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[quote=Chico23231;1280277]Like kids in cages and the president not giving a flying fuck about Khashoggi being killed?

Won’t here nothing about this from the libs now...[/quote]

There's literally no point in talking to you. What does it solve? 10+ years here, has either of us made the other see things from a new perspective or added nuance to a rush-to-judgement opinion? No. My time is valuable.

Go hit a j and relax Chico, you need it to balance out the Fox News.

BTW I don't like either of those decisions, but me complaining on a football forum about POTUS decisions does exactly fuck-all to stop it. He's following Trump's lead, we can inform all we want but in the end he's going to make the decisions. I still trust him to not fuck up more than Trump though, the bar was set low on that one. Trump takes pride in being the heel.

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[quote=mooby;1280284]There's literally no point in talking to you. What does it solve? 10+ years here, has either of us made the other see things from a new perspective or added nuance to a rush-to-judgement opinion? No. My time is valuable.

Go hit a j and relax Chico, you need it to balance out the Fox News.

BTW I don't like either of those decisions, but me complaining on a football forum about POTUS decisions does exactly fuck-all to stop it. He's following Trump's lead, we can inform all we want but in the end he's going to make the decisions. I still trust him to not fuck up more than Trump though, the bar was set low on that one. Trump takes pride in being the heel.[/quote]

I get that feeling of not wanting to talk when the same policies which caused faux outrage weren’t really bad at all now. Largely pushed by a dishonest media and social media presence...as we are seeing with the voting laws passed in Georgia.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1280284]There's literally no point in talking to you. What does it solve? 10+ years here, has either of us made the other see things from a new perspective or added nuance to a rush-to-judgement opinion? No. My time is valuable.



Go hit a j and relax Chico, you need it to balance out the Fox News.



BTW I don't like either of those decisions, but me complaining on a football forum about POTUS decisions does exactly fuck-all to stop it. He's following Trump's lead, we can inform all we want but in the end he's going to make the decisions. I still trust him to not fuck up more than Trump though, the bar was set low on that one. Trump takes pride in being the heel.[/QUOTE]This is pretty much true across the board. Like you said it has probably been ten years worth of discussion and we all still hold basically the same views. Some posters are more civil and coherent, others less so, but in the end I can not think of an instance where someone on here suddenly or gradually adopted the other point of view. At best maybe luke warm acknowledgement of the most superficial parts (usually followed by a defense of how its still better than the alternative)

I still believe if this was any 5 of us having drinks and watching the Skins whoop dallas we would not give two shits about the political crap and would be hi fiving and enjoying the hell out of the camaraderie.

Eff politics.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1280298]This is pretty much true across the board. Like you said it has probably been ten years worth of discussion and we all still hold basically the same views. Some posters are more civil and coherent, others less so, but in the end I can not think of an instance where someone on here suddenly or gradually adopted the other point of view. At best maybe luke warm acknowledgement of the most superficial parts (usually followed by a defense of how its still better than the alternative)

[B]I still believe if this was any 5 of us having drinks and watching the Skins whoop dallas we would not give two shits about the political crap and would be hi fiving and enjoying the hell out of the camaraderie.
[/B]
Eff politics.

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:food-smil

Definitely.

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[quote=Chico23231;1280295]I get that feeling of not wanting to talk when the same policies which caused faux outrage weren’t really bad at all now. [B]Largely pushed by a dishonest media and social media presence.[/B]..as we are seeing with the voting laws passed in Georgia.[/quote]

Are you saying the dishonest media had a hand in the new voting laws being passed in Georgia?

It was the dishonest media that made Republicans in power realize the only way they can win an election is by making voting very difficult for liberal minorities?

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[quote=mooby;1280301]Are you saying the dishonest media had a hand in the new voting laws being passed in Georgia?

It was the dishonest media that made Republicans in power realize the only way they can win an election is by making voting very difficult for liberal minorities?[/quote]

Lol very difficult...keep on mooby, next tell me how the filibuster now is a relic of Jim Crow.

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Suppressing the vote has always been a trademark Republican move. No big surprise there.

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[quote=MTK;1280305]Racism has always been a trademark Republican move. No big surprise there.[/quote]

Fixed that for you.

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[URL="https://abcnews.go.com/US/dominion-files-16-billion-lawsuit-fox-news-false/story?id=76699634"]Dominion files $1.6 billion lawsuit against Fox News over false election fraud claims[/URL]

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[QUOTE=jamf;1280312]Fixed that for you.[/QUOTE]



Exactly. At the end of the day the black vote shouldn’t really matter. If those assholes had it their way only rich white males would vote.

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Over 18,000 unaccompanied migrant children now in us custody at the border, numbers out today.

A disgraceful crisis Biden caused himself by his bullshit rhetoric to “surge towards the border” if he is elected. Raising his hand to say free healthcare to illegal unprocessed immigrants.

Completely unacceptable

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[quote=Chico23231;1280352]Over 18,000 unaccompanied migrant children now in us custody at the border, numbers out today.

A disgraceful crisis Biden caused himself by his bullshit rhetoric to “surge towards the border” if he is elected. Raising his hand to say free healthcare to illegal unprocessed immigrants.

Completely unacceptable[/quote]

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lol all of a sudden the right is concerned about rhetoric lol

Get the F outta here

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Pre-bedtime hot route...

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[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.html[/url]

Good breakdown of the new voter laws in GA.

[quote=NY Times]
For the 2020 election, there were 94 drop boxes across the four counties that make up the core of metropolitan Atlanta: Fulton, Cobb, DeKalb and Gwinnett. The new law limits the same four counties to a total of, at most, 23 drop boxes, based on the latest voter registration data. The number could be lower depending on how many early-voting sites the counties provide.

There won’t just be fewer drop boxes. Instead of 24-hour access outdoors, the boxes must be placed indoors at government buildings and early-voting sites and will thus be unavailable for voters to drop off their ballots during evenings and other nonbusiness hours.
[/quote]

But yeah, this is definitely about election security and making things easier. Guess this what you have to resort to when you know you can't win a fair election straight up.

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If anyone really thinks Republicans are in the business of making voting easier and more accessible, you might be a drunk uncle.

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[quote=mooby;1280735][url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/politics/georgia-voting-law-annotated.html[/url]

Good breakdown of the new voter laws in GA.



But yeah, this is definitely about election security and making things easier. Guess this what you have to resort to when you know you can't win a fair election straight up.[/quote]

Lol...their opening bullet point statement is golden. Passive language...maybe, possibly, might...and an all timer- drop box exist “barely”. Folks drop boxes exist period...it’s pure fucking Democrat propaganda. They are giving opinions of law and not the law itself. I guess I shouldn’t expect corrections since this is purely hypothetical and opinion based. Most legal experts agree these are mild changes at best and will not impact turnout

Also the water thing is such bullshit. It’s just lies upon lies...the last election “line warming” or handing out of snacks/water were made by the political group “black votes matter” where they wore political message shirts and handed out stuff to folks in voting lines. This is voter intimidation and a relic of Jim Crow which was adopted by this group.

You can bring water and there will be water stations setup if necessary.

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This is getting interesting

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/01/us/politics/matt-gaetz-justice-department.html"]Justice Dept. Inquiry Into Matt Gaetz Said to Be Focused on Cash Paid to Women[/URL]

Never thought this guy seemed very bright but paying hookers with the cash app? OY LOL

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[quote=MTK;1280740]This is getting interesting

[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/01/us/politics/matt-gaetz-justice-department.html"]Justice Dept. Inquiry Into Matt Gaetz Said to Be Focused on Cash Paid to Women[/URL]

Never thought this guy seemed very bright but paying hookers with the cash app? OY LOL[/quote]

The guy has always looks like the joker to me....he seriously needs to get the fuck outta here.

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[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/us-capitol-lockdown-police-attack.html[/url]

Another dead cop and more blood on Trumps hands.




No matter who this wingnut was (though I am sure he is of the same ilk as those from the insurrection), those officers wouldn’t have been where they were if not for the aforementioned insurrection that the loudmouth cunt started. What an absolute shit stain he is.

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[quote=punch it in;1280768][url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/us-capitol-lockdown-police-attack.html[/url]

Another dead cop and more blood on Trumps hands.




[B]No matter who this wingnut [/B]was (though I am sure he is of the same ilk as those from the insurrection), those officers wouldn’t have been where they were if not for the aforementioned insurrection that the loudmouth cunt started. What an absolute shit stain he is.[/quote]

In other words regardless of the facts, the narrative from punch is blame trump, the right, etc.

Punch you would make a great journalist!

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Not hard to put 2 and 2 together to figure out the basis for yet another attack at the Capitol

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wow MLB pulling the all star game out of Georgia due to the new voting laws.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1280769]In other words regardless of the facts, the narrative from punch is blame trump, the right, etc.



Punch you would make a great journalist![/QUOTE]


Fact - Trump incited an insurrection.
Fact - extra security was put in place because of the insurrection.
Fact - a cop who was part of the security detail was killed today, and he was there because of the insurrection.
Where exactly are the lines between these dots going astray for you Chico?

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Oh boy...

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[quote=punch it in;1280776]Fact - Trump incited an insurrection.
Fact - extra security was put in place because of the insurrection.
Fact - a cop who was part of the security detail was killed today, and he was there because of the insurrection.
Where exactly are the lines between these dots going astray for you Chico?[/quote]

Ohhhh boy....

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1280778]Ohhhh boy....[/QUOTE]



So Trump did not incite an insurrection? Because if thats your stance Ill just leave you to your QANON boards and call it a night.

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[quote=MTK;1280774]Not hard to put 2 and 2 together to figure out the basis for yet another attack at the Capitol[/quote]

Oh boyyy...

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Media is biased. We all are out to get Donald fucking Trump, and you are a beacon of honesty and fairness in search of truth. It’s hysterical.
I simply cannot figure out why all you Trumpers (because lets be honest you will call out other republicans and the like) are so unwilling to call him out? Five years ago none of you gave two shits about the whacko but now it is such a level of undying devotion that it is as if you swore an oath to do or say whatever you need to in order to keep him clean and blameless. The problem is that there is nothing left for you to do or say anymore. He is so over exposed. Which is why we get responses like “oh boyyy”. That is where you are at now.

Is it just that you are all too stubborn to admit you were wrong, or do you actually look up to the man?

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[quote=punch it in;1280781]Media is biased. We all are out to get Donald fucking Trump, and you are a beacon of honesty and fairness in search of truth. It’s hysterical.
I simply cannot figure out why all you Trumpers (because lets be honest you will call out other republicans and the like) are so unwilling to call him out? Five years ago none of you gave two shits about the whacko but now it is such a level of undying devotion that it is as if you swore an oath to do or say whatever you need to in order to keep him clean and blameless. The problem is that there is nothing left for you to do or say anymore. He is so over exposed. Which is why we get responses like “oh boyyy”. That is where you are at now.

[B]Is it just that you are all too stubborn to admit you were wrong, or do you actually look up to the man?[/B][/quote]

Who is this directed at?

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[quote=punch it in;1280768][url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/02/us/us-capitol-lockdown-police-attack.html[/url]

Another dead cop and more blood on Trumps hands.




No matter who this wingnut was (though I am sure he is of the same ilk as those from the insurrection), those officers wouldn’t have been where they were if not for the aforementioned insurrection that the loudmouth cunt started. What an absolute shit stain he is.[/quote]

I mean Punch normally I'd agree with you but we're about an hour into this thing, I'm not comfortable finding who to blame until we know more about what he did.

What we do know is that he committed suicide by cop and he also took a cop with him. The barrier that he rammed has been a manned post since long before Trump left office so I doubt it was an extra detail due to the insurrection.

If you want to see what the presumed attacker looks like [URL="https://twitter.com/pratikjadav_09/status/1378058587205902336"]here's a clip someone posted to Twitter[/URL] from some tv channel.

Way too early to call this thing imo. RIP to the officer who died.

Edit: Here's a picture from the scene.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1280782]Who is this directed at?[/QUOTE]



Didn’t quote chico. My bad. When he oh boyyy’d me n matty.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1280784]I mean Punch normally I'd agree with you but we're about an hour into this thing, I'm not comfortable finding who to blame until we know more about what he did.



What we do know is that he committed suicide by cop and he also took a cop with him. The barrier that he rammed has been a manned post since long before Trump left office so I doubt it was an extra detail due to the insurrection.



If you want to see what the presumed attacker looks like [URL="https://twitter.com/pratikjadav_09/status/1378058587205902336"]here's a clip someone posted to Twitter[/URL] from some tv channel.



Way too early to call this thing imo. RIP to the officer who died.



Edit: Here's a picture from the scene.



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I think everyone is misunderstanding me. Whoever the idiot was that did this doesn’t matter. The cop was only there because of Trumps insurrection. So.....

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Watching goal post moving, seeing the false narratives rise and crumble away is easy living

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[quote=punch it in;1280786]I think everyone is misunderstanding me. Whoever the idiot was that did this doesn’t matter. [B]The cop was only there because of Trumps insurrection.[/B] So.....[/quote]

I highly doubt that, those parking lot barriers have been there for years and they are always manned.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1280787]Watching goal post moving, seeing the false narratives rise and crumble away is easy living[/QUOTE]



Really? You obviously did not read my first post, and if you did you misunderstood it. I was and am saying that Trump incited an insurrection which led to increased security which led to another death.
You are like a young Trump jedi practiced at the art of deflection.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1280788]I highly doubt that, those parking lot barriers have been there for years and they are always manned.[/QUOTE]



Certainly an increased security since the insurrection. That being said maybe you are right maybe those cops are always at that spot. I dont know. Whether they are or are not this is on Trump like I have maintained all day - contrary to Chicos claim that I am moving the goalpost or blaming his messiah for everything bad.
Like Matty said easy as 2 plus 2 to connect the dots here anyway. There is an absolute clear line that can be drawn from Trumps cunt mouth to the dead police officer.
This doesn’t happen today if the insurrection didn’t happen. If you believe otherwise I got some real estate in the desert to sell ya.

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[quote=punch it in;1280791]Certainly an increased security since the insurrection. That being said maybe you are right maybe those cops are always at that spot. I dont know. Whether they are or are not this is on Trump like I have maintained all day - contrary to Chicos claim that I am moving the goalpost or blaming his messiah for everything bad.
Like Matty said easy as 2 plus 2 to connect the dots here anyway. There is an absolute clear line that can be drawn from Trumps cunt mouth to the dead police officer.
This doesn’t happen today if the insurrection didn’t happen. If you believe otherwise I got some real estate in the desert to sell ya.[/quote]

I'm just not drawing conclusions when we don't have the whole story.

All we got is a dead cop, a dead suspect, and an injured cop. A car rammed into a security gate designed to keep cars out. Maybe you can infer the guy on the stretcher is the suspect? Beyond that we don't know anything yet. Maybe he was just some anti-LEO guy who had a death wish and wanted to take one or more with him. The only thing I do know is it's a shitty situation.

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Looks like a black Muslim did it...

This story will get dropped faster than the Boulder shooting, It’s not politically useful to the left anymore.

He didn’t even have a gun..so even the gun violence narrative can’t be used.

I noticed no one spoke of the Philly, Virginia Beach or California mass shooting here. Didn’t see anything about the teen girls car jacking of the Muslim immigrant either in DC.