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[quote=DynamiteRave;1047873]She is just the worst. [B]I swear she gets the tinglies every time the Redskins start falling apart[/B].[/quote]
..........Goat's mom?

[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1047894]Sally born in Forth Worth, TX

Wise and Feinstein are from New York



of course they want to see the Redskins fail.[/QUOTE]


In case you haven't noticed the Skins have failed for 20+ years..


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[quote=Brody81;1047898]In case you haven't noticed the Skins have failed for 20+ years..


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and they have loved every minute that they get to write about it. What's your point?

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[quote=SirLK26;1047732]Nice article. Any Redskins fans who still believe in Shanahan need to read this.[/quote]From the article:

[U]"Poor Mike Shanahan, dealing with that Dan guy again. Look how bad he treated Norv (who everyone wanted gone) and Marty (who quit after Dan tried to strip him of his GM role) and Spurrier (who also quit but Dan begged to come back) and how he ruined Joe Gibbs' legacy (who left the team on short notice after he also quit and, oh yeah, by the way, Gibbs had his hand in every bad and stupid move that was made during that four years and Dan also begged to stay) and screwed Jim Zorn (who was in over his head). Dan's just a horrible owner and as long as he's the Redskins owner they'll never be successful because he's basically Snidely effing Whiplash with a burgundy colored top hat. And no mustache."[/U]

Wow, I had no idea these other coaches were the ones to blame for the rolling circus that has been the Redskins under Dan Snyder. Meanwhile Snyder was unfair demonized into a villainous cartoon character. Thank goodness we saw through the tricks head coaches pull, this time around with Shanahan.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1047901]From the article:

"Poor Mike Shanahan, dealing with that Dan guy again. Look how bad he treated Norv (who everyone wanted gone) and Marty (who quit after Dan tried to strip him of his GM role) and Spurrier (who also quit but Dan begged to come back) and how he ruined Joe Gibbs' legacy (who left the team on short notice after he also quit and, oh yeah, by the way, Gibbs had his hand in every bad and stupid move that was made during that four years and Dan also begged to stay) and screwed Jim Zorn (who was in over his head). Dan's just a horrible owner and as long as he's the Redskins owner they'll never be successful because he's basically Snidely effing Whiplash with a burgundy colored top hat. And no mustache.

Wow, I had no idea these other coaches were the ones to blame for the rolling circus that has been the Redskins under Dan Snyder. Just like Shanahan now.[/quote]

Snyder has not shown an ability to hire and maintain competent HCs since he has been here. My major concern for the next HC is how much say is he going to have in the HC selection. For the record I am not sure if Allen is the man to be conducting the interviews either.

[QUOTE=Hog1;1047897]..........Goat's mom?[/QUOTE]

That would explain it! She has a crush on Shanny and Goat has an Oedipal complex.

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Jenkins is a shill for Shanny plain and simple. The idiot articles about the skins disappeared when they hired him.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/11/the-game-of-chicken-continues-in-d-c/]The game of chicken continues in D.C. | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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This is ending like he Zorn era with the coach doing things with the sole purpose of trying to get Snyder to fire him or publicly overrule him.

These last 3 games are going to be ugly.

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Sums up the situation at hand.

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[url=http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Kyle-Shanahan-May-Be-at-Center-of-Redskins-Coaching-Drama-235287111.html]Kyle Shanahan May Be at Center of Redskins Coaching Drama | NBC4 Washington[/url]


Looks like the cat is out of the bag. Somebody is fighting fire with fire.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1048139][url=http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Kyle-Shanahan-May-Be-at-Center-of-Redskins-Coaching-Drama-235287111.html]Kyle Shanahan May Be at Center of Redskins Coaching Drama | NBC4 Washington[/url]


Looks like the cat is out of the bag. Somebody is fighting fire with fire.[/quote]

Finally. Read Option has to be done along with Kyle

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[quote=NC_Skins;1048139][url=http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/Kyle-Shanahan-May-Be-at-Center-of-Redskins-Coaching-Drama-235287111.html]Kyle Shanahan May Be at Center of Redskins Coaching Drama | NBC4 Washington[/url]


Looks like the cat is out of the bag. Somebody is fighting fire with fire.[/quote]

Loyal readers of the Warpath have known for a while that Kyle-Snyder heat was boiling over

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[quote=SmootSmack;1048325]Loyal readers of the Warpath have known for a while that Kyle-Snyder heat was boiling over[/quote]

Yeah but I don't think it was clear before Kyle is arguably at the center of the tension?

My intuition is RG might be the most mature and reasonable of the five big personalities here???

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I don't really know what's going on, and I still expect Snyder to fire Shanahan after the last regular season game. But I will still laugh my *** off if Shanny stays, and Danny says all this controversy was media hype, and RG3 despite the competitor that he is keeps positive about this situation.

I can dream this won't turn out to be the usual Redskin trainwreck, can't I?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1048325]Loyal readers of the Warpath have known for a while that Kyle-Snyder heat was boiling over[/quote]

Yup. I'm just amazed that's the first report I've seen publicly that linked the drama to Kyle.

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Not sure if this was posted elsewhere:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/12/former-shanahan-quarterbacks-pile-on/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs]Former Shanahan quarterbacks pile on | ProFootballTalk[/url]

One of my business partners is acquainted with Plummer and says he's just about the most stand up guy around. Think I've mentioned all this before and probably in more detail, anywho...

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In Kyle's press conference today he said that he wanted to keep RG3 on the field. What is going on over there?

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1048577]In Kyle's press conference today he said that he wanted to keep RG3 on the field. What is going on over there?[/quote]

He's just staying out of the drama. Daddy is taking all the heat. Kyle gets to skip town without all the dirt on his hands.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1048577]In Kyle's press conference today he said that he wanted to keep RG3 on the field. What is going on over there?[/quote]

It's complete bs. Im sure father and son have gone over strategy on what to say, how to say it and how to end the season.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1048577]In Kyle's press conference today he said that he wanted to keep RG3 on the field. What is going on over there?[/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/12/12/kyle-shanahan-disappointed-with-rgiii-shut-down-trying-to-block-out-distractions/]Kyle Shanahan disappointed with Griffin shutdown, says he had ‘zero involvement’[/url]

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[url=http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24373508/snyder-rg3-made-mistakes-but-this-skins-disaster-is-all-shanahans]Snyder, RG3 made mistakes, but this Redskins disaster is all Shanahan(s)[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1048325]Loyal readers of the Warpath have known for a while that Kyle-Snyder heat was boiling over[/quote]

Well I'll try asking again. How do the players respond to RG? What's the situation in the locker room basically?

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[quote=The Goat;1048608]Well I'll try asking again. How do the players respond to RG? What's the situation in the locker room basically?[/quote]

Must have missed this the first time. For the most part I think well. I mean they know he's got some arrogance to him. But he's the franchise, and he works his tail off and like any QB he takes more credit and more blame than he probably ever deserves.

From what I hear, the locker room is surprisingly unified.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1048610]Must have missed this the first time. For the most part I think well. I mean they know he's got some arrogance to him. But he's the franchise, and he works his tail off and like any QB he takes more credit and more blame than he probably ever deserves.

From what I hear, the locker room is surprisingly unified.[/quote]

Does RG3 put in the time in the film room do you know?

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[quote=htownskinfan;1048654]Does RG3 put in the time in the film room do you know?[/quote]

I haven't heard that he slacks off in any way

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[quote=The Goat;1048559]Not sure if this was posted elsewhere:

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/12/former-shanahan-quarterbacks-pile-on/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs]Former Shanahan quarterbacks pile on | ProFootballTalk[/url]

One of my business partners is acquainted with Plummer and says he's just about the most stand up guy around. Think I've mentioned all this before and probably in more detail, anywho...[/quote]

i had read the usa today plummer article. a good read with all the chaos upon us. good intel on shanny.

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What if it's Snyder's people putting out all these rumors, including the one about Shanny cleaning out his office?

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[quote=HailGreen28;1048682]What if it's Snyder's people putting out all these rumors, including the one about Shanny cleaning out his office?[/quote]

Thing is Shanny has yet to flat out deny that report. He's always been quick to shoot down reports in the past if there's nothing to them. He also said there are partial truths out there to the rumors.

What would the logic be behind Snyder doing it?

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[quote=HailGreen28;1048682]What if it's Snyder's people putting out all these rumors, including the one about Shanny cleaning out his office?[/quote]

If people accuse me of things I'm not involved in, I'm quick to shoot it down and clear my name.

The fact that Shanahan hasn't even tried to deny any rumors, doesn't make him look real innocent.

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It seems to me that every media outlet is trying to get in as many stories as they can. It's overkill at this point. IMO RG3 got benched because of poor performance. Many QB's that have accomplished a hell of a lot more than RG3 have been benched... that includes McNabb while he was in Philadelphia, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon was benched even Drew Brees...benched and let go! These are very good to great QB's. It's not that big a deal people. Maybe this will be good for him.

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Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo 12m Interesting from Sean King: 1st 2 yrs: PManning 50TD/42INT (14-15 record). EManning 30/26 (12-11). Breese 28/31 (10-17). RGIII 36/17 (13-16)

None of those other guys were benched in yr 2.

Griffins numbers are better than people think

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[quote=Mattyk;1048692]Thing is Shanny has yet to flat out deny that report. He's always been quick to shoot down reports in the past if there's nothing to them. He also said there are partial truths out there to the rumors.

What would the logic be behind Snyder doing it?[/quote]Maybe the rumor's partly true, but it was leaked to make Shanny look bad?

From what little I've seen of Shanny talking, and I trust you that Shanny hasn't been blameless in this, him not really addressing that rumor at all seems weird.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1048696]If people accuse me of things I'm not involved in, I'm quick to shoot it down and clear my name.

The fact that Shanahan hasn't even tried to deny any rumors, doesn't make him look real innocent.[/quote]Agreed. Maybe the rumors true, but he didn't leak it? I dunno. I'm just struck by the way we're trashing Shanny for a move most people agree with. And one or two opinion articles have been posted here that Snyder's previous debacles with coaches really weren't primarily his fault. I feel like we're getting carried away with our Shanny hate, and that point, so I'm questioning everything about what's said now.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1048713]Maybe the rumor's partly true, [B]but it was leaked to make Shanny look bad?[/B]

From what little I've seen of Shanny talking, and I trust you that Shanny hasn't been blameless in this, him not really addressing that rumor at all seems weird.[/quote]

Shanny looks bad enough with his W/L record. That alone is enough to get him fired and nobody would be able to blame Snyder for doing so.

Too many things point in the direction of Shanahan on this.

Billick said he believes Mike is back next yr god I hope not

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Well I guess Mike Shanahan and I are the only two people in the world who have gotten upset at a fellow co-worker or boss and thought of leaving our jobs. Especially when it seems like the boss is picking favorites. In my line of work we have a name for it... their called the "Golden Child". They can do no wrong, never mess up, make mistakes and not get punished for them, etc. etc.

Re: Mike Shanahan was Ready to Leave Washington after 2012 Season
 

[quote=SBXVII;1048749]Well I guess Mike Shanahan and I are the only two people in the world who have gotten upset at a fellow co-worker or boss and thought of leaving our jobs. Especially when it seems like the boss is picking favorites. In my line of work we have a name for it... their called the "Golden Child". They can do no wrong, never mess up, make mistakes and not get punished for them, etc. etc.[/quote]

It is okay to get upset at your boss.

It is not ok to suck at your job and act as if it is other people's fault.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1048701]Mike Jones ‏@MikeJonesWaPo 12m Interesting from Sean King: 1st 2 yrs: PManning 50TD/42INT (14-15 record). EManning 30/26 (12-11). Breese 28/31 (10-17). RGIII 36/17 (13-16)

[B]None of those other guys were benched in yr 2.[/QUOTE[/B]]

Cause they played better in their 2nd years. If RG3 was not throwing the ball 10 feet over the wr's heads, only looking at one wr and running into sacks he's be on the field. Even the KC defenders were saying they would just run to the side where he turned his head cause they knew he wouldn't look anywhere else. Everyone that's upset about him sitting down fail to mention any of this stuff.