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EARTHQUAKE2689 05-09-2014 10:26 PM

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From what I hear, Spencer Long could project to C.

Meks 05-09-2014 10:26 PM

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But no let's get they guy who tore his MCL last year..

punch it in 05-09-2014 10:27 PM

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1071425]I think the problem is (and I'm sure part of this problem) people hating on a pick because they don't know the name. Would the reaction have been the same if we took Yankey? Probably not.[/QUOTE]


There is a reason we know one name and not another though. Lol. This guy would have been there in probably the fifth round. Maybe the sixth. Do we think THAT much of him to take him in the third? I guess so. Idk.

JGisLordOfTheRings 05-09-2014 10:27 PM

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wow. houston is gonna be nasty up front were gonna have our damn hands full week one

artmonkforhallofamein07 05-09-2014 10:27 PM

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10/15/13 - Nebraska has lost its top offensive lineman, most likely for the rest of the year. Coach Bo Pelini said Tuesday that Spencer Long will have surgery Thursday on his left knee. Long was hurt on the Huskers' fifth play from scrimmage on Saturday at Purdue. Nebraska won the game 44-7. Long was an Outland Trophy candidate after making first-team All-Big Ten and second-team All-American in 2012. Pelini says it looks like Long is gone for the year, "but the prognosis going forward's a little bit better." - AP Sports

Not a terrible pick.

Dirtbag59 05-09-2014 10:28 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1071428]Sheesh, people act like like we just picked a punter with a high round pick or something. SMH.[/quote]

To be fair I think its more that he was graded as a 6th rounder by ESPN and 7th rounder by CBS. Not to mention Yankey {OG Stan} and Nix {NT ND} was still on the board. Personally though I have a hard time being mad about picking OL.

skinsfanthru&thru 05-09-2014 10:29 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1071425]I think the problem is (and I'm sure part of this problem) people hating on a pick because they don't know the name. Would the reaction have been the same if we took Yankey? Probably not.[/quote]

Or maybe because he's coming off an injury and was projected as a 6th rounder or even undrafted. I like addressing the line but saw Yankey or even maybe wait for Richardson from Baylor in a round or two and then use the pick on Brooks from FSU.

Has McGill been taken yet?

Lotus 05-09-2014 10:29 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1071433][B]FWIW the front office seems to be putting a premium on high motor players.[/B] After all they passed up Moses initially for Murphy and then with that last pick Spencer Long {OG Neb} they got a guy who was a former walk on.[/quote]

Yes, and I like it.

Spencer Long is Jake's brother. He's a smart boy - repeatedly All-Academic. He's a walk on who worked hard.

Meks 05-09-2014 10:29 PM

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Hope they all turn out well. Cyas tomorrow! #httr

Ruhskins 05-09-2014 10:29 PM

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1071440]wow. houston is gonna be nasty up front were gonna have our damn hands full week one[/quote]

They have no offense though.

Dirtbag59 05-09-2014 10:30 PM

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BTW gaiz I know its slightly off topic but I just wanted to post this awesome song I found recently that no one has heard of. I'm 100% sure you guys haven't heard it either.
[YT]HGy9i8vvCxk[/YT]

OmahaRedskins 05-09-2014 10:31 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1071435]From what I hear, Spencer Long could project to C.[/quote]

Because he isn't a nfl guard.

Dirtbag59 05-09-2014 10:33 PM

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I know people think that Jimmy Garoppolo has a great mentor in Brady but I have a feeling Brady is closer to Favre in terms of mentoring rather than Hasslebeck.

JGisLordOfTheRings 05-09-2014 10:33 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1071447]They have no offense though.[/quote]

Yea but if they just stomp us with their d, it wont matter. It's not like were gonna be world beaters on d, doesnt take a ton of talent to burn us there.

punch it in 05-09-2014 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;1071448]BTW gaiz I know its slightly off topic but I just wanted to post this awesome song I found recently that no one has heard of. I'm 100% sure you guys haven't heard it either.

[YT]HGy9i8vvCxk[/YT][/QUOTE]


Lololol

sevier2 05-09-2014 10:33 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1071448]BTW gaiz I know its slightly off topic but I just wanted to post this awesome song I found recently that no one has heard of. I'm 100% sure you guys haven't heard it either.
[YT]HGy9i8vvCxk[/YT][/quote]

That gave me a good laugh. Every year the draft ruins a song for me for life.

Ruhskins 05-09-2014 10:34 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1071442]To be fair I think its more that he was graded as a 6th rounder by ESPN and 7th rounder by CBS. Not to mention Yankey {OG Stan} and Nix {NT ND} was still on the board. Personally though I have a hard time being mad about picking OL.[/quote]

After seeing a 6th rounder become the second highest rusher in the league within our own team, people still don't learn that anything can happen with these mid to low round picks.

Dirtbag59 05-09-2014 10:35 PM

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[quote=sevier2;1071454]That gave me a good laugh. Every year the draft ruins a song for me for life.[/quote]

Ironically I haven't reached that point yet. Personally I think I'm just happy they didn't use a Drake song like From the Bottom. I would love it though if this was the theme song for day 3 (aka rounds 4-7)
[YT]A5GYOsKLp6o[/YT]
[quote]I've been right; I've been left
I've been wrong; I've been left behind
I've been up, but mostly down[/quote]
[quote]All I got now is today
Tomorrow ain't here
And yesterday is gone dead on me anyway[/quote]

Talk about a slap in the face to players still waiting to hear their name called :D

Ruhskins 05-09-2014 10:36 PM

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1071452]Yea but if they just stomp us with their d, it wont matter. It's not like were gonna be world beaters on d, doesnt take a ton of talent to burn us there.[/quote]

Houston just came from a crappy season where they had a good D on paper and a subpar offense. I know they've improved, but they're not going to become the Seahawks D overnight just because they picked players you know.

artmonkforhallofamein07 05-09-2014 10:40 PM

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JG are you a troll or really drunk ?

We will win week 1.

Dirtbag59 05-09-2014 10:41 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1071458]JG are you a troll or really drunk ?

We will win week 1.[/quote]

As long as they don't find a QB :D

JGisLordOfTheRings 05-09-2014 10:43 PM

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1071458]JG are you a troll or really drunk ?

We will win week 1.[/quote]

That's what we all said last year too.....:doh:

All i'm saying is were gonna have a hard time blocking those 3 at one time effectively. If Clowneys not a complete bum, which I fully believe he is, Houston helped their D immensely? Did you not see how Seattle won the SB last year? Nasty up front and solid on the back end of the D. Just saying it for sure isnt gonna be a cake walk.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-09-2014 10:44 PM

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Daseal and I had big plans to get hammered. It didn't work out. Instead we're working on only like 2-3 shots of Fireball and a few beers. Damn, I feel old.

punch it in 05-09-2014 10:45 PM

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1071455]After seeing a 6th rounder become the second highest rusher in the league within our own team, people still don't learn that anything can happen with these mid to low round picks.[/QUOTE]


Nobody is saying ever....just not rite now. Lol

JGisLordOfTheRings 05-09-2014 10:46 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1071462]Daseal and I had big plans to get hammered. It didn't work out. Instead we're working on only like 2-3 shots of Fireball and a few beers. Damn, I feel old.[/quote]

O Fireball, I hate you, but I love you.

artmonkforhallofamein07 05-09-2014 10:46 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1071459]As long as they don't find a QB :D[/quote]

Just run anybody our there cause their d will be ridiculous. :)

Dirtbag59 05-09-2014 10:47 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1071462]Daseal and I had big plans to get hammered. It didn't work out. Instead we're working on only like 2-3 shots of Fireball and a few beers. Damn, I feel old.[/quote]

Alcohol -10 Awareness
Cocaine +94 Awareness

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Skinsfanatic 05-09-2014 10:47 PM

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ok, so i say we trade cousins for pick 91 (arizona) and take yankey.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-09-2014 10:47 PM

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1071464]O Fireball, I hate you, but I love you.[/quote]

SOOO delicious. We'll work harder tomorrow since it's not a work day. Should be nice, have 2 one pound steaks and a couple filets that we're gonna' grill for lunch. If we haven't taken care of at least a half of that handle, we have failed.

NC_Skins 05-09-2014 10:49 PM

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[quote=Meks;1071431]This to the T ... Two picks later... The raiders get a plug and play starter at GUARD[/quote]


Based on what? Your scouting report? I have a feeling the Raiders are much worse on the OL than we are.


All I'm hearing is........[I]"I'm mad because I don't know who these guys are and its' not a name I've heard parroted by draftniks/analysts the past couple months"[/I].......


If you guys want "instant contributors" from 3rd rounders, I have no idea what league you've been watching. Mostly everybody passed the first two rounds are developmental players. Hell, even some 2nd rounders are as well. If they catch on quick and are able to start, it's a bonus.

JGisLordOfTheRings 05-09-2014 10:50 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1071468]SOOO delicious. We'll work harder tomorrow since it's not a work day. Should be nice, have 2 one pound steaks and a couple filets that we're gonna' grill for lunch. If we haven't taken care of at least a half of that handle, we have failed.[/quote]


Haha I'm glad I wasn't drinking tonight. I woulda smashed a 12 pack and fifth just between the murphy and moses picks. Way to keep it civil guys

Alvin Walton 05-09-2014 10:53 PM

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Eagles are stocking up on wide receivers......

Lotus 05-09-2014 10:57 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1071472]Eagles are stocking up on wide receivers......[/quote]

Yup. Trying to replace DJax's production.

Ruhskins 05-09-2014 10:58 PM

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1071460]That's what we all said last year too.....:doh:

All i'm saying is were gonna have a hard time blocking those 3 at one time effectively. If Clowneys not a complete bum, which I fully believe he is, Houston helped their D immensely? Did you not see how Seattle won the SB last year? Nasty up front and solid on the back end of the D. Just saying it for sure isnt gonna be a cake walk.[/quote]

It's probably not going to be a cakewalk, but you're comparing a team with an elite defense at all levels and a good offense (Seattle), versus a team that just acquired some good pieces on defense and has a HUGE question mark on offense.

KI Skins Fan 05-09-2014 11:00 PM

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nfldraftscout.com on Spencer Long:

"He is a nasty mauler with aggressive hands and is the type of blocker who fights through the echo of the whistle and grinds on every snap. Long shows good quickness off the snap, can get to the second level and wastes little time attacking, but has stiff hips and lacks ideal flexibility when he gets out in space. Although he's not shy about engaging and getting feisty with his limbs, Long needs to do a better job staying balanced and latching on to control defenders. He isn't a household name, even in Big Ten country, but he might be the best interior blocker out of the Big Ten."

I don't know about the rest of you, but I wanted nasty players and apparently that's what he is. So I got what I wanted, in that respect. Is he healthy? Can he play? I dunno. We'll see.

I felt going into the draft that if the FO only picked players that I know something about then they must not be doing a very good job. We'll see about that, as well. It looks to me like the FO is just ranking the players and picking them as ranked regardless of any round projections by the so-called experts.

Slingin Sammy 33 05-09-2014 11:01 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1071470]
All I'm hearing is........[I]"I'm mad because I don't know who these guys are and its' not a name I've heard parroted by draftniks/analysts the past couple months"[/I].......


If you guys want "instant contributors" from 3rd rounders, I have no idea what league you've been watching. Mostly everybody passed the first two rounds are developmental players. Hell, even some 2nd rounders are as well. If they catch on quick and are able to start, it's a bonus.[/quote]
Successful draft is about a balance of value of picks, needs, and bpa. No prob with Murph or Moses picks. Spence likely could've been taken later and Skins could've filled a desperate need at S with a good value player in Brooks at 78.

punch it in 05-09-2014 11:01 PM

2014 NFL Draft: Rounds 2-3
 
[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1071470]Based on what? Your scouting report? I have a feeling the Raiders are much worse on the OL than we are.





All I'm hearing is........[I]"I'm mad because I don't know who these guys are and its' not a name I've heard parroted by draftniks/analysts the past couple months"[/I].......





If you guys want "instant contributors" from 3rd rounders, I have no idea what league you've been watching. Mostly everybody passed the first two rounds are developmental players. Hell, even some 2nd rounders are as well. If they catch on quick and are able to start, it's a bonus.[/QUOTE]


Is it ok that some not be happy with the pick? Lol. The guys who do this for a living were scratching their heads. There were without a doubt people there that could have started and contributed. Now maybe this guy can, but Signs point to no rite now. Again its a crapshoot. All we have to base our opinions on rite now are what we read and hear about him, and none of it points to get up and dance. Sorry.

JGisLordOfTheRings 05-09-2014 11:05 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1071482]It's probably not going to be a cakewalk, but you're comparing a team with an elite defense at all levels and a good offense (Seattle), versus a team that just acquired some good pieces on defense and has a HUGE question mark on offense.[/quote]

The Texans D was fantastic year before last when ol Bum2.0 was there. They have some good offensive players, I like hopkins a ton. Losing Tate I think is gonna bite them in the ass cuz Foster IMO just isnt as good anymore. I wasn't trying to compare the two teams really, just the way their drafting is inside that model. Didn't address the secondary but as long as their DL does what it should, they'll be much better. Schaub throwing 2 pick sixes a game last year didn't help them either......

Early prediction?

I think we win but only because theres no way you can cover everybody on our offense now effectively. Here's hoping the OL gels well and can keep our boy upright.

Skins-35
Texans-31

Ruhskins 05-09-2014 11:05 PM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;1071487]Successful draft is about a balance of value of picks, needs, and bpa. No prob with Murph or Moses picks. Spence likely could've been taken later and Skins could've filled a desperate need at S with a good value player in Brooks at 78.[/quote]

And they could very well pick up a safety tomorrow with that early 4th rounder.

Personally, the only pick that should warrant a response like what we've seen from some people today is a really bad first round pick, since a first rounder is almost always expected to contribute significantly and even start. From the second round on, it could go either way in my opinion.

Ruhskins 05-09-2014 11:07 PM

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;1071492]The Texans D was fantastic year before last when ol Bum2.0 was there. They have some good offensive players, I like hopkins a ton. Losing Tate I think is gonna bite them in the ass cuz Foster IMO just isnt as good anymore. I wasn't trying to compare the two teams really, just the way their drafting is inside that model. Didn't address the secondary but as long as their DL does what it should, they'll be much better. Schaub throwing 2 pick sixes a game last year didn't help them either......

Early prediction?

I think we win but only because theres no way you can cover everybody on our offense now effectively. Here's hoping the OL gels well and can keep our boy upright.

Skins-35
Texans-31[/quote]

Fair enough. I remember when people said that the Lions line was going to epic a while back and they were not. Unless the Texans get a decent QB, I don't think having all that firepower in the d-line is going to get them that far.


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