ranked and regarded than theirs for years. Their oline has been a mess just like ours. If anything its a push. Plus bradford was crap last year but we all want to call him a franchise qb because that is what fisher had that shanny didnt. Excuses excuses excuses.


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sam is a very good QB, he just has NO help at all around him and he still does a decent job.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;950887]sam is a very good QB, he just has NO help at all around him and he still does a decent job.[/QUOTE]

Well according to others the rams had a ton of talent when fish took over. Sorry i know sam is an okie too. Lol.


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[quote=punch it in;950888]Well according to others the rams had a ton of talent when fish took over. Sorry i know sam is an okie too. Lol.


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heck yes he is! Well I'm technically not from here but anyway lol.

No rams were not loaded at all hell they were a horrible team that fish took over.

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[quote=punch it in;950882]Fisher did fare alittle better against those teams though and by my count has more than one playoff win over the last 14 years. He is in his first year with the rams and did beat shanny who is in his third year with the redskins. I think the goat is misunderstood. Lol. I dont see bitter i see sick of losing. I see a fan that wants his team to win again. Dont you ever get frustrated by the losing and sick of the positive - all is well - 6-10 is better than 3-13 - next year is our year crap? I do.



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No...I love losing.

Of course I get tired of it. But don't bash just to bash is all I'm saying. Should have gone after a RT. Ok, fair argument. Shouldn't have spent money on Garcon when we could have just held onto Gaffney for another year at a lower price and waited for a better option. Fine. Shanahan saying Griffin was shaken up is a sign of poor management and coaching. Say what? Fisher has totally turned the Rams around and he had to face the powerhouse AFC. Come again?

And I like Fisher and think the Rams have good young talent and can be competitive...but they're five games...FIVE GAMES...into Fisher's tenure and already were throwing a parade for them. Based on what? And Fisher and Shahanan's records over the same period of time are comparable so don't put Fisher on a pedestal and call anyone who even remotely hints at supporting what Shanahan has done an apologist.

I think the point im eternally trying to make (the reason i got booted from es - i spoke up against the man) is that we are all fans. There are those of us who are frustrated and those of us who remain forever optimistic. Its just that based on the last twenty years the frustrated ones ( not giving up or we wouldnt even care) have much more of a platform to stand on than the optimistic one. I would post our overall record both regular and post season but we all know what it is.


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Our moves in the O.S were very good imo, everyone was bitching about offense and we went out and spent money on the O. Yeah it's not a good team but at least we can score and we have a damn good QB now. Better than losing with sorry ass REX or Mcnabb

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[quote=punch it in;950894]I think the point im eternally trying to make (the reason i got booted from es - i spoke up against the man) is that we are all fans. There are those of us who are frustrated and those of us who remain forever optimistic. Its just that based on the last twenty years the frustrated ones ( not giving up or we wouldnt even care) have much more of a platform to stand on than the optimistic one. I would post our overall record both regular and post season but we all know what it is.


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Frustration is one thing. Making up shit is another

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;950892]No...I love losing.

Of course I get tired of it. But don't bash just to bash is all I'm saying. Should have gone after a RT. Ok, fair argument. Shouldn't have spent money on Garcon when we could have just held onto Gaffney for another year at a lower price and waited for a better option. Fine. Shanahan saying Griffin was shaken up is a sign of poor management and coaching. Say what? Fisher has totally turned the Rams around and he had to face the powerhouse AFC. Come again?

And I like Fisher and think the Rams have good young talent and can be competitive...but they're five games...FIVE GAMES...into Fisher's tenure and already were throwing a parade for them. Based on what? And Fisher and Shahanan's records over the same period of time are comparable so don't put Fisher on a pedestal and call anyone who even remotely hints at supporting what Shanahan has done an apologist.[/QUOTE]

I think though that goats and mine and others frustration runs alot deeper than these fice games. Its just that now we are once again seeing a new coach in a new place - a place that has been drafting rite in front of us for a few years starting off 3-1 and here we are 2-3 and in last place. I know its early but its like oh man here it goes again. We have seen this movie before.
Edit: fish and the rams are the new poster boy for the "shit why cant that be us club".


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if i said the skins had identical offensive numbers to the saints this year would that make u like shanny more?

28 PPG and 400 YPG. Exact same as N.O. high powered offense

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Hey [B][U]skinsfaninok[/U][/B] you need to get up early and open up a Break It Down Thread on the Vikings tomorrow! Cause the last time you did the Skins won!!! And Cause I'm Very Superstitous !!! Now bob yo head and tap yo feet!! Lets loosen them mood around this mofo. And always hold the doe fo the bro with tha fro at tha licka sto.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE]Stevie Wonder ~ Superstition - YouTube[/url]

I am not necessarily hating on shanny. Im hating on the organization in general. I just want to win. I dont care who does it. Im not a gibbs fan im not a zorn fan or a shanny fan or even a rg3 fan. You know why - because one day any of them might be wearing other colors. I will be wearing b&g until i die and ill probably be buried in it. But to answer ur question - no. The saints are 1-4. I just want to win and good teams with good coaches fond a way to win no matter what the rankings say. My fantasy team however has been very happy with rg-3. Im not the doom and gloom guy okie. Im not bashing just to bash SS. I am very positive and keep the critiscism out of the game day threads because there is no place for it there really. My "post game thoughts" i consider realistic though. Win and i will show appreciation. It doesnt mean im a hater. When my kid does bad in school they aint getting a reward. Doesnt mean i hate them though. Doesnt mean im not rooting for them to do better next time.
Ok rants are done for the day.


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[quote=CrustyRedskin;950901]Hey [B][U]skinsfaninok[/U][/B] you need to get up early and open up a Break It Down Thread on the Vikings tomorrow! Cause the last time you did the Skins won!!! And Cause I'm Very Superstitous !!! Now bob yo head and tap yo feet!! Lets loosen them mood around this mofo. And always hold the doe fo the bro with tha fro at tha licka sto.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE"]Stevie Wonder ~ Superstition - YouTube[/URL][/quote]


LOL sounds good to me man!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;950887]sam is a very good QB, he just has NO help at all around him and he still does a decent job.[/quote]

Word. Fisher will solve that problem though with the plethora of picks in the next few years. But honestly that team has a lot of holes. The oline is pretty weak. No standout #1 WR. An aging franchise RB. Fisher has his work cut out for him. If he can be a winning coach this season, as in above .500, it's a pretty considerable achievement.

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[quote=SmootSmack;950835][B]James Cameron couldn't build a machine to get to as deep in the hole as you are. [/B]

You forget that Fisher got to play the mediocre to average Jaguars and Texans four times a year? (with some exceptions for the Jaguars, usually when the Titans were bad)[/quote]

James Cameron wouldn't waste James Cameron's time digging a guy like me out of the hole, unless I was 20 leagues under the sea :)

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[quote=The Goat;950917]Word. Fisher will solve that problem though with the plethora of picks in the next few years. But honestly that team has a lot of holes. The oline is pretty weak. No standout #1 WR. An aging franchise RB. Fisher has his work cut out for him. If he can be a winning coach this season, as in above .500, it's a pretty considerable achievement.[/quote]

The Rams have talent. They should certainly be playoff contenders by Fisher's third year.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;950900]if i said the skins had identical offensive numbers to the saints this year would that make u like shanny more?

28 PPG and 400 YPG. Exact same as N.O. high powered offense[/quote]

Yes...and no. From the five games we've seen our offense is top of the league when RG3 is the ball carrier on about half our rushing downs. That was pretty much the story in the first three games. The last two games we've gone more traditional, and the points/game regressed, though we still pulled out the win against Tampa. I thought our play-calling was more predictable against Atlanta. That draw play near the goal line for instance was pretty idiotic. Every team knows to key on RG3 now near the goal line. If you keep him back there with a RB in run formation the defense is likely to sniff it out most of the time, and as such we lost yardage on the play.

Admittedly, I've never thought Kyle was a quality OC and I've always said our play-calling gets predictable. It's been better with RG3 but again that goes back to him keeping the pigskin. As the season progresses we'll see if Mike/Kyle can put together series, quarters and games that put up points with the more traditional style, because after a concussion just 5 games in you have to bet they're going to limit RG3's exposure to hits.

...and the kid needs to just throw it away or get outta bounce. I love how hard he tries though...

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[QUOTE=Bucket;950098]Good game, we all know what was going to happen when RG3 went out. I said exatly what Smoot said in the gameday thread. We try to "protect" our playmaker and play him scared. Hes going to get hurt.

Alfred Morris is tough, but our Oline gives hime holes like Kansas to run through. Love to watch him run.

Defense was solid today, but not perfect. Good enough to win though, but our offense was out of synch. RG3 made several bad throws and on the 3rd and 1 near our endzone we called a zone read play where if RG3 keeps it, he runs close to the endzone if not in it. Im not sure why he was timid to run today, but we will miss him next week if hes gone.

[B]Im coming away postive today because i now feel like we can beat anyone in this league if we are focused and 100%. Im excited for our divisional games.[/[/B]QUOTE]

Agree 100%.

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[quote=Bucket;950226]It wasn't our defense stopping anyone.. It was Matt Ryan playing bad guys.

80% of the Warpath predicted us to lose this week, and then write paragraphs of how the world is crumbling, and our coaching staff sucks, our Dline is weak, we are 0-5, we have a QB that runs to much, but now he doesnt run enough, I love kit kats, Garcon can't get open, Fred Davis is overrated, Morris is a scheme style runner only, Danny Smith missed 5 FG's this year, we need to CUT GANO NOW, and we need to CUT CUNDIFF NOW AND RESIGN GANO! Skins are the worse team ever, but we should win every game, and i predict a 8-8 season, but WHY ARE WE WINNING GAMES!? SUCK FOR LUCK 2! So glad we got Griffin because he's a MVP, and why WASTE A 6TH ROUND DRAFT PICK ON A RB FROM FA!?, Morris for RotY!

That's basically what it's like reading the Warpath on a daily basis. I wish there was a ignore option because then I would actually be able to have realistic conversations with a select few that are here..Smoot, Tripp, etc..

Oh, and everyone has Kyle's number on offense. It's the main reason why we score 30 points a game. Kyle doesn't even call plays. What really happens on scoring drives is RG3 writes plays in Polumbus's helmet with a sharpie since it's the only thing Polumbus is good for. Obviously, he doesn't block!!![/quote]

Well said.

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Is Mike or Kyle calling plays?

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[quote=punch it in;950897]I think though that goats and mine and others frustration runs alot deeper than these fice games. Its just that now we are once again seeing a new coach in a new place - a place that has been drafting rite in front of us for a few years starting off 3-1 and here we are 2-3 and in last place. I know its early but its like oh man here it goes again. We have seen this movie before.
Edit: fish and the rams are the new poster boy for the "shit why cant that be us club".


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What was Shanny's record starting off in Washington? I remember a few years ago when the Buc's went 10-6 and everyone praised the coaching, and wanted that coach in Washington..

Oh, about that.....

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[quote=The Goat;950930]Is Mike or Kyle calling plays?[/quote]

Kyle

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[quote=The Goat;950917]Word. [B] Fisher will solve that problem though with the plethora of picks in the next few years.[/B] But honestly that team has a lot of holes. The oline is pretty weak. No standout #1 WR. An aging franchise RB. Fisher has his work cut out for him. If he can be a winning coach this season, as in above .500, it's a pretty considerable achievement.[/quote]

You should change your forum name to Goatstrodamus. Can you tell me who's going to win the Super Bowl this year so I can go ahead and live easy?

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[quote=Bucket;950935]You should change your forum name to Goatstrodamus. Can you tell me who's going to win the Super Bowl this year so I can go ahead and live easy?[/quote]

Dude you shoot put 10 large on Seattle right meow!

[QUOTE=The Goat;950917]Word. Fisher will solve that problem though with the plethora of picks in the next few years. But honestly that team has a lot of holes. The oline is pretty weak. No standout #1 WR. An aging franchise RB. Fisher has his work cut out for him. If he can be a winning coach this season, as in above .500, it's a pretty considerable achievement.[/QUOTE]
one question, how did he get the extra picks. one answer, he had a qb who he felt comfortable keeping. so regardless of every other point, fisher didn't spin his wheels trying to get a qb. instead he was comfortable enough that he could trade away a prime pick for future gains. the skins were not in that position...

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In fairness, we kind of chose to put ourselves in that QB situation. That said the Rams don't have considerably more picks than we do.