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jamf 12-22-2013 07:39 PM

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I know there is no possibility of this happening but I want Greg Williams back.
I change my vote from Todd Bowles to Greg Williams.

The Goat 12-22-2013 07:53 PM

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[quote=jamf;1050827]I know there is no possibility of this happening but I want Greg Williams back.
I change my vote from Todd Bowles to Greg Williams.[/quote]

Welcome to the wagon my friend :)

SFREDSKIN 12-22-2013 08:15 PM

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[quote=jamf;1050827]I know there is no possibility of this happening but I want Greg Williams back.
I change my vote from Todd Bowles to Greg Williams.[/quote]

I don't understand the love for the guy that motivated his players by paying them, I have no respect for him and don't see him coaching again.

T.O.Killa 12-22-2013 08:53 PM

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I think all the Greg Williams guys can get on the Rex Ryan band wagon

Mechanix544 12-22-2013 10:19 PM

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I really do not see the negative in bringing RG3's college coach to town. I think the familiarity alone would be a positive, and I do not see our offense sputtering and shaky like it is this year. Hire the best DC you can find, and let him have carte blanche on defensive scheme/players. Promote Bruce Allen to president, and get a new special teams and secondary coach. It can be done. I think Briles will be a good fit here, better than Shanahan.

skinsfaninok 12-22-2013 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;1050835]I think all the Greg Williams guys can get on the Rex Ryan band wagon[/QUOTE]

He's done a good job this yr

CrustyRedskin 12-22-2013 11:15 PM

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Marv Levey

SouperMeister 12-23-2013 01:01 AM

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Just not anyone named Shanahan. That is all.

Skinz4eva 12-23-2013 09:57 AM

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Until the right GM is installed...does not matter.

Paintrain 12-23-2013 10:09 AM

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[quote=Mechanix544;1050861]I really do not see the negative in bringing RG3's college coach to town. I think the familiarity alone would be a positive, and I do not see our offense sputtering and shaky like it is this year. Hire the best DC you can find, and let him have carte blanche on defensive scheme/players. Promote Bruce Allen to president, and get a new special teams and secondary coach. It can be done. I think Briles will be a good fit here, better than Shanahan.[/quote]

I don't want them to hire Briles, partly because I don't know how he's going to adapt to the overall NFL environment vs. his current 'cushy' spot and also because of the perception issues that will overshadow everything.

However IF it happens, then they better win quickly and win big otherwise it will be another mess. The only way I'd be comfortable with Briles is if he's got a really strong staff with at least one high level assistant with former NFL head coaching experience that won't be a distraction a la Gregg Williams or Rex Ryan.

HailGreen28 12-23-2013 10:58 AM

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Apologies if this is posted already. Saw on ES user "Bishop Hammer" posted this great video:

[YT]IW-pcmIHH5Y#t=221[/YT]

diehardskin2982 12-23-2013 11:01 AM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10180138/bill-obrien-nfl-buyout-penn-state-nittany-lions-reduced]Bill O'Brien NFL buyout with Penn State Nittany Lions reduced - ESPN[/url]

Interesting news about Bill O'Brien

skinsfaninok 12-23-2013 11:42 AM

I'd take em

MTK 12-23-2013 02:48 PM

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Definitely on the short list

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Report-Penn-States-OBrien-seeks-to-reduce-buyout-further.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Report: Penn State's O'Brien seeks to reduce buyout further | National Football Post[/url]

RobH4413 12-23-2013 03:40 PM

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In case you haven't seen it


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/12/23/cooley-says-danny-smith-wants-redskins-coaching-job/]Cooley says Danny Smith wants Redskins coaching job[/url]

Chico23231 12-23-2013 03:46 PM

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[quote=RobH4413;1051007]In case you haven't seen it


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/12/23/cooley-says-danny-smith-wants-redskins-coaching-job/]Cooley says Danny Smith wants Redskins coaching job[/url][/quote]

lol, he cant be serious. No way this happen

Ruhskins 12-23-2013 03:52 PM

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[quote=RobH4413;1051007]In case you haven't seen it


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/12/23/cooley-says-danny-smith-wants-redskins-coaching-job/]Cooley says Danny Smith wants Redskins coaching job[/url][/quote]

Sadly, he'd be an upgrade.

Paintrain 12-23-2013 03:56 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1050998]Definitely on the short list

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Report-Penn-States-OBrien-seeks-to-reduce-buyout-further.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Report: Penn State's O'Brien seeks to reduce buyout further | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

I know he's got NFL experience and connections. I wonder though what kind of staff would he put together. Belichek's 'tree' has done quite poorly outside of NE and I wonder if he will try to dip into that pool of coaches or branch out to find others that he likes.

SmootSmack 12-23-2013 04:12 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1050998]Definitely on the short list

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Report-Penn-States-OBrien-seeks-to-reduce-buyout-further.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Report: Penn State's O'Brien seeks to reduce buyout further | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

Funny they're talking about this news now, though it happened in June. I believe he is at the top of the list right now. Have liked him for a while but didn't think he'd be at the top of the list, new revelations lead me to put him in the top 3

Eknox 12-23-2013 04:25 PM

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Who are your top 3 Smootsmack?

The Goat 12-23-2013 04:35 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1051016]Funny they're talking about this news now, though it happened in June. I believe he is at the top of the list right now. Have liked him for a while but didn't think he'd be at the top of the list, new revelations lead me to put him in the top 3[/quote]



Who's the top three?

Jayroc24 12-23-2013 04:58 PM

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Everyone wants the next Pete Carroll..........
Two words: Urban Meyer= Championship



Haha

Paintrain 12-23-2013 05:11 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1051016]Funny they're talking about this news now, though it happened in June. I believe he is at the top of the list right now. Have liked him for a while but didn't think he'd be at the top of the list, new revelations lead me to put him in the top 3[/quote]
Maybe I read it differently, I thought it meant that it was already reduced and he was looking to do it again. Either way I don't know if Snyder wants to do a Shanny buyout, O'Brien buyout plus a salary. That's a ton of $$ tied up in one spot.

30gut 12-23-2013 05:26 PM

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Hire Ron Wolf as a consultant for the GM/HC hire:
[url=http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Chargers-Begin-Process-Retain-Ron-Wolf-as-Consultant/35382b2f-75ce-4f10-93ed-6678004f1988]Chargers Begin Process, Retain Ron Wolf as Consultant[/url]

My list in no particular order:

HC:
Josh McDaniels (Pats)
Darrell Bevell (Seattle Seahawks)
Pete Carmichael, Jr. (New Orleans Saints)
Tom Clements (Green Bay Packers)
Jay Gruden (Cincinnati Bengals)
Greg Roman (San Francisco 49ers)
Todd Bowles(Zona)


OC/DC maybe HC:
Either of the Ryan IF paired with a proven OC
Mike Zimmer (Bengals)"
Lovie Smith
Hugh Jackson (Bengals)
Rick Dennison (Houston Texans) must be paired with a young OC
Dick LeBeau


DC/OC only:
Scott Linehan
Eric Mangini
Wade Phillips
Gary Kubiac


Key hires: OC or QB coach that comes from a proven passing scheme and has either (a) developed a young QB before ( has played QB before or has called plays before (even though they will most likely NOT be the primary playcaller here)
Staff:
QB Coach Ken Dorsey (Panthers)
OC/QB coach Phillip Montgomery (Baylor)
QB Coach-Jake Spavital (Texas A&M)
Kurt Roper OC from Duke
James Coley OC from Miami
OC/QB coach Scott Frost (Oregon State)
Zac Taylor (Dolphins)

Paintrain 12-23-2013 05:33 PM

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[quote=30gut;1051036]Hire Ron Wolf as a consultant for the GM/HC hire:
[url=http://www.chargers.com/news/article-1/Chargers-Begin-Process-Retain-Ron-Wolf-as-Consultant/35382b2f-75ce-4f10-93ed-6678004f1988]Chargers Begin Process, Retain Ron Wolf as Consultant[/url]

My list in no particular order:

HC:
Josh McDaniels (Pats)
Darrell Bevell (Seattle Seahawks)
Pete Carmichael, Jr. (New Orleans Saints)
Tom Clements (Green Bay Packers)
Jay Gruden (Cincinnati Bengals)
Greg Roman (San Francisco 49ers)
Todd Bowles(Zona)


OC/DC maybe HC:
Either of the Ryan IF paired with a proven OC
Mike Zimmer (Bengals)"
Lovie Smith
Hugh Jackson (Bengals)
Rick Dennison (Houston Texans) must be paired with a young OC
Dick LeBeau


DC/OC only:
Scott Linehan
[B]Eric Mangini[/B]
Wade Phillips
Gary Kubiac


Key hires: OC or QB coach that comes from a proven passing scheme and has either (a) developed a young QB before ( has played QB before or has called plays before (even though they will most likely NOT be the primary playcaller here)
Staff:
QB Coach Ken Dorsey (Panthers)
OC/QB coach Phillip Montgomery (Baylor)
QB Coach-Jake Spavital (Texas A&M)
Kurt Roper OC from Duke
James Coley OC from Miami
OC/QB coach Scott Frost (Oregon State)
Zac Taylor (Dolphins)[/quote]
He's an interesting name and if Greg Roman is in the mix, Mangini may be in the mix as well. [url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/108220/mangini-taking-the-offensive-with-49ers]Eric Mangini is taking the offensive with 49ers - ESPN[/url]

SmootSmack 12-23-2013 05:50 PM

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[quote=The Goat;1051025]Who's the top three?[/quote]

Their top 3 appears to be O'Brien, Jay Gruden (the Jonny G flirtation will linger but can't see it happening) and a mystery candidate. Conventional wisdom says that's Briles. I think it could be someone not at all on the radar

Skinsfanatic 12-23-2013 06:12 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1051041]Their top 3 appears to be O'Brien, Jay Gruden (the Jonny G flirtation will linger but can't see it happening) and a mystery candidate. Conventional wisdom says that's Briles. I think it could be someone not at all on the radar[/quote]

Compared to what we have, all of those sound great. But seriously, O'Brien and Jay Gruden both sound like good candidates. However, the HC is going to need a good staff. Our staff, from top to bottom, is not good right now.

Paintrain 12-23-2013 06:33 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1051041]Their top 3 appears to be O'Brien, Jay Gruden (the Jonny G flirtation will linger but can't see it happening) and a mystery candidate. Conventional wisdom says that's Briles. I think it could be someone not at all on the radar[/quote]
Sheehan and Schefter were talking earlier on 980 and indicated that Jay wasn't interested in DC, not a fan of the noise and drama but money and opportunity talks.

sevier2 12-23-2013 06:38 PM

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1051048]Compared to what we have, all of those sound great. But seriously, O'Brien and Jay Gruden both sound like good candidates. However, the HC is going to need a good staff. Our staff, from top to bottom, is not good right now.[/quote]

Exactly this. Head coach is the big talk of town but I'm equally anxious to see what coordinators/position coaches are hired under the new regime.

skinsfaninok 12-23-2013 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1051016]Funny they're talking about this news now, though it happened in June. I believe he is at the top of the list right now. Have liked him for a while but didn't think he'd be at the top of the list, new revelations lead me to put him in the top 3[/QUOTE]

Y not Shaw?? Damn lol well if it's this list I.want O'Brien

The Goat 12-23-2013 06:51 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1051041]Their top 3 appears to be O'Brien, Jay Gruden (the Jonny G flirtation will linger but can't see it happening) and a mystery candidate. Conventional wisdom says that's Briles. I think it could be someone not at all on the radar[/quote]

What do you think of these guys?? And is there any chance Lovie, Gwilliams or Whisenhunt come aboard?

sevier2 12-23-2013 07:00 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1051053]Y not Shaw?? Damn lol well if it's this list I.want O'Brien[/quote]

Shaw has stated he has no interest in leaving Stanford. With that being said though, every man has his price...

SS what's the real life chances of shaw coming here? I know it's a long shot but is there any hope?

SouperMeister 12-23-2013 07:04 PM

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I think Whisenhunt would be a great fit, and he has done some nice work with QB's including Phillip Rivers' bounce back this season and resurrecting Kurt Warner's career after a disastrous stint in New York.

GTripp0012 12-23-2013 07:17 PM

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O'Brien may be the best choice if the goal is to try to win with Shanahan's players. Not that that's really a main goal, but it could be a perk.

O'Brien and Jay Gruden are both good talent evaluators, which is something that this franchise has struggled with since Marty. Having a coach that can tell the difference between a good player and a not as good player can really go a long way to helping out a young GM.

GTripp0012 12-23-2013 07:19 PM

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The thing is, Griffin can look great in a wide variety of systems, so the Redskins can go very out of the box with this hire and pay it off. They don't have to focus on grabbing a known quantity.

The interesting thing about O'Brien's system is how rarely the quarterback runs. It would probably be great for Griffin's development. But on the other hand, there's a huge skill that we paid dearly for that would be largely pushed to the side.

SmootSmack 12-23-2013 08:04 PM

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[quote=The Goat;1051054]What do you think of these guys?? And is there any chance Lovie, Gwilliams or Whisenhunt come aboard?[/quote]

Bill O'Brien: Potential to be great, but I think you have to be patient with him

Gruden: He's a small town guy and I worry how he would handle DC (fans and media)

Briles: I don't know. I don't like that he doesn't have any NFL experience at all. It's a big risk I think that I'm too timid to take a chance on

Shaw: Spoke to him end of last week, he reiterated he doesn't want to leave for the NFL

Whisenhunt: Very solid coach, can he work with RG3's skill set? I don't know

GWilliams: Could very easily see him returning, but as a DC

Lovie: Don't see it happening

Grimm: Don't see that either

skinsfaninok 12-23-2013 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1051066]Bill O'Brien: Potential to be great, but I think you have to be patient with him

Gruden: He's a small town guy and I worry how he would handle DC (fans and media)

Briles: I don't know. I don't like that he doesn't have any NFL experience at all. It's a big risk I think that I'm too timid to take a chance on

Shaw: Spoke to him end of last week, he reiterated he doesn't want to leave for the NFL

Whisenhunt: Very solid coach, can he work with RG3's skill set? I don't know

GWilliams: Could very easily see him returning, but as a DC

Lovie: Don't see it happening

Grimm: Don't see that either[/QUOTE]

Do u know Shaw personally? If so beg him! Lol

BigHairedAristocrat 12-23-2013 08:21 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1051066]Bill O'Brien: Potential to be great, but I think you have to be patient with him

Gruden: He's a small town guy and I worry how he would handle DC (fans and media)

Briles: I don't know. I don't like that he doesn't have any NFL experience at all. It's a big risk I think that I'm too timid to take a chance on

Shaw: Spoke to him end of last week, he reiterated he doesn't want to leave for the NFL

Whisenhunt: Very solid coach, can he work with RG3's skill set? I don't know

GWilliams: Could very easily see him returning, but as a DC

Lovie: Don't see it happening

Grimm: Don't see that either[/quote]

Other than Lovie, not a single person listed strikes me as a sure fire upgrade over Shanahan. I understand it's trendy to hate on Shanahan now, but Why buy out Shanahan and his staffs contracts for someone who's not clearly better?

SmootSmack 12-23-2013 08:23 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1051068]Do u know Shaw personally? If so beg him! Lol[/quote]

We're acquainted, yes. And I've tried :)

skinsfaninok 12-23-2013 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1051070]Other than Lovie, not a single person listed strikes me as a sure fire upgrade over Shanahan. I understand it's trendy to hate on Shanahan now, but Why buy out Shanahan and his staffs contracts for someone who's not clearly better?[/QUOTE]

Mike doesn't want to be here anymore that's y and I wonder what interest Todd Bowles has in coaching the skins


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