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[quote=That Guy;1103071]again, why anoint someone and limit your options? at 7mill i'd pass on rak. it's only on the outside chance we can get him for $4-6mill that it'd be an actual option. otherwise we can look elsewhere. even without rak, i wouldn't just declare murphy as the starter. there's no upside in that, 9 months away from a real game.[/quote]

Again, Trent Murphy was more productive than Rak this year. U can pay someone the vet min and get better production than rak. Look I'm not happy about it. Wish he woulda made a bigger impact.

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[quote=Giantone;1103034]So why would anyone hire Belichick after his time with the Browns ?

Pete Carroll after his time with the Jets or Patriots ?[/quote]

Remind me again, did those situations end with highly embarrassing leaks, public tiffs with management, and disagreements with and ultimately the benching of their starting quarterback on the scale that it was here in DC?

The mess he left is reason enough he should be toxic around the league.

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[quote=budw38;1103063][url=http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/12118296/stuart-scott-espn-anchor-dies-age-49]Stuart Scott, ESPN anchor, dies at age of 49 - ESPN[/url] Sad news , Stuart Scott has passed .... R.I.P. Mr. Scott .[/quote]

That's awful news. I wasn't even aware he was sick.

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[quote=mbedner3420;1103085]Remind me again, did those situations end with highly embarrassing leaks, public tiffs with management, and disagreements with and ultimately the benching of their starting quarterback on the scale that it was here in DC?

The mess he left is reason enough he should be toxic around the league.[/quote]

Unless I missed something, 2014 wasn't exactly great for the Redskins. All Shanahan has to do is point to the last 6 months here and say "See. It wasn't me. It's a shitty organization"

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[quote=That Guy;1103055]orakpo is still a good player, but not at $10mill/year.

see what the market offers, then decide what to do. no need to limit your options any earlier than necessary. and right now, his value has never been lower, which means you could get a potential price/performance steal... it just depends on how much other teams are willing to overlook this year in their desperate attempt to find FA pass rushers.[/quote]

Totally agree.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1103092]Unless I missed something, 2014 wasn't exactly great for the Redskins. All Shanahan has to do is point to the last 6 months here and say "See. It wasn't me. It's a shitty organization"[/quote]

And he'd be right. Shanahan is no idiot. If this franchise had its sh*t together with a personnel/scouting department on a level anywhere above incompetent buffoonery, and without a conniving headcase rookie QB subverting him at every turn that we didn't mortgage the future for, he'd have been successful here.

It's amazing that so many people still want to believe Shanny was Satan when it should be plain as day that this team is a dumpster fire surrounded by a minefield that *nobody* can out-maneuver.

I know that puts me at odds with about 98% of the members here. So fire away...

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[quote=Beemnseven;1103125]And he'd be right. Shanahan is no idiot. If this franchise had its sh*t together with a personnel/scouting department on a level anywhere above incompetent buffoonery, and without a conniving headcase rookie QB subverting him at every turn that we didn't mortgage the future for, he'd have been successful here.

It's amazing that so many people still want to believe Shanny was Satan when it should be plain as day that this team is a dumpster fire surrounded by a minefield that *nobody* can out-maneuver.

I know that puts me at odds with about 98% of the members here. So fire away...[/quote]

My problem with Shanahan is not with whether or not he was right. It is about how he went about being right.

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[quote=Chico23231;1103080]Again, Trent Murphy was more productive than Rak this year. [/quote]

and where did i say he wasn't?

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[url=http://www.richmond.com/redskins-xtra/article_23331136-ed7a-5cce-8b5f-a4164d4d1f0f.html]Redskins among the teams eligible for 'Hard Knocks' - Richmond.com: Redskins XTRA[/url]

Hard knocks?

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[quote=Chico23231;1103267][url=http://www.richmond.com/redskins-xtra/article_23331136-ed7a-5cce-8b5f-a4164d4d1f0f.html]Redskins among the teams eligible for 'Hard Knocks' - Richmond.com: Redskins XTRA[/url]

Hard knocks?[/quote]

I hope not. We do fit the profile for sure though. If we were on there, I don't even want to think about the nAme change crowd coming out of the woodwork. Mad drama, kids. Mad. Drama.

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new rule change - home team cannot replay plays on the jumbotron when there is a flag on the play and a new snap has not taken place yet.

several lions players say officials were looking at the jumbotron prior to picking up the flag. are flags subject to video review? no.

this is kinda like the clock boy letting a few extra seconds tick off in college basketball if it favors the home team ... or the possession arrow not being changed when it should have given possession to the away team (maryland vs duke)

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[quote=over the mountain;1103289][B]new rule change - home team cannot replay plays on the jumbotron when there is a flag on the play and a new snap has not taken place yet. [/B]
several lions players say officials were looking at the jumbotron prior to picking up the flag. are flags subject to video review? no.

this is kinda like the clock boy letting a few extra seconds tick off in college basketball if it favors the home team ... or the possession arrow not being changed when it should have given possession to the away team (maryland vs duke)[/quote]

Yup. That would be an excellent rule.

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Here's an interesting tidbit:

[url]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/refs-missed-2nd-obvious-penalty-152253950.html[/url]

one quick question, why is it in the finance section of Yahoo?

Reffing this year either was paid off in some instances or at the least, as abysmal as the replacement refs were, and this is during the playoffs.

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Al Davis must be turning in his grave, Shanahan interviews with Raiders:

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/mike-shanahan-interviews-with-raiders-----really-181604450.html[/url]

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I just saw the PI play for the first time. All I can say is Wow!, the guy never turned around, and ran through the receiver. I would say that it just shows that PI should be reviewable, except that I have seen them blow calls after going to replay and then give a bogus justification.

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I wasn't aware he was a Cowboys fan until yesterday... didn't think it was possible to have any more disgust for the guy but he pulled it off.

[url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/05/will-chris-christie-regret-his-cowboy-hug.html]Will Chris Christie Regret His Cowboy Hug? - The Daily Beast[/url]

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Uh yea, thats a stupid ass move by Christie.
The guy has no class.

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Redskins treat Shanahan at an expensive steakhouse and the 49ers treat Shanahan to Chevy's. I think Shanahan will be the new HC of the 49ers very soon.

[url]https://twitter.com/KPIXSPORTS/status/551923441440284672/photo/1[/url]

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A source informed John Middlekauff of 957 The Game Bay Area that Mike Shanahan could be hired as the Bills' general manager with Browns OC Kyle Shanahan as head coach.

We're sorry, Bills fans. This would be brutal. Bills in-name GM Doug Whaley was reported to be leading the search for a new head coach, but it's now been revealed new owner Terry Pegula is conducting interviews. The Bills have requested interviews with as many as 13 head-coaching candidates. The Shanahan duo wouldn't be awful in a head coach-offensive coordinator tandem, but allowing them to make all personnel decisions would be taking a huge leap of faith.

per rotoworld....this would be insane.

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[quote=Mattyk;1103336]I wasn't aware he was a Cowboys fan until yesterday... didn't think it was possible to have any more disgust for the guy but he pulled it off.

[url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/05/will-chris-christie-regret-his-cowboy-hug.html]Will Chris Christie Regret His Cowboy Hug? - The Daily Beast[/url][/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/12127738/chris-christie-part-dallas-cowboys-mojo-jerry-jones-says]Chris Christie part of Dallas Cowboys' 'mojo,' Jerry Jones says - ESPN Dallas[/url]

According to the International Business Times, Christie might have violated state ethics rules in accepting a plane ride and tickets from Jones to the game. Public officials have a "zero tolerance policy for acceptance of gifts," from people who have business with the politician.[B] Christie barred New Jersey officials from receiving tickets to event at state-owned venues leading up to last year's Super Bowl at MetLife Stadium.[/B]

Christie spokesman Kevin Roberts told NJ.com that Jones picked up the tab for Christie and the governor's family, citing The Code of Conduct for the Governor in which the governor, "may accept gifts, favors, services, gratuities, meals, lodging or travel expenses from relatives or personal friends that are paid for with personal funds."

What a freakin hypocrite. damn

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[quote=Mattyk;1103336]I wasn't aware he was a Cowboys fan until yesterday... [B]didn't think it was possible to have any more disgust for the guy but he pulled it off.[/B]

[url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/05/will-chris-christie-regret-his-cowboy-hug.html]Will Chris Christie Regret His Cowboy Hug? - The Daily Beast[/url][/quote]

I couldn't agree more. Makes my stomach turn: "He's part of our mojo," Jones said Tuesday on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas. "I want him there all the way. [B]I'll tell you, if he's got enough mojo to pull this thing out, he ought to be looked at as president of the United States[/B]."

Hopefully, that "mojo" (both for the Cowpukes and Christie) gets the life stomped out of it on the frozen tundra in Lambeau this weekend. Please, oh please Packers -- run up a score.

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[quote=Chico23231;1103394][url=http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/12127738/chris-christie-part-dallas-cowboys-mojo-jerry-jones-says]Chris Christie part of Dallas Cowboys' 'mojo,' Jerry Jones says - ESPN Dallas[/url]

According to the International Business Times, Christie might have violated state ethics rules in accepting a plane ride and tickets from Jones to the game. Public officials have a "zero tolerance policy for acceptance of gifts," from people who have business with the politician.[B] Christie barred New Jersey officials from receiving tickets to event at state-owned venues leading up to last year's Super Bowl at MetLife Stadium.[/B]

Christie spokesman Kevin Roberts told NJ.com that Jones picked up the tab for Christie and the governor's family, citing The Code of Conduct for the Governor in which the governor, "may accept gifts, favors, services, gratuities, meals, lodging or travel expenses from relatives or personal friends that are paid for with personal funds."

What a freakin hypocrite. damn[/quote]

Hypocrite? I wonder whether it would be considered a crime; that code of conduct quote sounds dubious to me. Ask Bob McDonnell about that.

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[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/06/christies-free-trip-to-dallas-raises-ethics-concerns/[/url]

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[quote=calia;1103403]Hypocrite? I wonder whether it would be considered a crime; that code of conduct quote sounds dubious to me. Ask Bob McDonnell about that.[/quote]

Does the State of New Jersey or Christie himself have some sort of business relationship with Jerry Jones? Bob McDonnell was accused of taking "gifts" from people that were looking to do business with the state of Va. At that point, it goes from being a gift to being a bribe.

Its not a conflict of interest if no business dealings are present or none appear in the future while he is still in office.

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[quote=Chico23231;1103385]A source informed John Middlekauff of 957 The Game Bay Area that Mike Shanahan could be hired as the Bills' general manager with Browns OC Kyle Shanahan as head coach.

We're sorry, Bills fans. [B]This would be brutal.[/B] Bills in-name GM Doug Whaley was reported to be leading the search for a new head coach, but it's now been revealed new owner Terry Pegula is conducting interviews. The Bills have requested interviews with as many as 13 head-coaching candidates. The Shanahan duo wouldn't be awful in a head coach-offensive coordinator tandem, but allowing them to make all personnel decisions would be taking a huge leap of faith.

per rotoworld....this would be insane.[/quote]

Seriously. Mike Shanahan's personnel decision-making here was a disaster, and Pat Bowlen in Denver ultimately fired him for that same reason. Why would Buffalo expect that to suddenly change? I really, really doubt this happens.

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[quote=Skinzman;1103413]Does the State of New Jersey or Christie himself have some sort of business relationship with Jerry Jones? Bob McDonnell was accused of taking "gifts" from people that were looking to do business with the state of Va. At that point, it goes from being a gift to being a bribe.

[B]Its not a conflict of interest if no business dealings are present or none appear in the future while he is still in office[/B].[/quote]

To quote the article that Matty posted: "The problem for Christie comes from Jones’ business relationship with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which is controlled by Christie and New York governor Andrew Cuomo. Jones partially owns Legends Hospitality, which will operate the soon-to-be-opened observatory at the new One World Trade Center. It’s a deal that is expected to generate $875 million in revenue over 15 years.

Obviously, the appropriate people are denying that Christie had any influence over the situation. Regardless of any actual impropriety, there’s a clear appearance of potential impropriety."

So, yes, I think there is the potential that this crossed the line. And separately of whether there was an ethical violation or an actual crime, politicians accepting lavish gifts (and so publicly flaunting them no less) is just bad -- it undermines whatever confidence peopkle have in their public servants. Anyone with integrity -- much less someone hoping to be President someday -- ought to know better and err on the side of caution. I like that Christie is so plain spoken -- more politicians ought to be. But he's also an arrogant jerk, and his Cowboy fandom.

Separately, I just got an ESPN notifier that Scott M. is oiur new GM!!

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[url=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-dolphins-put-mike-tannenbaum-over-football-operations-20150106-story.html]Dolphins put Mike Tannenbaum over football operations - Sun Sentinel[/url]

The Dolphins have gone full retard.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1103480][url=http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-dolphins-put-mike-tannenbaum-over-football-operations-20150106-story.html]Dolphins put Mike Tannenbaum over football operations - Sun Sentinel[/url]

The Dolphins have gone full retard.[/quote]

A good friend is a Dolphins fan. Let's just say that the emails we've exchanged today about our teams' respective hires has been more fun for me than for him.

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[quote=calia;1103431]To quote the article that Matty posted: "The problem for Christie comes from Jones’ business relationship with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which is controlled by Christie and New York governor Andrew Cuomo. Jones partially owns Legends Hospitality, which will operate the soon-to-be-opened observatory at the new One World Trade Center. It’s a deal that is expected to generate $875 million in revenue over 15 years.

Obviously, the appropriate people are denying that Christie had any influence over the situation. Regardless of any actual impropriety, there’s a clear appearance of potential impropriety."

So, yes, I think there is the potential that this crossed the line. And separately of whether there was an ethical violation or an actual crime, politicians accepting lavish gifts (and so publicly flaunting them no less) is just bad -- it undermines whatever confidence peopkle have in their public servants. Anyone with integrity -- much less someone hoping to be President someday -- ought to know better and err on the side of caution. I like that Christie is so plain spoken -- more politicians ought to be. But he's also an arrogant jerk, and his Cowboy fandom.

Separately, I just got an ESPN notifier that Scott M. is oiur new GM!![/quote]

If thats true about Jerry's dealing with the Port Authority, then I agree, thats starting to look less like a gift and more like a bribe (or reward after the fact which can still be construed as a bribe imo). I really have no problem with him being in Jerry's box, but when Jerry is picking up the tab for travel and all that stuff, that definitely looks bad. Christie should have paid for everything himself to avoid the whole gift/bribe thing since Jerry has dealings with at least some factions of the NJ Govt.

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Brian Mitchell says the skins should go get suh. Honestly I'd do it if we played the 43. What do yal think

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I think I will let McCloughan make the call.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1103515]Brian Mitchell says the skins should go get suh. Honestly I'd do it if we played the 43. What do yal think[/quote]

What would he cost ? $16+ million a year .................. too much

[B]next year they need to resign Kerrigan too[/B]

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He's an elite player though and with Kerrigan that would be scary.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1103515]Brian Mitchell says the skins should go get suh. Honestly I'd do it if we played the 43. What do yal think[/QUOTE]


Hell no. We suck, one d lineman is not going go fix our defense. We need to build through the draft, find an identity and win some games. Once that happens then we can think about poaching potential free agents, as of now I want nothing to do with any free agency "splashes".

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Well we can still build through the draft

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1103515]Brian Mitchell says the skins should go get suh. Honestly I'd do it if we played the 43. What do yal think[/quote]



Yeah, let's revert back to doing things the old same shitty way we've done the past decade. :doh:

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Mitchell says some dumb shit sometimes.

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against "the best line in the nfl" he dominated. I wouldn't pay him 15M a yr though

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Hopefully, a pig like that will go to the Rayda's