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[quote=Lotus;1059460]Yes, it is normal for older vets to make younger players pay for various things. The part where Martin was not included on the trip might be abnormal.[/quote]

"Every year, as tradition, the offensive line goes on a big Vegas trip. Everything is paid for in advance, from hotels to a private jet to show tickets. Martin originally verbally committed to the trip, then later backed out after everything was booked. Now, if you can’t go because of an emergency then it’s okay, but to say you’re going and then decide you don’t want to spend the money later? Everything was paid for, and then when it was time to pay up he didn’t want to go anymore. You don’t do that to your brothers. The veterans who paid for it, including Incognito and others, asked for Martin’s share, and he gave it to them. End of story."

[url=http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/07/richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-dolphins-lydon-murtha/]Richie Incognito never bullied Jonathan Martin, Lydon Murtha says | The MMQB with Peter King[/url]

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I dont want either one of these guys on the team.

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[quote=Chico23231;1059470]I dont want either one of these guys on the team.[/quote]

This. Never really cared for Incognito, but I don't want Martin on my team either. We don't need another scenario like that on our team.

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Apparently this guy knows nothing. Look at this dumbass article. He say we need bigger lineman, Adam Gettis is going to be our new RT. This guy apparently writes articles by seat of his pants.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000325729/article/offseason-forecast-washington-redskins"]Offseason Forecast: Washington Redskins - NFL.com[/URL]


[QUOTE]» OT Tyler Polumbus: Polumbus has been a turnstile at right tackle, and is perhaps the weakest link on the team. The Redskins like 2012 fifth-round pick Adam Gettis, and he could slide into Polumbus' spot if they don't find someone in free agency.

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I think it's obvious we need bigger linemen. That's one of the reasons I've been advocating drafting Cyril Richardson.

Edit: My bad. I see what you're saying now.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1059474]Apparently this guy knows nothing. Look at this dumbass article. He say we need bigger lineman, Adam Gettis is going to be our new RT. This guy apparently writes articles by seat of his pants.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000325729/article/offseason-forecast-washington-redskins"]Offseason Forecast: Washington Redskins - NFL.com[/URL][/quote]

A great example of why many articles/columns from national writers are awful. It's almost like they look at the roster and randomly plug in names wherever they have blank space.

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[quote=Paintrain;1059476]A great example of why many articles/columns from national writers are awful. It's almost like they look at the roster and randomly plug in names wherever they have blank space.[/quote]

I know right, when we all know it's LeRibeus who will be are new starting RT. :)

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Thanks guys for the good info on the Vegas vacation.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60906/haslett-on-olbs-well-turn-them-loose]Jim Haslett on outside linebackers: We'll turn them loose - ESPN[/url]

Not a bad read, IMO if we get constant pressure secondary looks so much better.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1059484][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60906/haslett-on-olbs-well-turn-them-loose]Jim Haslett on outside linebackers: We'll turn them loose - ESPN[/url]

Not a bad read, IMO if we get constant pressure secondary looks so much better.[/quote]

only if we can get a free safety to play worth a @#$!.

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This story is just...

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2014/02/14/darren-sharper-new-orleans-saints-california-rape-los-angeles/5486639/]Prosecutors: Darren Sharper drugged, raped two women[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1059501]This story is just...

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2014/02/14/darren-sharper-new-orleans-saints-california-rape-los-angeles/5486639/]Prosecutors: Darren Sharper drugged, raped two women[/url][/quote]

one of the most disgusting things I've every heard. Pending investigation in 3 other states? This is terrible. Richmond guy who had made us so proud. My mom used to work out with his mom at the same gym.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1059501]This story is just...

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2014/02/14/darren-sharper-new-orleans-saints-california-rape-los-angeles/5486639/]Prosecutors: Darren Sharper drugged, raped two women[/url][/quote]

That is just insane. I just can't believe from watching him on tv and seeing him in the NFL that he would be a serial rapist. Charges sound pretty serious though, it definitely doesn't sound accidental. If he is guilty I hope they throw the book at him.

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Hell of a valentine day for the nfl, serial rapist and the texts of jmart's sister and mom.

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Pick magnet bling!!!!

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1059484][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/60906/haslett-on-olbs-well-turn-them-loose]Jim Haslett on outside linebackers: We'll turn them loose - ESPN[/url]

Not a bad read, IMO if we get constant pressure secondary looks so much better.[/quote]

This sounds all good but neither player is an elite rusher. But good see they've got a coach to help them with the rush. My question is why wasn't this done years ago?

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Interesting

[QUOTE]According to Pro Football Focus, all of the 3-4 linebackers who had more sacks than Orakpo last year rushed the quarterback more, some of them a lot more. For example, Mario Williams of the Bills had three more sacks, 14, than Orakpo’s 11 did but he rushed the quarterback 184 more times (547-383) to get them. Tamba Hali of the Chiefs had one more sack than Orakpo while trying to get a sack 117 more times (500-363).

If Orakpo got sacks on the same percentage of his rushes and went after the quarterback as many times as Williams did, Orakpo would have almost 17 sacks.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2014/02/15/haslett-says-hell-turn-orkapo-and-kerrigan-loose/]Haslett says he’ll turn Orkapo and Kerrigan loose | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/QUOTE]

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[quote=Mattyk;1059640]Interesting[/quote]

Great stat when you actually get to see the percentages instead of totals.

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[quote=Mattyk;1059640]Interesting[/quote]

Great find, who let the DOGS out!

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Surprised no one mentioned Ray Rice and his girlfriend both getting arrested for beating each other up in Atlantic City.


NOW, there's apparently a video of him dragging her out of an elevator, unconscious.

[url=http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/19/ray-rice-unconscious-fiancee-atlantic-city-video-arrest/]Ray Rice -- Dragging Unconscious Fiancee ... After Alleged Mutual Attack [Video] | TMZ.com[/url]


Doubt he'll get suspended though, because he's Ray Rice.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1059823]Surprised no one mentioned Ray Rice and his girlfriend both getting arrested for beating each other up in Atlantic City.


NOW, there's apparently a video of him dragging her out of an elevator, unconscious.

[url=http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/19/ray-rice-unconscious-fiancee-atlantic-city-video-arrest/]Ray Rice -- Dragging Unconscious Fiancee ... After Alleged Mutual Attack [Video] | TMZ.com[/url]


Doubt he'll get suspended though, because he's Ray Rice.[/quote]

NFL has a serious problem lately with the treatment of females. Darren Sharper, Incognito's texts about women, and now this? Im sure Goodell is looking the other way.

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The league typically doesn't act until the player has gone through the legal process.

Why would they be looking the other way??

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[quote=Chico23231;1059825]NFL has a serious problem lately with the treatment of females. Darren Sharper, Incognito's texts about women, and now this? Im sure Goodell is looking the other way.[/quote]

What do you mean he's looking the other way? Look at all of the pink merchandise they sell.

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Over at ES, TK says Fred Davis is suspended indefinitely for substance abuse. [URL="http://es.redskins.com/topic/377159-statement-by-an-nfl-spokesperson-fred-davis-of-the-washington-redskins-has-been-suspended-indefinitely-without-pay/"] LINK[/URL]

If true, what a bonehead. And Vinny Cerrato's failure at drafting continues to this day.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1059847]Over at ES, TK says Fred Davis is suspended indefinitely for substance abuse. [URL="http://es.redskins.com/topic/377159-statement-by-an-nfl-spokesperson-fred-davis-of-the-washington-redskins-has-been-suspended-indefinitely-without-pay/"] LINK[/URL]

If true, what a bonehead. And Vinny Cerrato's failure at drafting continues to this day.[/quote]

I'm going to state the obvious: time to move on(if true). It's clear he doesn't care about staying on the field and earning his pay.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/19/fred-davis-suspended-indefinitely/]Fred Davis suspended indefinitely | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Nice career

This is not good...

Redskins TE Davis suspended indefinitely for violating NFL's substance abuse policy

[URL]
http://beta.thescore.com/news/435213 [/URL]

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[quote=Chico23231;1059849][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/19/fred-davis-suspended-indefinitely/]Fred Davis suspended indefinitely | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Nice career[/quote]



What a clown that dude is. I can see why Shanny did what he did with Fred.


Crazy thing is, Tenard Jackson is still suspended. It's been 2 years and NFL still hasn't let him back in.

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JLC is reporting it could be 6 games.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24448694/redskins-te-fred-davis-suspended-indefinitely-by-nfl]Redskins TE Fred Davis suspended indefinitely by NFL - CBSSports.com[/url]

[QUOTE]CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora reported in January that Davis had failed a marijuana test and would be subject to the a six-game suspension. Although the NFL announced that Davis' suspension is 'indefinite,' when all is said and done, it could turn out to be six games as La Canfora originally reported.[/QUOTE]

Have we officially cut him yet?

I have no sympathy for a repeat-offending idiot. He's flushed his career and honestly, his life down the toilet.

Enjoy life, Fred.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1059852]What a clown that dude is. I can see why Shanny did what he did with Fred.


Crazy thing is, Tenard Jackson is still suspended. It's been 2 years and NFL still hasn't let him back in.[/quote]

I don't understand the Commissioner's office apparently ignoring his reinstatement. Give him an answer one way or the other.

You can buy his jerseys here.

[url=http://www.nflredskinsfanshop.com/tanard-jackson-jersey-c-1_37.html]Sale Tanard Jackson Jersey Jersey, Washington Redskins Authentic Elite Limited Game Womens Youth Jerseys Online[/url]

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[quote=Monkeydad;1059855]JLC is reporting it could be 6 games.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24448694/redskins-te-fred-davis-suspended-indefinitely-by-nfl]Redskins TE Fred Davis suspended indefinitely by NFL - CBSSports.com[/url]



Have we officially cut him yet?

I have no sympathy for a repeat-offending idiot. He's flushed his career and honestly, his life down the toilet.

Enjoy life, Fred.[/quote]
He's a pending free agent so we don't have to waste the time to release him. He's done in the NFL at this point. Good riddance loser.

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Good news.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10484945/ray-rice-baltimore-ravens-knocked-fiancee-unconscious-altercation]Ray Rice of Baltimore Ravens knocked fiancee unconscious during altercation - ESPN[/url]

My guess is no suspension for knocking out a woman and then dragging her around a casino, yet Fred Davis is suspended for smoking weed. Funny world this NFL league.

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[quote=kct1975;1059850]This is not good...

Redskins TE Davis suspended indefinitely for violating NFL's substance abuse policy

[URL="http://<br />http://beta.thescore.com/news/435213"]
http://beta.thescore.com/news/435213 [/URL][/quote]


Actually, this is just fine. He was basically a non-factor last season anyway. Moving along...

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Fred "Doobie Twister" Davis's career is toast.

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/40624/Redskins-TE-Fred-Davis-gets-indefinite-suspension/Default.aspx]Redskins TE Fred Davis gets indefinite suspension[/url]

ooops....sorry for the double info.....shoulda looked before I leaped.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1059855]JLC is reporting it could be 6 games.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24448694/redskins-te-fred-davis-suspended-indefinitely-by-nfl]Redskins TE Fred Davis suspended indefinitely by NFL - CBSSports.com[/url]
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I've never seen the NFL suspend somebody indefinitely and it be shorter than a year. It's going to be longer than 6 games. Also, the JLC report was back in January when he first failed. He's not reporting that now.

Also, apparently Fred Davis or his marketing person thinks we are as stupid as he is.

[quote]Unfortunately, a couple of months ago I took a supplement that contained a banned substance. I now know that supplements are not regulated by the FDA and may contain banned substances. The NFL Policy is strict, and not knowing that a supplement might contain a banned substance doesn't excuse a violation of the policy. [/quote]

He's busted for the substance abuse policy, not the PED policy. Why is he mentioning supplements when they have nothing to do with the substance abuse policy? I've heard of guys blaming supplements when they get busted for PEDs, but never heard anyone blaming them for failing the substance abuse drug tests.

Well, Fred probably got his "supplements" in Colorado. Perhaps in brownie form.

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[quote=Chico23231;1059870][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10484945/ray-rice-baltimore-ravens-knocked-fiancee-unconscious-altercation]Ray Rice of Baltimore Ravens knocked fiancee unconscious during altercation - ESPN[/url]

My guess is no suspension for knocking out a woman and then dragging her around a casino, yet Fred Davis is suspended for smoking weed. Funny world this NFL league.[/quote]

NFL is looking into the Rice situation according to this article. Davis is a repeat offender. Different situations IMO (for now).

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1059905]Well, Fred probably got his "supplements" in Colorado. Perhaps in brownie form.[/quote]Again, lol.
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Speculation that Ray Rice might be cut.


It's ESPN, so take it however you want.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/6856/ravens-face-tough-decisions-with-rice]Baltimore Ravens face tough decisions with Ray Rice - ESPN[/url]


[QUOTE]The Ravens are in a lose-lose situation with Rice.

In most instances, teams gain salary-cap room by cutting a player. But, the way Rice's contract is structured, the Ravens would lose $5.5 million in cap space by parting ways with Rice because of the pro-rated bonuses that would have to be absorbed. To put that in context, that $5.5 million is more than what the Ravens saved when they signed linebacker Terrell Suggs to an extension Monday.

The Ravens could designate Rice as a post-June 1 cut, which would create $4 million in cap space in 2014. The problem is, Rice would count $9.5 million in dead money in 2015, which is a large chunk for a player not on the roster. Anyway you look at it, the Ravens lose a significant amount of cap space if they decide to cut him.
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They'd be foolish to cut Rice after one offense, though it IS a major offense in my eyes. But, if he does face a suspension, he's an expensive player to have on the shelf.

I've been telling Ravens fans I know that they're going to regret paying Flacco so much. He hit the jackpot timing-wise with his contract but it's going to hurt this team for years to come. Look at the Giants since they paid Eli, downward slide and they can't afford to even protect him or give him RBs any more. The same thing is happening to the Ravens, who have little cap room now and may face losing Arthur Jones, Jacoby Jones, Michael Oher, Dennis Pitta, Daryl Smith, Corey Graham...and possibly Ray Rice after unloading a lot of talent last season.