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[quote=punch it in;1095640]Dont u understand that he isnt improving? Its always about winning. Always.


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But we didn't win with Kirk Cousin when everyone was loving him . RG3 has to learn and we need to let him play it out. He going against the better defenses in the league. Colin Kap didn't do shit but he is on a much better team.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1095651]And the Colt McCoy era begins....[/quote]

Can't wait to hear RG3's press conference after this. A lot more of "I gotta play better. I gotta practice harder."

I've never been more tired of those excuses.

And for the love of Christ, please draft a RT with our first round pick.

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[quote=CASKINS;1095653]I dont think so...honestly Colt would of gotten killed back there[/quote]

Not even saying that's my preference, just seems like Gruden wants to play him.

I was wrong about Moses, apparently he is terrible.

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RG3 excuse #16043 It is all the O-lines fault
RG3 excuse #19304 Teammates not playing well
Rg3 excuse #45062 Coaches not coaching well
RG3 excuse #55064 "Haters"
Rg3 excuse #09405 Cheerleaders not hot enough
RG3 excuse #07807 Gatorade not cold enough-damn waterboy

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Colt plays we probably win this one folks

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[quote=CASKINS;1095639]Im gonna make my way to the parking lot lmfao[/quote]

Cool you went, at least it was competitive

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1095658]Colt plays we probably win this one folks[/QUOTE]


Griff just doesnt get it .... At all.


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[quote=CASKINS;1095653]I dont think so...honestly Colt would of gotten killed back there[/quote]

Agreed

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Post game presser coming up

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqxFtEPH51o&feature=player_embedded]Redskins vs. 49ers Post Game Press Conference - YouTube[/url]

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Im gonna go out on a limb here and say I'd bet colt would have put up more than 110 yds passing.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1095656]
I was wrong about Moses, apparently he is terrible.[/quote]

He is a rookie coming in mid season playing the second hardest position in the Offense. It might be too early to call his career over.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1095663]Im gonna go out on a limb here and say I'd bet colt would have put up more than 110 yds passing.[/quote]

Or hit a pass deeper than 10 yards.

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[QUOTE=Hijinx;1095657]RG3 excuse #16043 It is all the O-lines fault
RG3 excuse #19304 Teammates not playing well
Rg3 excuse #45062 Coaches not coaching well
RG3 excuse #55064 "Haters"
Rg3 excuse #09405 Cheerleaders not hot enough
RG3 excuse #07807 Gatorade not cold enough-damn waterboy[/QUOTE]
LOL!

RG3 excuse #39089 The football was under inflated

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Two trains of thought:

1. We need to give RG3 the rest of the season to see what we have.

2. Rg3 is done, we need to give Colt McCoy the rest of the season to see what we have.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1095663]Im gonna go out on a limb here and say I'd bet colt would have put up more than 110 yds passing.[/quote]

Lol yup.

Can't blame shit on moses, blame our dumbshit o coordinator not giving him help versus a top 5 dline in the league, on the road.

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[quote=Chico23231;1095668]Lol yup.

Can't blame shit on moses, blame our dumbshit o coordinator not giving him help versus a top 5 dline in the league, on the road.[/quote]

I think he got some help most of the game but you can't run max protect when you need 96 yards in 45 seconds.

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[quote=Chico23231;1095658]Colt plays we probably win this one folks[/quote]

Colt will be here next year but we don't need him to play now. We know what Colt can do remember he started with the Browns and he didn't succeed there. We gave up to much to just give up on RG3 in his really 2nd season. He has missed a lot of games due to injury . He learning a pro offense now. Every game is important for Robert to play .

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1095667]Two trains of thought:

1. We need to give RG3 the rest of the season to see what we have.

2. Rg3 is done, we need to give Colt McCoy the rest of the season to see what we have.[/quote]

We're really boned either way.

1. We let RG3 play, we lose and have zero passing attack
2. McCoy plays. We have a QB that doesn't play scared but also has a noodle arm.


Either way, at the end of the day, we don't have a starter.

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[quote=skins89moss;1095670]Colt will be here next year but we don't need him to play now. We know what Colt can do remember he started with the Browns and he didn't succeed there. We gave up to much to just give up on RG3 in his really 2nd season. He has missed a lot of games due to injury . He learning a pro offense now. Every game is important for Robert to play .[/quote]

I agree, but just saying we probably win if he starts

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[quote=skins89moss;1095670]Colt will be here next year but we don't need him to play now. We know what Colt can do remember he started with the Browns and he didn't succeed there. We gave up to much to just give up on RG3 in his really 2nd season. He has missed a lot of games due to injury . He learning a pro offense now. Every game is important for Robert to play .[/quote]

I wouldn't say he's learning it...

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1095671]We're really boned either way.

1. We let RG3 play, we lose and have zero passing attack
2. McCoy plays. We have a QB that doesn't play scared but also has a noodle arm.


Either way, at the end of the day, we don't have a starter.[/quote]

You have to go with #1, at least you get a good draft pick and know that you don't have to exercise the 5th year option for $18 mil.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1095667]Two trains of thought:



1. We need to give RG3 the rest of the season to see what we have.



2. Rg3 is done, we need to give Colt McCoy the rest of the season to see what we have.[/QUOTE]


Neither one is the long term solution. Give Mccoy the ball to see if we have a good backup? Maybe he surprises us.


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[quote=Hijinx;1095669]I think he got some help most of the game but you can't run max protect when you need 96 yards in 45 seconds.[/quote]

Right, then u take the chance and it results in a fumble.

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[quote=Chico23231;1095672]I agree, but just saying we probably win if he starts[/quote]

If we win we drop in the draft position so think of it that way .

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[quote=Daseal;1095673]I wouldn't say he's learning it...[/quote]

Here here. He's regressed and then plateaued.

I think he may only be able to succeed out of a Redskins uniform and even that's iffy.

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[quote=skins89moss;1095654]But we didn't win with Kirk Cousin when everyone was loving him . RG3 has to learn and we need to let him play it out. He going against the better defenses in the league. Colin Kap didn't do shit but he is on a much better team.[/quote]

Well said.

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[quote=Chico23231;1095676]Right, then u take the chance and it results in a fumble.[/quote]

At that point you have to take a chance. The game wasn't lost on that play though, despite the pro-Rg3 people trying to use it as proof that all the sacks are the O-lines fault. no the game was lost on the 3 and out the previous procession, where RG3 took his patented 9 yard rop and burped the ball until someone sacked him.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1095678]Here here. He's regressed and then plateaued.

I think he may only be able to succeed out of a Redskins uniform and even that's iffy.[/quote]

I think he would be best in the CFL. They run a lot of spread college offences.

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[QUOTE=skins89moss;1095670]Colt will be here next year but we don't need him to play now. We know what Colt can do remember he started with the Browns and he didn't succeed there. We gave up to much to just give up on RG3 in his really 2nd season. He has missed a lot of games due to injury . He learning a pro offense now. Every game is important for Robert to play .[/QUOTE]


The problem is that there should be glimpses, at least, of getting it. There arent. Its beyond terrible rite now. These games arent building confidence in his own head, or anyone elses. We should be seeing some slight progressions by now. I argue that we are seeing regressions.


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Our team sucks. I'm happy the Defense was playing ball today though. I haven't seen a single post calling for Haslett's head...yet. Alfred ran his A@@ off.

Rough loss either way. We haven't had a solid line since...forever. I would really like to see RG in a game where he is not running for his life, or getting his back knocked through his chest. Those blindside hits have to suck, a lot of character to keep getting up. I would have removed my helmet and clubbed Moses a few times.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1095623]I dont think there is any need for RG-3 to play anymore. There is no way in hell he is getting extended, let him go be clueless somewhere else. He is terrible.


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This. Its time to pull the plug. The guy is garbage, and getting worse if that's possible.

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2-13 on third down conversion.

73.6 QBR for the game.

106 yards passing.

You aren't going to win with a QB putting up these kinds of numbers. Sure, the OL failed at times during the game, but bobby three sticks wasn't good either. Still holding onto it too long, still tapping the ball with his hand when he goes back. Still indecisive about throwing it. Not being able to read blitzes and being able to audible out or adjust blocking. This doesn't even take into account that our defense got him the ball 3 extra times off of turnovers. No wonder Jay is frustrated as fuck.

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[U] Jesus Christ Almighty will the pro-RG3 people stop making excuses for him!! [/U] [B]Show me his best play these last 2 games. [/B] It probably was where he handed the ball to Almo and managed to get the hell out of the way. He has not hit one pass down the field, I mean not one goddamn completion more than 12 yards. The only long pass plays are where the WR runs after the catch.

You can't keep saying oh well he didn't really cost us the game the D did, or the O-line,or the ball boy. A QB is not judged by how well he didn't lose the game, he is judged by how well he won you the game. Three 1st round and a 2nd round for a guy to hand to ball to Almo, I could fucking do that. Stop setting the bar so low and looking at this guy with rose colored glasses. [B]He is a bust.[/B]

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[quote=hagams;1095683]Our team sucks. I'm happy the Defense was playing ball today though. I haven't seen a single post calling for Haslett's head...yet. Alfred ran his A@@ off.

Rough loss either way. We haven't had a solid line since...forever. I would really like to see RG in a game where he is not running for his life, or getting his back knocked through his chest. Those blindside hits have to suck, a lot of character to keep getting up. I would have removed my helmet and clubbed Moses a few times.[/quote]

Totally agree man! Sick of hearing these jabronies put the blame on RG. He's not playing great, but neither is the o-line. For that matter, we don't get consistent performance from the def either. Collectively speaking the team constantly falls short in one way or another. Right now I'm not too concerned with any one player.

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OK, don't jump on me for this: we need to bring back Tyler Palumbus. Moses is an unmitigated disaster at LT. Let Compton play LT and Palumbus play RT. We'd be better off that way.

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[quote=Lmaj002;1095687]Totally agree man! Sick of hearing these jabronies put the blame on RG. He's not playing great, but neither is the o-line. For that matter, we don't get consistent performance from the def either. Collectively speaking the team constantly falls short in one way or another. Right now I'm not too concerned with any one player.[/quote]

You have got to be a troll. [U][B] Any other [/B][/U]starting QB in the NFL takes RG3's place today and it is a win. Any other QB.

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Why did we draft this guy?

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[QUOTE=Lmaj002;1095687]Totally agree man! Sick of hearing these jabronies put the blame on RG. He's not playing great, but neither is the o-line. For that matter, we don't get consistent performance from the def either. Collectively speaking the team constantly falls short in one way or another. Right now I'm not too concerned with any one player.[/QUOTE]


Hes not playing great? He is not even playing half way decent. Everyone knows the defense and oline needs a major overhaul including their respective coordinators/coaches. The problem is you cant run away from what we gave up to draft Griff. Also lets stop this BS about how the QB is just one guy. It IS a very important piece to the puzzle unless you have the 85 bears or something along those lines on D. You only have to look at any successful team over the last 100 years to see that. Of course it is a team sport, and of course you need balance and playmakers in every phase, but the QB is damn important.


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[QUOTE=Hijinx;1095689]You have got to be a troll. [U][B] Any other [/B][/U]starting QB in the NFL takes RG3's place today and it is a win. Any other QB.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree!

While the O Line totally sux

The Defense played well enough for the Redskins to win today.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1095688]OK, don't jump on me for this: we need to bring back Tyler Palumbus. Moses is an unmitigated disaster at LT. Let Compton play LT and Palumbus play RT. We'd be better off that way.[/quote]

While Tyler is a turnstile there was a reason he started the season. I think the Moses decision is mostly talent eval at this point.