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[quote=skinsfan69;1168234]I do find it funny that they cut Ricky Jean after he mouthed off about the FO. Why not release the guy weeks ago if you knew you were not going to keep him? It's just seems like more Redskins FO BS.[/quote]

Or they were waiting to figure out how things would shake out in the first days of free agency and then decide on any moves with current players. But I'm sure he mouthing off about the FO didn't help.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1168230]I put in an order for Hankins and Zack Brown but the FO doesn't seem to be listening to either of us.[/quote]


reportedly Hankins is asking for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and no one is interested at the price he wants

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168271]reportedly Hankins is asking for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and no one is interested at the price he wants[/quote]

That's fine. He'll lower his asking price in time. I'd take him on a reasonable one year deal.

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Darius Butler visiting the Redskins... per Jason LaC

[url=http://chi.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Darius-Butler-is-visiting-the-Bears-51720604]Report: Darius Butler is visiting the Bears[/url]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/dariusbutler/79897/profile]Darius Butler, FS for the Indianapolis Colts at NFL.com[/url]

And a 82 PFF rating...... he plays CB and free safety. He would be a nice addition, at the right price.

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Poe to Atlanta... 1 year $8+ million.... with bonuses could reach $10 million

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DL is too rich especially if the college draft turns out to be anywhere near as good as speculated.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1168290]DL is too rich especially if the college draft turns out to be anywhere near as good as speculated.[/quote]I'm not overly enthused by the linemen that we've signed so far. The FO better address the interior early in the draft, or the run defense will continue to be a sieve.

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Per MasterTes: Redskins have signed LB Chris Carter. Played 9 games w/the Colts last season. Has appeared in 62 regular season games in 6 seasons.

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[quote=dej733;1168297]Per MasterTes: Redskins have signed LB Chris Carter. Played 9 games w/the Colts last season. Has appeared in 62 regular season games in 6 seasons.[/quote]

Perfect! When does the season start? LET'S GET THIS!!!!

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[quote=dej733;1168297]Per MasterTes: Redskins have signed LB Chris Carter. Played 9 games w/the Colts last season. Has appeared in 62 regular season games in 6 seasons.[/quote]

Replacement for Terence Garvin most likely...special team contributor etc.

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[quote=Chico23231;1168300]Replacement for Terence Garvin most likely...special team contributor etc.[/quote]

Carter has a slightly better chance than Chico of making the team. A tenth year vet gets a minimum of close to a million dollars. A rookie makes about half that. And there is nothing in Carter's resume that says he has more value than a tackling dummy.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/chriscarter/2508126/profile]Chris Carter, LB for the Indianapolis Colts at NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1168228]From what little I've seen of McClain, I really like his motor. He seems to be a good penetrator and he is good versus the run. He was double-teamed a lot. I'm optimistic about his contributions.

McGee definitely has a reputation for not playing hard enough. I'm wondering if Jim Tomsula has a relationship with him and thinks he can motivate him. McGee is big and talented. If he puts out better effort, I think he could be a good player for us.

BTW,[B] I like the Ziggy Hood signing. [/B]He played hard for us last season.[/quote]

I watched most of the games & I don't remember Ziggy ever being a factor.
Wasn't he the lowest rated DT in the entire league last year?

I can't be more in shock that they would bring that guy back.

Hopefully, he will tear it up this year, but I won't be holding my breath.

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Interesting Keim is hinting that a lot folks assumed Ricky jean and baker were big lockerroom guys. Apparently, they were but maybe the message didn't always jive with the staff or some of the players. One thing was true, the dline was bad the last couple years.

On the other hand, dhall is someone they want back, maybe a better leader in the lockerroom.

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[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000793446/article/dontari-poe-atlanta-falcons-agree-on-oneyear-deal"]Poe's signed with Falcons.[/URL]

Guess only legit DL left is Hankins? Otherwise we gamble with the draft, and the older DL that are released later in May-August....

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[quote=skinsfan69;1168234]I do find it funny that they cut Ricky Jean after he mouthed off about the FO. Why not release the guy weeks ago if you knew you were not going to keep him? It's just seems like more Redskins FO BS.[/quote]

Do you think your grasping on this on?

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Hankins wants $10 million a year. This why it was foolish not to draft a DL until the 5th round in 2016. And why they must get two good ones early in the 2017 draft.

Manusky says he has 3 NGs now... Phillip Taylor, Joey Mbu Houston U, and Matt I. And says Lanier is now 290..... he must be sarcastic if he is counting on any of them

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/16/report-johnathan-hankins-looking-for-10-million-per-year/?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat]Report: Johnathan Hankins looking for $10 million-plus per year | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168329]Hankins wants $10 million a year. This why it was foolish not to draft a DL until the 5th round in 2016. And why they must get two good ones early in the 2017 draft.

Manusky says he has 3 NGs now... Phillip Taylor, Joey Mbu Houston U, and Matt I. And says Lanier is now 290..... he must be sarcastic if he is counting on any of them

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/16/report-johnathan-hankins-looking-for-10-million-per-year/?utm_campaign=Contact+Quiboat+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=quiboat]Report: Johnathan Hankins looking for $10 million-plus per year | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I won't say that Hankins can't get $10M because there has been some big money thrown around for average DL's in FA this year. I can say that I wouldn't pay him $10M. I'm struggling to understand the big DL FA contracts because the draft is absolutely loaded with DL talent this year.

Agree with you that a DL should have been picked early in last year's draft. Some of the early round DL's from last year's draft are developing nicely throughout the league.

Players develop over time, some slower than others, so i think Matt I. has a chance to contribute at DT this season. Im hoping that Jim Tomsula can get him ready.

I'm excited to hear that Lanier is now at 290 pounds. He is a talent at DE and I think he could provide us with effective pass-rushing from the DE position. Dare I say that he might become a star in a year or two?

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[quote=Bangee7;1168308]I watched most of the games & I don't remember Ziggy ever being a factor.
Wasn't he the lowest rated DT in the entire league last year?

I can't be more in shock that they would bring that guy back.

Hopefully, he will tear it up this year, but I won't be holding my breath.[/quote]

Well, the Skins agree with me and PFF agrees with you, so we'll see.

Perhaps you didn't notice this last season, but every time Ziggy was about to make a tackle either Big Swaggy or Ricky-Jean would push him out of the way or trip him so one of them could make the tackle instead. It's true! Would I lie about that just to win an argument?

PFF should have a stat for greedy teammate interference with a tackling opportunity. If they did Ziggy would have been rated much higher.

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Except for
Swearinger, our acquisitions have sucked. Quit trying to put lipstick on a hog. None of these guys sans Swearinger will have a shot at starting. They were better off trying to keep
Baker.

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The signings were about depth at best and keeping money for Kirk.

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1168335]Except for
Swearinger, our acquisitions have sucked. Quit trying to put lipstick on a hog. None of these guys sans Swearinger will have a shot at starting. They were better off trying to keep
Baker.[/quote]

On defense, yes. On offense I'm pleased with the Pryor signing.

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1168335]Except for
Swearinger, our acquisitions have sucked. Quit trying to put lipstick on a hog. None of these guys sans Swearinger will have a shot at starting. They were better off trying to keep
Baker.[/quote]

If the draft is full of DL then I would wait and see what we do there.

In today's NFL the draft is so important, you need those quality rookie guys to build from plus they come on the cheap for 4 years.

The off season is far from over. Back in the day everyone was pissed when we went after the big fish now that we hold back everyone is still pissed. Damned if you do damned if you don't.

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Darius Butler resigns with the Colts. Big loss

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[quote=Irrefutable;1168346]Darius Butler resigns with the Colts. Big loss[/quote]

I think FS is pretty much Hall's job this year.

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[quote=mredskins;1168351]I think FS is pretty much Hall's job this year.[/quote]

It would be foolish to count on DHall, he has been injured the last 3 seasons. Hall has a total of 3 passes defended in the last 3 seasons. And he is 33 years old. If he does not take a major pay cut, he will not make the team.

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[quote=mredskins;1168351]I think FS is pretty much Hall's job this year.[/quote]

I think it is Swearinger's job

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[quote=mredskins;1168351]I think FS is pretty much Hall's job this year.[/quote]

Huh?

Who are you sitting down, Cravens or Swearinger?

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[quote=Schneed10;1168356]Huh?

Who are you sitting down, Cravens or Swearinger?[/quote]

Oh right Cravens, I forgot he is moving back. My bad.

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Yeah, Manusky said he liked swearinger moving around but liked him high. and Cooley on his film breakdown said that he was at FS most of the snaps in AZ. He also said something along the lines of him not being the same type of in the box player as Cravens. He called him a "peacock tackler," that he makes a show that he is going to hit you big, but doesn't quite deliver the blow and often is a shoestring tackler. He also said he does a good job of tackling well without hitting illegally. He gave him a B+ as a player.

When I watched highlights it looked like he was a hard hitting safety and much of what is said about him otherwise makes him out to be similar to a ravens, so I don't know. Are the Redskins trying to fit a square peg? Do they see something others don't? Or is his style misunderstood by the laymen but seen differently by football guys? Either way, I believe our Safety position is much improved with him here.

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As far as Hall, they've said they want to see what he's got left in him. He says he'd take a pay cut to stay. I think he will likely renegotiate and get a chance to compete, especially now that Butler is off the block.

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Jeez... time to move on from Hall already. His body is not going to hold up. Just go in another direction with some younger guys. I feel like he hasn't played in two years.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1168361]Jeez... time to move on from Hall already. His body is not going to hold up. Just go in another direction with some younger guys. I feel like he hasn't played in two years.[/quote]

NFL.com listed 2 corners that they
Skins visited with at the senior bowl. Hall needs to retire.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1168361]Jeez... time to move on from Hall already. His body is not going to hold up. Just go in another direction with some younger guys. I feel like he hasn't played in two years.[/quote]

It's because he's played like 1/2 a game in two years. Can't believe they are counting on him for anything.

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Jay and Bruce love dhall...I see him contributing to the upcoming season somehow. Whether it's on the field or not. Tough to see him returning to the field though

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[quote=Chico23231;1168365]Jay and Bruce love dhall...I see him contributing to the upcoming season somehow. Whether it's on the field or not. Tough to see him returning to the field though[/quote]

it's not unheard of for dbs to have successful careers into their late 30's. i know he's had significant injuries the past couple years, but he's 33.

here's to giving him the benefit of the doubt!

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[quote=mooby;1168363]It's because he's played like 1/2 a game in two years. Can't believe they are counting on him for anything.[/quote]

yeah . . . nobody said they were counting on him for anything . . . they said they like his leadership and would love to have him around if he is healthy . . . and even stated they have no clue where he is even at in his rehab

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1168367]yeah . . . nobody said they were counting on him for anything . . . they said they like his leadership and would love to have him around if he is healthy . . . and even stated they have no clue where he is even at in his rehab[/quote]

Well the fact that he hasn't restructured or been released indicates they are counting on him to be a player for the Redskins this upcoming season.

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[quote=mooby;1168368]Well the fact that he hasn't restructured or been released indicates they are counting on him to be a player for the Redskins this upcoming season.[/quote]

he will restructure when/if it's necessary.

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Tweet on Ziggy's contract... two years ?... looks like a $1,150,000. cap hit, if he makes the team in 2017

Ziggy Hood's deal $2.7M, $300K signing bonus, salaries, $900K, $1M, $15,625 per game active, $600K incentive, $600K escalator

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/30588/redskins-avoiding-big-deals-but-skepticism-remains-over-early-moves]Redskins avoiding big deals, but skepticism remains over early moves - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]