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I wonder if Sunnyside ever found any toilet paper. The country store close to me has it again, but the local as in 30 miles away Walmart is still out. I just went to the pharmacy and was talking to people who were shopping. There were also signs all over the place saying limit one on all items. So what if somebody is buying soup, you can only have one can of soup? The Safeway my girlfriend shopped at this past weekend had limits but they varied by type of item.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1248108]I wonder if Sunnyside ever found any toilet paper. The country store close to me has it again, but the local as in 30 miles away Walmart is still out. I just went to the pharmacy and was talking to people who were shopping. There were also signs all over the place saying limit one on all items. So what if somebody is buying soup, you can only have one can of soup? The Safeway my girlfriend shopped at this past weekend had limits but they varied by type of item.[/quote]

morning bob,

ive stopped going to stores, so no I havent found any. we have 4.5 rolls left. my reusable toilet paper baby wipes things came in from amazon, i feel like i just bought 30 wash clothes honestly. they will be handy for many things even if i dont use them for bathroom uses.

im basically just going to work then home at this point. brought my daughter into work on tuesday and she immediately touched public door handles, putting her fingers in her mouth etc ... so I had a panic attack and yesterday we just stayed home.

awesome day, we cleaned her room, did some homework, went for a long nature walk playing imagination minecraft, had a pizza delivered by a guy practically in a hazmat suit.

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I went to the local Food Lion today to get things I cannot buy at the country stores off the beaten path. I cruised the toilet paper, paper towel, and facial tissue isle just for the hell of it, totally cleaned out, except for 5 boxes of facial tissue. I was just there to buy OTC meds and supplements, those still had decent stock. I asked the clerk ringing up my order if the hoarding and insanity are starting to die down. He said no, and they got an overnight shipment of TP and the like late Saturday night that was put on the shelves after closing. The store opened at 7am Sunday morning and by noon their normal week's shipment of TP was gone.

All I can say is "Are you kidding me?". This hoarding and panic are making things so much worse. Your hoarding can be taking things away from people who really need them.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1248026]My work{family owned jewelry store outside Houston}closed yesterday,supposed to be temporary but I dont know if it's going to pull thru or not.We've had very few customers the past week and we we're the only store left open in the strip center because everyone else had shut down because of the virus.Now Houston has ordered the shelter in place except for essential personnel till April 3rd{but I'm thinking this will be extended,shit wont be over by then}.
Before Hurricane Harvey in 2017 they remodeled store at a cost of around 100 grand,then Harvey hits and floods the place{no flood insurance}so they take out small biz loan to re-open,now this.I dont think they can survive for extended period.I've been a jeweler for them almost 25 years,it is very depressing to think I will have to start over somewhere else after all this time at 58 years old,and thats if I will be able to find work.The jewelry stores that do survive the shutdown will not be looking to hire anyone,it's not like things are going to pick up just like they were before the virus hit,it's going to take awhile before things recover.[/quote]


Does the store have a web page they could sell Jewelry on line? Do you have a customer base you could email and have special deals to get money moving?

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[quote=SunnySide;1248142]morning bob,

ive stopped going to stores, so no I havent found any. we have 4.5 rolls left. my reusable toilet paper baby wipes things came in from amazon, i feel like i just bought 30 wash clothes honestly. they will be handy for many things even if i dont use them for bathroom uses.

im basically just going to work then home at this point. brought my daughter into work on tuesday and she immediately touched public door handles, putting her fingers in her mouth etc ... so I had a panic attack and yesterday we just stayed home.

awesome day, we cleaned her room, did some homework, went for a long nature walk playing imagination minecraft, had a pizza delivered by a guy practically in a hazmat suit.[/quote]

Are you a single father?

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[quote=Back2RFK;1248267]Are you a single father?[/quote]

Yes, her mom lives up the street and we are very cool with each other. Doing a family movie night tomorrow.
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The number of known coronavirus cases in Louisiana jumped to 2,305 on Thursday, an increase of 510 cases from Wednesday, and a total of 83 deaths, according to the Louisiana Department of Health. Nearly half of Louisiana's cases -- 997 -- came from New Orleans.

The city also reported Thursday that a 17-year-old teen died after contracting the virus, bringing the city's coronavirus death tally to 46 -- more than half of the state's total death count.

New Orleans saw its first coronavirus case on Mar. 9. Two weeks later, confirmed cases jumped to 567 and nearly doubled the following three days, marking one of the fastest coronavirus growth rates in the country.

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the face of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said officials in New Orleans were likely caught off guard by the virus' stealth spread -- until it began burgeoning.

"It putters along and you think you’re OK, then it starts to go up a little and then – bingo! – it goes up in an exponential way," he said in an interview with CNN. "That’s what's happening in New Orleans now."
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/death-rate-soars-orleans-coronavirus-013233879.html[/url]


I love New Orleans ... but man, they are not good at being on time, responding appropriately, or taking things seriously .. or living healthy ... oh my.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1248266]Does the store have a web page they could sell Jewelry on line? Do you have a customer base you could email and have special deals to get money moving?[/quote]

Unfortunately I think jewelry stores and other non essential businesses are going to take a long time to recover. I think this crisis has caused many people to be blindsided by the loss of a steady paycheck for the first time in their lives. Even if a person gets laid off or fired quite often they have seen it coming. No one could have predicted this mess. For that reason I think many people are going to save like never before. I think the big benefit of this are going to be discount stores. I think a lot of Nordstrom customers are going to end up in Walmart or Target.

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[quote=SunnySide;1248272]Yes, her mom lives up the street and [B]we are very cool with each other[/B]. Doing a family movie night tomorrow.
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The number of known coronavirus cases in Louisiana jumped to 2,305 on Thursday, an increase of 510 cases from Wednesday, and a total of 83 deaths, according to the Louisiana Department of Health. Nearly half of Louisiana's cases -- 997 -- came from New Orleans.

The city also reported Thursday that a 17-year-old teen died after contracting the virus, bringing the city's coronavirus death tally to 46 -- more than half of the state's total death count.

New Orleans saw its first coronavirus case on Mar. 9. Two weeks later, confirmed cases jumped to 567 and nearly doubled the following three days, marking one of the fastest coronavirus growth rates in the country.

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the face of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said officials in New Orleans were likely caught off guard by the virus' stealth spread -- until it began burgeoning.

"It putters along and you think you’re OK, then it starts to go up a little and then – bingo! – it goes up in an exponential way," he said in an interview with CNN. "That’s what's happening in New Orleans now."
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/death-rate-soars-orleans-coronavirus-013233879.html[/url]


I love New Orleans ... but man, they are not good at being on time, responding appropriately, or taking things seriously .. or living healthy ... oh my.[/quote]

That is so important, parents bad mouthing each other does nothing but hurt the child.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1248290]Unfortunately I think jewelry stores and other non essential businesses are going to take a long time to recover. I think this crisis has caused many people to be blindsided by the loss of a steady paycheck for the first time in their lives. Even if a person gets laid off or fired quite often they have seen it coming. No one could have predicted this mess. For that reason I think many people are going to save like never before. I think the big benefit of this are going to be discount stores. I think a lot of Nordstrom customers are going to end up in Walmart or Target.[/quote]

Well from what i heard this new relief package is suppose to match the actual lost income not just a %.

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[quote=SunnySide;1248272]Yes, her mom lives up the street and we are very cool with each other. Doing a family movie night tomorrow.
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The number of known coronavirus cases in Louisiana jumped to 2,305 on Thursday, an increase of 510 cases from Wednesday, and a total of 83 deaths, according to the Louisiana Department of Health. Nearly half of Louisiana's cases -- 997 -- came from New Orleans.

The city also reported Thursday that a 17-year-old teen died after contracting the virus, bringing the city's coronavirus death tally to 46 -- more than half of the state's total death count.

New Orleans saw its first coronavirus case on Mar. 9. Two weeks later, confirmed cases jumped to 567 and nearly doubled the following three days, marking one of the fastest coronavirus growth rates in the country.

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the face of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said officials in New Orleans were likely caught off guard by the virus' stealth spread -- until it began burgeoning.

"It putters along and you think you’re OK, then it starts to go up a little and then – bingo! – it goes up in an exponential way," he said in an interview with CNN. "That’s what's happening in New Orleans now."
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/death-rate-soars-orleans-coronavirus-013233879.html[/url]


I love New Orleans ... but man, they are not good at being on time, responding appropriately, or taking things seriously .. or living healthy ... oh my.[/quote]

I was a single dad for about 10 years before I remarried. When it came to our daughter we did what we had to do and no bad mouthing the other but I hate the bitch. She abandoned our daughter and goes on and off drugs all the time. I'm very good friends with her family and they also pretty much hate her too. LOL

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Looks like the toilet paper hoarding is getting worse not better. McMaster Carr which is a supply house to industry had toilet paper on a 3 week back order two weeks ago, the back order is now quoted at 7-8 weeks. Uline, a shipping supply company has toilet paper available to existing customers, with a limit of two cases. To be considered an existing customer you must have made a purchase as recent as 2019.

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[url]https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/photos-show-nyc-parks-still-bustling-during-global-pandemic[/url]

Photos Show NYC Parks Still Bustling During The Global Pandemic

Just remember this..it’s been like this everyday the entire time

[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/03/28/these-powerful-coronavirus-phone-tracking-maps-go-viral-heres-the-problem/#3207767d503d[/url]

I thought this data presentation was pretty good and really shows how travel has affected the spread.

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[quote=Chico23231;1248339][url]https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/photos-show-nyc-parks-still-bustling-during-global-pandemic[/url]

Photos Show NYC Parks Still Bustling During The Global Pandemic

Just remember this..it’s been like this everyday the entire time

[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/03/28/these-powerful-coronavirus-phone-tracking-maps-go-viral-heres-the-problem/#3207767d503d[/url]

I thought this data presentation was pretty good and really shows how travel has affected the spread.[/quote]

I wouldn't call that "bustling" people seem to be spaced apart. On a typical weekend people would probably be elbow to elbow there.

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I feel sorry for people who live in the city and don't have places to go away from others. This weekend was beautiful and having a yard was a blessing. Worked in the yard Saturday and went for a boat ride yesterday. Saw a ton of people on the water and very little social distancing. You could tell the families out on the water but I saw plenty of other boats packed with people who you knew were not family.

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Lots of young people are throwing "Suite Parties". They are renting hotel rooms and getting together.


Those Viet-Bikini coffee shops in the OC are still open.



:soapbox:

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Can it be spread through the air?

Im not talking about someone with COVID sneezing and you walk right into their spray mist. I keep hearing it can be transmitted through touching of surfaces and or if you inhale wet droplets.
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[I]Person-to-person spread

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.[/I]
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html[/url]
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I find it hard to believe that it is spreading so fast just by touching surfaces, and I find it very hard to believe that people are walking into sneeze mists. Im sure you are on a bus or elevator, someone sneezes, yes there is potential for exposure ... I guess since I dont take buses or need an elevator im kinda blind to the situational dangers.

My office building has central air for 5 floors, probably 200 people inside on a normal work day. Not sure how many are here now, maybe 50.

I assume filters and the delay in any infected air making its way to me is a complete deterent.

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aww shit .. Maryland stay at home order 3 mins ago

boss just ordered me to leave now

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[quote=SunnySide;1248406]aww shit .. Maryland stay at home order 3 mins ago

boss just ordered me to leave now[/quote]

With pay I hope?

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[quote=jamf;1248404]Lots of young people are throwing "Suite Parties". They are renting hotel rooms and getting together.


Those [B]Viet-Bikini coffee shops in the OC[/B] are still open.



:soapbox:[/quote]

Deemed essential business I thought?

Sidenote of just had bad shit is getting:

Amsterdam's 'Red Light' District Shuts, Long Lines for Marijuana

[url]https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-03-15/amsterdams-red-light-district-hit-by-coronavirus-closings[/url]

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[quote=jamf;1248404]Lots of young people are throwing "Suite Parties". They are renting hotel rooms and getting together.


Those Viet-Bikini coffee shops in the OC are still open.



:soapbox:[/quote]

Not good, I worked at a place in OC that had quite a few Vietnamese guys. Most came from pretty large households, whether lots of roommates or having 3 generations under one roof. I would think people who habitually have less personal space than most need to be extra careful.

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Going to Target tomorrow. If you don't hear from me again its been real! HTTR!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248422]Going to Target tomorrow. If you don't hear from me again its been real! HTTR![/quote]

Just go real early or real late. Went to the grocery store Sunday morning and it was pretty empty. Drove by it around 10 and again around 1 and both times it looked packed.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1248434]Just go real early or real late. Went to the grocery store Sunday morning and it was pretty empty. Drove by it around 10 and again around 1 and both times it looked packed.[/quote]

Yeah I'm gonna go at like 830 a.m. Gotta go to bank too and they don't open until 9 a.m.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248422]Going to Target tomorrow. If you don't hear from me again its been real! HTTR![/quote]


I'll hook you up with a zpack from TJ if you come down with anything!
I only take paper towels as payment.

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[quote=jamf;1248438]I'll hook you up with a zpack from TJ if you come down with anything!
I only take paper towels as payment.[/quote]

The ole barter system. I like it. I actually have plenty of paper towels. We can make something happen.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1248418]Not good, I worked at a place in OC that had quite a few Vietnamese guys. Most came from pretty large households, whether lots of roommates or having 3 generations under one roof. I would think people who habitually have less personal space than most need to be extra careful.[/quote]
Good point!
Expensive area so you do see a lot of people under one roof.

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Went to the Post Office today to drop off my large flat rate box of TP I am sending to my girlfriend who lives near DC. They had clear plastic hanging down from the ceiling to about a foot short of the counter. The lady called it a sneeze protector. I told her what was in the box she said that isn't unusual and a guy a little while ago spent $42 to send TP to relatives in California. I ship for business quite a bit, I think that was the first time the cost of shipping was more than the contents. On the other hand 4 quadruple rolls and 2 double rolls might be worth more than $21 on the black market.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1248434]Just go real early or real late. Went to the grocery store Sunday morning and it was pretty empty. Drove by it around 10 and again around 1 and both times it looked packed.[/quote]

They were all pretty decent until this stay at home thing came out , now people are panicking all over again! Food Lion and Giant in Charles County both had TP and most of the all the other stuff.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1248454]They were all pretty decent until this stay at home thing came out , now people are panicking all over again! Food Lion and Giant in Charles County both had TP and most of the all the other stuff.[/QUOTE]The only thing that had been impossible for me to find was clorox wipes. But last night I went to the local Food Lion, and the shelves were more barren than the Gobi Dessert. The roads were empty to. Soooo eerie.

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Anyone in the Tidewater area I can get toilet paper in a box of 96 rolls. I think its $70 for the box of Hotel grade.

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So one benefit of all this is I can get beer delivered, that’s a change that needs to stay in place once this is over


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Tomorrow is the start of a new month and new quarter. Companies are going to start rolling new policies including reduced pay and layoffs. It's going to be a difficult day.

Hope everything works out for everyone!

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Hope everyone is still not infected. The numbers are staggering. I’d usually include some links for where the info/numbers are coming from but am on my phone

4,658 deaths reported in the US currently. We had over 1k in the last 24 hours. I imagine we will have 2k per day tomorrow, then 3k the next day, 4K per after that?

The surge is here. It’s scary as crap.

Forecasting that approximately 250k Americans will die as a best case scenario.

We are about to lose 1% of our population.

Will it linger? Will it live in the Southern Hemisphere then come back seasonally?

10% of people “cured” are getting it again.

I feel like the grim reaper is right outside my door and it’s just a matter of time for it to come into my home.

I’m scared. I’m afraid I’m going to lose my parents who are over 70. Will I lose my older brother who has horrible smoking related health? Will I die? My daughter? My nieces or nephews?

The numbers say yes.

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Staying home I am now aware of just how many people let their dog go pee on my yard. Holy shit. I have a end unit townhouse with a nice yard, garden etc ... if that dog goes in my yard again I’m letting my dog out.

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[quote=MTK;1248511]So one benefit of all this is I can get beer delivered, that’s a change that needs to stay in place once this is over


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LOL, .........growing up in NJ that was one of the best part time jobs I had . I worked in a Liquor store and deliver booze. Tips were pretty good.

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Staying in the non political side here ...............

Good Job Mr Kraft.

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/02/patriots-retrieve-more-than-a-million-n95-masks-from-china/[/url]

In these trying times, the New England Patriots are living up to their nickname.

As first reported by Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal, the Patriots sent one of their planes to Chine to retrieve 1.2 million N95 masks from China for use by American health-care workers.

Per the report, the operations required patience and precision. Once the Patriots obtained permission to land in China, the plane was permitted to be on the ground there for at most three hours. With three minutes to spare, the masks were loaded into the Boeing 767 painted in teams colors and adorned with the message “6X Champions.”

The plane initially went to Alaska where it awaited final approval to retrieve the masks from China. The plane is due to land in Boston on Thursday afternoon.

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Now that the data is reliable and testing has become widespread, the asymptomatic transmission feature has become the focal point and what makes this so dangerous.

In the county I live, the cluster area where half the cases have spread is a retirement-like center. They have tested every resident, approximately 33 tested negative, 35 are positive with mild to severe symptoms and 54 positive but asymptomatic. These are the most vulnerable people to the disease, the elderly. It’s killed probably 10-15 of the residents.

I guess my biggest question is of the 54 asymptomatic, how many will remain that way and how many will eventually show will get sick, meaning that the test caught them at the presymptomatic phase? The numbers of that split, how does it compare to other age groups? That people who stay asymptomatic throughout the run of the disease, how long does it stay in them versus how long are they transmissible carriers? And probably the most important, what are the quality of a person who’s body who stays asymptomatic, never to develop the sickness...why are they immune, is it just there body’s immune system is stronger, what makes it stronger?

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What I want to know is why haven't all the measures taken against the virus slowed it down?

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1248787]What I want to know is why haven't all the measures taken against the virus slowed it down?[/quote]

I think it has but eventually it will be everywhere like the flu ,somehow ,someway we are all going to have to live with this . Like the early Polio virus .