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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232576]Out of the 6 remaining 0-4 teams:

Arizona: First year Head Coach
Denver: First year head coach
Miami: First year Head Coach
Cincinnati: First year Head Coach
NYJ: [B]Coach in his first year there[/B]

Redskins: 6th year Head Coach.[/quote]

Did you run out of "First year head coach"?
This is a good point. The core of the team should've been established by now but we still don't know who our QB is.

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I wonder if Minn would consider hiring Gruden as OC to help get KC back on track since they are stuck with him another few years.

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[quote=jamf;1232579]I wonder if Minn would consider hiring Gruden as OC to help get KC back on track since they are stuck with him another few years.[/quote]

Jay will go to Vegas to join his brother.

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Article title: Washington releases WR Robert Davis, which could hint at Terry McLaurin's return

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232558]I'm gonna give Haskins a pass. Because…I don't know if Daniel Jones would've looked good in Washington, or anybody, because nobody's coaching there. There's no conditioning, there's no coaching. They're an expansion team."

Michael Lombardi[/quote]

Good Lord Lombardi is a savage. He has just been killing the Redskins.

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Article: Bill Belichick: The Redskins' Use Of Play Action Highlights An Offense That 'Makes You Defend Everything

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Danny might just keep him for the whole season[misery loves company??]on the other hand,if we lose to Miami and it's highly possible,he might make a change.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232576]Out of the 6 remaining 0-4 teams:

Arizona: First year Head Coach
Denver: First year head coach
Miami: First year Head Coach
Cincinnati: First year Head Coach
NYJ: Coach in his first year there

Redskins: 6th year Head Coach.[/quote]

This is an outstanding stat. Not only indicative of the coach, but the entire franchise. There is no plan or vision

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[quote=Indian-brave;1232583]Article title: Washington releases WR Robert Davis, which could hint at Terry McLaurin's return[/quote]

[IMG]https://img-aws.ehowcdn.com/638x318/photos.demandstudios.com/getty/article/41/176/78364766_XS.jpg[/IMG]

We like links around here. Backup your sources.

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[quote=mooby;1232588][IMG]https://img-aws.ehowcdn.com/638x318/photos.demandstudios.com/getty/article/41/176/78364766_XS.jpg[/IMG]

We like links around here. Backup your sources.[/quote]

it's the exact title, copied. I didn't bother with link because title says all you need to know. Pretty simple.
The rest is redundant jibberish.
When a fuller thought is needed, thats when I'll bother.

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[quote=Indian-brave;1232591]it's the exact title, copied. I didn't bother with link because title says all you need to know. Pretty simple.
The rest is redundant jibberish.
When a fuller thought is needed, thats when I'll bother.[/quote]

Don't try to reinvent the wheel here. Nobody gives a fuck if you don't wanna read the article.

If you post a headline, include the link.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1232576]Out of the 6 remaining 0-4 teams:



Arizona: First year Head Coach

Denver: First year head coach

Miami: First year Head Coach

Cincinnati: First year Head Coach

NYJ: Coach in his first year there



Redskins: 6th year Head Coach.[/QUOTE]



Well this is encouraging....

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[QUOTE=Indian-brave;1232591]it's the exact title, copied. I didn't bother with link because title says all you need to know. Pretty simple.

The rest is redundant jibberish.

When a fuller thought is needed, thats when I'll bother.[/QUOTE]



After over two years you burst on to the scene with the most absurd post I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading when you told us that Dan Snyder has nothing to do with the ineptitude of this team. You should have been banned right than and there. Since than all you do is challenge everyone with these absurd predictions and you sound like a complete asshole. Get lost dude.

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[quote=punch it in;1232602]After over two years you burst on to the scene with the most absurd post I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading when you told us that Dan Snyder has nothing to do with the ineptitude of this team. You should have been banned right than and there. Since than all you do is challenge everyone with these absurd predictions and you sound like a complete asshole. Get lost dude.[/quote]

You don't get it. Owners aren't acting as independent individuals. The league is one entertainment company. Snyder profits whether team.wins or loses. Same as all players make a million whether they win or lose. Snyder doesn't care about you. No owner cares about you.
Profit sharing and tv contracts eliminate needing to compete with each other. They all make money if all they ever sold was brady jerseys. Snyder isn't the problem. It's the league as a whole.

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[quote=punch it in;1232602]After over two years you burst on to the scene with the most absurd post I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading when you told us that Dan Snyder has nothing to do with the ineptitude of this team. You should have been banned right than and there. Since than all you do is challenge everyone with these absurd predictions and you sound like a complete asshole. Get lost dude.[/quote]

Time for the Mod Squad. Honestly, the posts are pure trolling and don't have even a passing facsimile to reasoned discussion. (Meaning the posts from "brave," not you Punch.)

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[QUOTE=Indian-brave;1232605]You don't get it. Owners aren't acting as independent individuals. The league is one entertainment company. Snyder profits whether team.wins or loses. Same as all players make a million whether they win or lose. Snyder doesn't care about you. No owner cares about you.

Profit sharing and tv contracts eliminate needing to compete with each other. They all make money if all they ever sold was brady jerseys. Snyder isn't the problem. It's the league as a whole.[/QUOTE]



Thanks for letting us know Snyder doesn’t care about anything than money. Where would we all be without you? Seriously just go away dude. You are worse than this season is so far.

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[QUOTE=calia;1232606]Time for the Mod Squad. Honestly, the posts are pure trolling and don't have even a passing facsimile to reasoned discussion. (Meaning the posts from "brave," not you Punch.)[/QUOTE]Well lets not give Punch to much credit either!!!

:food-smil

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1232609]Well lets not give Punch to much credit either!!!

:food-smil

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Don’t make me man crush on Cousins all over this board. Im finally getting over it!

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[quote=calia;1232606]Time for the Mod Squad. Honestly, the posts are pure trolling and don't have even a passing facsimile to reasoned discussion. (Meaning the posts from "brave," not you Punch.)[/quote]

I'm not saying anything negative to or about anyone here, .nor am I making fun of the team. Being positive is trolling.? What I am is a mature , intelligent adult who will be right with my prediction come sunday.
You are In effect saying someone needs to talk and act exactly like you ,or they are wrong and not accepted.
Some people actually know things that you don't know.

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[QUOTE=Indian-brave;1232611]I'm not saying anything negative to or about anyone here, .nor am I making fun of the team. Being positive is trolling.? What I am is a mature , intelligent adult who will be right with my prediction come sunday.

You are In effect saying someone needs to talk and act exactly like you ,or they are wrong and not accepted.

Some people actually know things that you don't know.[/QUOTE]No, we are saying you need to use more than just "I know" as the basis for your comments. Making grandiose statements without proof or substance doesn't add value to this board's discussions.

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[QUOTE=Indian-brave;1232611]I'm not saying anything negative to or about anyone here, .nor am I making fun of the team. Being positive is trolling.? What I am is a mature , intelligent adult who will be right with my prediction come sunday.

You are In effect saying someone needs to talk and act exactly like you ,or they are wrong and not accepted.

Some people actually know things that you don't know.[/QUOTE]



Yes but by virtue of your inane babble, it is clear you aren’t one of them. Coming on to the site and suggesting that Snyder is blameless, that we are somehow going to win Sunday based on the calendar, and your other unsubstantiated nonsense IS trolling. Don’t insult the collective intelligence of folks on this site to suggest otherwise.


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[quote=calia;1232613]Yes but by virtue of your inane babble, it is clear you aren’t one of them. Coming on to the site and suggesting that Snyder is blameless, that we are somehow going to win Sunday based on the calendar, and your other unsubstantiated nonsense IS trolling. Don’t insult the collective intelligence of folks on this site to suggest otherwise.


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No. It qualifies as things you do not know. Watching guys catch balls on your tv does not qualify as understanding owners intentions OR how the league operates. You can't prove me wrong by simply insulting my view. Owners are puppets who let the league decide who wins. You saw that in the Rams,Saints playoff game and you still don't get it?

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[quote=Indian-brave;1232614]No. It qualifies as things you do not know. Watching guys catch balls on your tv does not qualify as understanding owners intentions OR how the league operates. You can't prove me wrong by simply insulting my view. Owners are puppets who let the league decide who wins. You saw that in the Rams,Saints playoff game and you still don't get it?[/quote]

Tin foil is supposed to be used in the oven, not on your head.

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[URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stephen-a-smith-says-gruden-has-quit-on-the-redskins-and-will-be-fired-next-week/ar-AAI7NJX?li=BBnb7Kz"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stephen-a-smith-says-gruden-has-quit-on-the-redskins-and-will-be-fired-next-week/ar-AAI7NJX?li=BBnb7Kz[/URL]

Stephen A Smith says Gruden will be fired next week.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1232616][URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stephen-a-smith-says-gruden-has-quit-on-the-redskins-and-will-be-fired-next-week/ar-AAI7NJX?li=BBnb7Kz[/URL]



Stephen A Smith says Gruden will be fired next week.[/QUOTE]



Was just going to share this. Very interesting. Let’s all be honest. Jay Gruden isn’t the root problem here....


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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232616][URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stephen-a-smith-says-gruden-has-quit-on-the-redskins-and-will-be-fired-next-week/ar-AAI7NJX?li=BBnb7Kz"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/stephen-a-smith-says-gruden-has-quit-on-the-redskins-and-will-be-fired-next-week/ar-AAI7NJX?li=BBnb7Kz[/URL]

Stephen A Smith says Gruden will be fired next week.[/quote]



[quote=5superbowls3wins;1232617]Was just going to share this. Very interesting. Let’s all be honest. Jay Gruden isn’t the root problem here....


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He is a part of the problem.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1232622]He is a part of the problem.[/QUOTE]



Agreed, but Bruce Allen needs to go too. The entire organization needs to be scrubbed.


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Gruden is set up to fail but I still don't want him as my coach. We will never be able to run the ball with him as HC.

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BA needs to be fired first and replaced by the scouting Director Kyle Smith.

Gruden fired next and replaced by O’Connell.

Let the NEW GM find a new DC along with O’Connell. Manusky needs to go ASAP. But with the right replacement.

All after the Patriots ass whooping.


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1232625]Agreed, but Bruce Allen needs to go too. The entire organization needs to be scrubbed.


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I think they should fire everyone all the way down to the people that clean the offices at Redskins Park. Time for a fresh start.

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Time for a dose of reality. Take your medicine and stop dreaming.

1. Dan Snyder will never change and he will probably outlive you. If he doesn't outlive you, then his son will inherit the team and he will be a worse owner than his old man.

2. Bruce Allen isn't going anywhere. He is exactly what Snyder wants.

3. Sure, Gruden and Manusky will be fired soon but they won't be replaced by young guns. Tomsula will probably be Interim HC and DC and Callahan will probably be appointed by Allen as the OC. Allen and Snyder have no regard for up and coming young coaches. They have proved that.

4. This clown car that used to be the Redskins under JKK will continue to roll downhill for as long as you live.

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Jay's kicking a FG from the 3 while down 14-0 was named the dumbest coaching decision of the week per the Athletic....

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232759]Jay's kicking a FG from the 3 while down 14-0 was named the dumbest coaching decision of the week per the Athletic....[/quote]

A worthy selection. Gruden could have had the QB take a knee. That would be the only play call that might have been more stupid at that point.

Honestly, it wasn't so much that the call was stupid but the impression that Gruden quit on his team that bothered me the most.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1232759]Jay's kicking a FG from the 3 while down 14-0 was named the dumbest coaching decision of the week per the Athletic....[/quote]

I disagree. Taking the penalty when they had the Giants stopped on 3rd town instead of declining and letting the Giants try a 45 yard field goal on their opening drive. Instead of down 3-0 or tied at 0-0 if they miss, the Giants convert that 3rd and long and end up getting a TD shortly there after.

With the Redskins allowing a ridiculous amount of 3rd and long conversions and the way the Giants were marching down the field no way does a coach with anything larger than a pea brain give them a 2nd chance to keep the drive alive.

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I really believe Jay came into this season looking to get fired and expecting it, he joked way too much about it in the Pre season. When we go down to NE sunday by 30+ I just don't see anyway Dan keeps him Monday.

Hire Kevin O as the new HC

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So when Gruden gets fired, who thinks he will end up telling how screwed up this organization is in regards to Dan and Bruce? We've all seen him hold nothing back when talking about players (ie. RGIII)...but will he do the same when asked about his time as head coach for the Redskins? All the things we speculate about what he does or doesn't have say over with regards to the roster, ast. coaches, draft...does Bruce have total control over him or not? Or will he keep his mouth shut...like Mike Shanahan has pretty much done.

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[QUOTE=Redskins247;1232766]So when Gruden gets fired, who thinks he will end up telling how screwed up this organization is in regards to Dan and Bruce? We've all seen him hold nothing back when talking about players (ie. RGIII)...but will he do the same when asked about his time as head coach for the Redskins? All the things we speculate about what he does or doesn't have say over with regards to the roster, ast. coaches, draft...does Bruce have total control over him or not? Or will he keep his mouth shut...like Mike Shanahan has pretty much done.[/QUOTE]If Jay wants to be a coach somewhere else he will keep his thoughts to himself.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232763]I disagree. Taking the penalty when they had the Giants stopped on 3rd town instead of declining and letting the Giants try a 45 yard field goal on their opening drive. Instead of down 3-0 or tied at 0-0 if they miss, the Giants convert that 3rd and long and end up getting a TD shortly there after.

With the Redskins allowing a ridiculous amount of 3rd and long conversions and the way the Giants were marching down the field no way does a coach with anything larger than a pea brain give then a 2nd chance to keep the drive alive.[/quote]

I think that is a great hindsight reaction but any team would take the penalty push a team out of field goal range. It is hard to fathom how really bad this team is on 3rd down that they could let that happen.

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I'd like to see them push Bruce to the side to handle the stadium and put Eric Shaffer in as team president. I think he'd hire the best football guys he can, if that's Kyle Smith for GM then it's Kyle Smith.

Then Shaffer and the GM pick the head coach.

Even better would be to fire Bruce altogether because if the dude is in the building there's still the chance he creeps back into power, but I'm trying to be realistic here.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1232763]I disagree. Taking the penalty when they had the Giants stopped on 3rd town instead of declining and letting the Giants try a 45 yard field goal on their opening drive. Instead of down 3-0 or tied at 0-0 if they miss, the Giants convert that 3rd and long and end up getting a TD shortly there after.

With the Redskins allowing a ridiculous amount of 3rd and long conversions and the way the Giants were marching down the field no way does a coach with anything larger than a pea brain give them a 2nd chance to keep the drive alive.[/quote]


[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1232770]I think that is a great hindsight reaction but any team would take the penalty push a team out of field goal range. It is hard to fathom how really bad this team is on 3rd down that they could let that happen.[/quote]

It wasn't a hindsight reaction, when the Redskins took the penalty I went ballistic. It didn't really push them out of FG range, the Giant kicker has a strong leg. After a turnover in your own end being down only 3-0 would have been a mental boost. I understand playing the percentages, but you have to factor in your teams strengths and weaknesses.