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[quote=skinsfaninok;990307]Anyone see welkers wife tweet about ray Lewis?? Ouch.

"6 kids by 4 women, aquitted for murder, yay what a role model "[/quote]

Ray Lewis may not have stabbed those two guys, but he knows who did, and that makes him an accessory to murder. I hope the truth comes out one day and people remember him for who he really is

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[quote=skinsfaninok;990307]Anyone see welkers wife tweet about ray Lewis?? Ouch.

"6 kids by 4 women, aquitted for murder, yay what a role model "[/quote]

There is an old punk song by The Decendants called "Sour Grapes" that is what it sounds like to me.

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NFL athletes are a lot of the time the worst citizens, any athlete for that matter. Even the great ones like Jordan, Ruth, Magic Johnson and others were not exactly admirable off the field. O well they are on tv the most.

Also this weekend proved that physical defense and a physical oline still wins you football games. Hope the redskins are taking note and learn the value of a physical front seven and secondary.

[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;990326]There is an old punk song by The Decendants called "Sour Grapes" that is what it sounds like to me.[/QUOTE]

Sure that's a part of it but she's right. I'm sick of Ray Lewis. Let's go SF!

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[quote=skinsfan69;990293]He had reason to crap on us.[/quote]

He wore out his welcome here, the crappy feelings were mutual

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Athletes are the worst citizens? Did I read that right? Hmm. Ok

I get the sense a lot of people are suddenly now sick of Ray Lewis, as if he's a different person than he's been all of a sudden

Would be crazy if this is Randy Moss' last game too. He should be, but wonder if he will be, a first ballot Hall of Famer as should Lewis and Tony Gonzalez. Will make for a great class in five years

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[quote=skinsfaninok;990307]Anyone see welkers wife tweet about ray Lewis?? Ouch.

"6 kids by 4 women, aquitted for murder, yay what a role model "[/quote]

Cheap shot.

The # of kids or by how many women shouldn't matter, as long as he takes care of those kids, and he does, it's all good.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;990351]Cheap shot.

The # of kids or by how many women shouldn't matter, as long as he takes care of those kids, and he does, it's all good.[/QUOTE]

Yes he does take care of them, and he's always there for them .

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[quote=Mattyk;990351]Cheap shot.

The # of kids or by how many women shouldn't matter, as long as he takes care of those kids, and he does, it's all good.[/quote]

Oh how society has fallen.

Welker's wife may have thrown out a cheap shot, but...she is right. It was probably best left unsaid though...especially after her husband helped lose the game for the Patriots. The timing makes it look bad and just bitter.


I have to say, Wes married up though.

[IMG]http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/anna-burns-ray-lewis-intro.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Monkeydad;990357]Oh how society has fallen.

Welker's wife may have thrown out a cheap shot, but...she is right.[/quote]

A guy takes care of his kids the way he is supposed to and society has fallen?

Ok.

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The part about not having a father there every day and having a faithful husband so the kids grow up in a complete family part.

Now it's acceptable to go spread your seed across the nation as long as you give the kids some cash every month I guess.

OK.

I guess you support Cromartie having so many kids he can't remember their names as long as he "pays for them".

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;990350]Athletes are the worst citizens? Did I read that right? Hmm. Ok

I get the sense a lot of people are suddenly now sick of Ray Lewis, as if he's a different person than he's been all of a sudden

Would be crazy if this is Randy Moss' last game too. He should be, but wonder if he will be, a first ballot Hall of Famer as should Lewis and Tony Gonzalez. Will make for a great class in five years[/QUOTE]

My thoughts on lewis havent ever changed. I think at the very least he was indirectly involved in a double murder and because of that he is not a good role model. Media and some fans seem to forget that. And yeah, I think all his crying is a bit fake and frankly annoying.

I could care less about his kids or women.

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[quote=Monkeydad;990359][B]The part about not having a father there every day and having a faithful husband so the kids grow up in a complete family part.[/B]

Now it's acceptable to go spread your seed across the nation as long as you give the kids some cash every month I guess.

OK.

I guess you support Cromartie having so many kids he can't remember their names as long as he "pays for them".[/quote]

I'm not going to pretend to be fully aware of his kids living situations but it's interesting you assume the worst. He's known to be a dedicated father and the main reason he's retiring is because his oldest is going to Miami next year to play football, and from what I've seen he's more than just a financial supporter of them.

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That's a lot of kids but a lot of women. I can barely deal with the one I've got. How the hell do you deal with 4 women asking you for child support? Do some of these guys know how to pull out or wear a damn condom? lol.

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[quote=Monkeydad;990359]The part about not having a father there every day and having a faithful husband so the kids grow up in a complete family part.

Now it's acceptable to go spread your seed across the nation as long as you give the kids some cash every month I guess.

OK.

I guess you support Cromartie having so many kids he can't remember their names as long as he "pays for them".[/quote]

It is easy to throw stones when we don't know or understand the situation. I am the product of a "broken" home yet my dad was an integral part of my childhood. Each situation is different and Cromartie is very different from Ray Lewis.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;990366]That's a lot of kids but a lot of women. I can barely deal with the one I've got. How the hell do you deal with 4 women asking you for child support? Do some of these guys know how to pull out or wear a damn condom? lol.[/QUOTE]

No shit! Some guys think it's cool to have multiple side women. .. **** that, more women more drama

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[quote=skinsfaninok;990368]No shit! Some guys think it's cool to have multiple side women. .. **** that, more women more drama[/quote]

No woman no cry.

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I think Ray Lewis, whatever his past, has been a good role model in his community for the past decade. Would being in jail make him a better role model?

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Tim Brown can't stand it, says Callahan planned it. I'm trying to tell you all...it's a sabotage!!!

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000129516/article/tim-brown-slams-bill-callahan-for-raiders-super-bowl-loss]Tim Brown slams Callahan for Raiders' Super Bowl loss - NFL.com[/url]

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;990376]Tim Brown can't stand it, says Callahan planned it. I'm trying to tell you all...it's a sabotage!!!

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000129516/article/tim-brown-slams-bill-callahan-for-raiders-super-bowl-loss]Tim Brown slams Callahan for Raiders' Super Bowl loss - NFL.com[/url][/QUOTE]

Saw this yesterday. It actually makes some sense lol

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[quote=SmootSmack;990376]Tim Brown can't stand it, says Callahan planned it. I'm trying to tell you all...it's a sabotage!!!

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000129516/article/tim-brown-slams-bill-callahan-for-raiders-super-bowl-loss"]Tim Brown slams Callahan for Raiders' Super Bowl loss - NFL.com[/URL][/quote]

Get over it Tim. Tampa had the better team.

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[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/1/21/3900908/jim-harbaugh-coaching-tips-quarterback-play]A younger Jim Harbaugh gets excited, breaks a projector - SBNation.com[/url]

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[quote=hooskins;990360]My thoughts on lewis havent ever changed. [B]I think at the very least he was indirectly involved in a double murder and because of that he is not a good role model.[/B] Media and some fans seem to forget that. And yeah, I think all his crying is a bit fake and frankly annoying.

I could care less about his kids or women.[/quote]

The guys that got killed started the fight and broke a champaign bottle over the head of a guy Lewis was with.. Not saying they deserved to die but good things aren't going to happen when you crack of glass bottle over someones head. I don't think the group Lewis was with went around looking for someone to stab.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;990368]No shit! Some guys think it's cool to have multiple side women. .. **** that, more women more drama[/quote]

Nothing wrong with multiple women, just don't knock them up!

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;990384]Nothing wrong with multiple women, just don't knock them up![/QUOTE]

Lol that's hard not to, condoms suck

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[quote=Monkeydad;990357]Oh how society has fallen.

Welker's wife may have thrown out a cheap shot, but...she is right. It was probably best left unsaid though...especially after her husband helped lose the game for the Patriots. The timing makes it look bad and just bitter.


I have to say, Wes married up though.

[IMG]http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/anna-burns-ray-lewis-intro.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Welker's wife just needs to STFU. I swear Twitter gives a voice to someone that no one cares to hear from.

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Last year it was Brady's wife complaining about a catch, this year its Welker's wife taken a cheap shot. Belicheat not doing interviews. When the Giants won the the first time Belicheat and Brady ran off the field without congratulating the Eli and Coach Coughlin...They get caught cheating, AND lets not down play that fact. It was cheating to the highest degree. They play a finesse style.

Im tired of the Pats and their whole organization and attitude. They act like a bunch of whiny pussies which mirrors their style of play.

Say what you want of Ray Ray, he's not a little whiny pussy like the Pats and their players.

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I'm tired of people talking about the cheating cause it's ridiculous. They've still won a shit load of games after that entire incident. Yeah they haven't won the SB but they've gotten there twice, went 18-1 and won a lot of regular season games. Yes they look like whiney bitches when they lose but the taping of the signals thing is just so tired and old.

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yeah its still cheap f*cking cheating. They're a bunch of cheats who didnt earn it.

Signals were the tip of the iceberg imo, scandel went deeper, but you know Goodell covered that up so the league wouldnt look so bad.

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[quote=skinsfan69;990391]I'm tired of people talking about the cheating cause it's ridiculous. They've still won a shit load of games after that entire incident. Yeah they haven't won the SB but they've gotten there twice, went 18-1 and won a lot of regular season games. Yes they look like whiney bitches when they lose but the taping of the signals thing is just so tired and old.[/quote]

I'm with you on this. We should move past it already

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that's fair, just showing a history of the type of character this franchise has. Along with the winning, there's alot of bs. Karma

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;990367]It is easy to throw stones when we don't know or understand the situation. I am the product of a "broken" home yet my dad was an integral part of my childhood. Each situation is different and Cromartie is very different from Ray Lewis.[/quote]

Cromartie was never involved in a murder. :D


It's just interesting how the media "crucifies" Tim Tebow for his faith, even when he just wears a scripture on his eyeblack and doesn't even vocally share his beliefs, and everyone hates him for it...but Ray Lewis gets cameras in his face 24/7 to egg him on for his next over-the-top sermon.

Tebow is legitimately a good person and role model. Ray Lewis was involved in a murder and has impregnated multiple women...and somehow he's the darling of the media?

I bet if RGIII wasn't as successful on the field as he has been, he'd be taking a lot of criticism for his opens displays of faith too. People would give him the same treatment as Tebow just because his mere presence as a Christian athlete would "offend" them.


[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2012/12/04/washington-redskins-beat-new-york-giants-17-16-with-robert-griffin-iii-rgiii-rg3/1744745/]Redskins QB Robert Griffin III after big win: God is on our side[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;990388]Last year it was Brady's wife complaining about a catch, this year its Welker's wife taken a cheap shot. Belicheat not doing interviews. When the Giants won the the first time Belicheat and Brady ran off the field without congratulating the Eli and Coach Coughlin...They get caught cheating, AND lets not down play that fact. It was cheating to the highest degree. They play a finesse style.

Im tired of the Pats and their whole organization and attitude. They act like a bunch of whiny pussies which mirrors their style of play.

Say what you want of Ray Ray, he's not a little whiny pussy like the Pats and their players.[/quote]

Exactly! Thank you. I agree with EVERYTHING in this post.

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I can't really say I've seen the media (let's just assume everyone in the media is of the same opinion about everything) giving Tebow a hard time because of his religion. They bash him for his inability to be a full time starting QB

Alot of these athletes that are being referred to as "bad citizens" were also not born with a half a chance. I can only imagine how hard it must be for a kid to grow up in the type of household that alot of them did, having to fend off the path of gang relations and drug habits that so many of their friends take. Instead they use their talent and time to rise above the rest and make a very nice living for themselves and their families. I think as fans we take for granted the situations that many (not all) but many come from.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;990391]I'm tired of people talking about the cheating cause it's ridiculous. They've still won a shit load of games after that entire incident. Yeah they haven't won the SB but they've gotten there twice, went 18-1 and won a lot of regular season games. Yes they look like whiney bitches when they lose but the taping of the signals thing is just so tired and old.[/QUOTE]

They are a great team - love it or hate it. Imagine if the Skins were them - superbowls, spygate, and all. Something tells me none of us would be saying boo about it. It would just be a case where the rest of the league and their fans were sour grapes. Which is the case here. I read so much about how the Giants suck, their fans have big heads. Ray Lewis is a murderer (especially when he wins - lol), the Pats are cry babies and cheaters. Seems like all the champions are tainted. Lol. Next year I hope we win it all, and if Griff is 100 percent i think there is a fantastic chance of that happening. Thats all i really care about. Lets not be sourgrapes until than - it will only detract from the sweetness of our own success. Httr.

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[quote=SmootSmack;989230]Ravens are one of the best run organizations in sports, can't hate on that[/quote]

No doubt. What are the best five run franchises in pro football in your estimation?

Edit: Doesn't have to be in a particular order because who could say, but generally which five are best run today?

^^^ whichever five win the most. Lol. Thats tough because some just dont have a fan base which allows them to compete.
Edit: Jacksonviille for example will never generate the revenue that say the Steelers do. It dont matter who is running what imo - they just arent on a level playing field.

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[quote=punch it in;990431]They are a great team - love it or hate it. [B]Imagine if the Skins were them - superbowls, spygate, and all. Something tells me none of us would be saying boo about it. It would just be a case where the rest of the league and their fans were sour grapes.[/B] Which is the case here. I read so much about how the Giants suck, their fans have big heads. Ray Lewis is a murderer (especially when he wins - lol), the Pats are cry babies and cheaters. Seems like all the champions are tainted. Lol. Next year I hope we win it all, and if Griff is 100 percent i think there is a fantastic chance of that happening. Thats all i really care about. Lets not be sourgrapes until than - it will only detract from the sweetness of our own success. Httr.[/quote]

Oh if that was the case people around here would be like..."the cheating didn't help us win one bit!" lol.

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[quote=punch it in;990431]They are a great team - love it or hate it. Imagine if the Skins were them - superbowls, spygate, and all. Something tells me none of us would be saying boo about it. It would just be a case where the rest of the league and their fans were sour grapes. Which is the case here. I read so much about how the Giants suck, their fans have big heads. Ray Lewis is a murderer (especially when he wins - lol), the Pats are cry babies and cheaters. Seems like all the champions are tainted. Lol. Next year I hope we win it all, and if Griff is 100 percent i think there is a fantastic chance of that happening. Thats all i really care about. Lets not be sourgrapes until than - it will only detract from the sweetness of our own success. Httr.[/quote]

People dont hate the patriots because theyve won so much. They hate them because their head coach is an arrogant douche.

And Ray Lewis is a murderer, or at minimum, an accessory after the fact. Its always bothered me he just moved on from that situation and no one ever brings it up. If the fact that the white suit he was wearing that night went "missing" and could not be provided to authorities doesnt raise your suspsicions, then the fact that the paid settlements to the victim's families should. He was [I]somehow [/I]involved in two murders. Why no one seems to care about it is beyond me.