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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1307335]Commanders is probably the name well most likely the name actually… the W is legit since we know it was on that helmet..

Really it all adds up

DCFC could
Be our nickname like “skins” was

I believe this is pretty legit[/QUOTE]I think "Cums" is a better shorthand

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1307315]Actually it's not inept it is covering their own ass. If they tried to have a name release with fans present then there would be 2 large segments; those wanting Redskins and vocally chanting Hail to the Redskins, and a group heckling and howling for Redwolves. Then there would be a small minority whose applause would be drowned out by the other 2 groups shouts.

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You have to start w/ your customers, your base- and try and make amends w/ them, instead of running and acting scared. Take it on the chin if needed. As hard core as I am about not changing the name I would 100% be respectful if I were to attend.

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Fixed it[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220107/9f82ab19f63707971f1dcb84fa09fef3.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1307335]Commanders is probably the name well most likely the name actually… the W is legit since we know it was on that helmet..

Really it all adds up

DCFC could
Be our nickname like “skins” was

I believe this is pretty legit[/QUOTE]Dcfc is absolutely horrid

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[quote=WillH;1307339]Fixed it[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220107/9f82ab19f63707971f1dcb84fa09fef3.jpg[/IMG]

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Can you replace the people’s team with Fuck them hoes

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That graphic is horrendous. Way too busy. I can't wait for this to be over. They have dragged this out to the point where it is exhausting.

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[quote=Chico23231;1307321]The people’s team? Is this a play on America’s team?

JFC…everytime I think it can’t get worse…[/quote]

This is so stupid that Snyder probably loves it.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1307312]I'm not gonna make real decisions on the logo/uniforms until I see full uniforms.



The name is blah if Commanders is actually the name. The definition of average. Generic and boring. But that's what's acceptable now. Don't want to offend even 1 person.[/QUOTE]I have been very reluctant to get into this part of the debate. And I want to preface this by saying I have several friends who were in the military, a couple went to Afghanistan, and actually a couple of ex American soldiers, one of whom went to Irak. All great men, great souls, and I have nothing but respect for their courage, and compassion for the deep psychological scars some of them have because of what they went through. My grandfather was a career officer, fought in WW2 and stayed in the military all his life, one of the nicest and full of love human being I've known.

This being said, I have to admit I am a bit perplexed at one thing : everybody (not only here, on Twitter and FB too) is trying to anticipate how any name could become offensive in some way at some point in time, sometimes quite over reaching. I've read Wolves could be seen as a celebration of sex offenders... Don't know if said in good faith or not. We are now thinking the color Red in a name is not 100% safe... And the NFL has a strict policy when it comes to celebrating guns/weapons, Josh Norman was fined a decent amount for his bow and arrow celebration IIRC... But almost nobody seems to think that celebrating the military, hence the war, hence the killing of millions human beings, could one day be seen as somewhat offensive...

I don't want to get into a debate about recent wars and all, but if you're ready to think that somehow Redhawks would be seen as offensive one day, don't you think a name celebrating war wouldn't be that cool at some point in history ?

I understand and respect that honoring the military in the US is a big thing, and, right now, quite consensual... But things evolve, maybe it won't always be the case...

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Jason Wright said from day 1 “we want a name that represents the DC area”

Once he said that the name Redwolves was never in play. They will say “we tried” but we all know better.

Commanders fits the area and no other team has that name in any of the major pro sports.

The nba has the Timberwolves and Warriors.

Baseball has the Braves

Can’t copy those teams.

Be original

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1307345]I have been very reluctant to get into this part of the debate. And I want to preface this by saying I have several friends who were in the military, a couple went to Afghanistan, and actually a couple of ex American soldiers, one of whom went to Irak. All great men, great souls, and I have nothing but respect for their courage, and compassion for the deep psychological scars some of them have because of what they went through. My grandfather was a career officer, fought in WW2 and stayed in the military all his life, one of the nicest and full of love human being I've known.

This being said, I have to admit I am a bit perplexed at one thing : everybody (not only here, on Twitter and FB too) is trying to anticipate how any name could become offensive in some way at some point in time, sometimes quite over reaching. I've read Wolves could be seen as a celebration of sex offenders... Don't know if said in good faith or not. We are now thinking the color Red in a name is not 100% safe... And the NFL has a strict policy when it comes to celebrating guns/weapons, Josh Norman was fined a decent amount for his bow and arrow celebration IIRC... But almost nobody seems to think that celebrating the military, hence the war, hence the killing of millions human beings, could one day be seen as somewhat offensive...

I don't want to get into a debate about recent wars and all, but if you're ready to think that somehow Redhawks would be seen as offensive one day, don't you think a name celebrating war wouldn't be that cool at some point in history ?

I understand and respect that honoring the military in the US is a big thing, and, right now, quite consensual... But things evolve, maybe it won't always be the case...

Envoyé de mon SHV48 en utilisant Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Imagine if the name were Commanders during the Vietnam War. Protests at the stadium.


Does anyone remember the player in the late 80s I believe that said the gridiron was like preparing for war and he was roundly criticized for the comparison.

I hope this is just something that let's us all say, at least it (whatever the name is) is better than those options.



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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1307346]Jason Wright said from day 1 “we want a name that represents the DC area”

Once he said that the name Redwolves was never in play. They will say “we tried” but we all know better.

Commanders fits the area and no other team has that name in any of the major pro sports.

The nba has the Timberwolves and Warriors.

Baseball has the Braves

Can’t copy those teams.

Be original[/QUOTE]

How does Commanders fit the majority of fans of the team. Yes there are military Commanders in the dmv, but that small sliver of folks is hardly representative of the area as a whole.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1307345]I have been very reluctant to get into this part of the debate. And I want to preface this by saying I have several friends who were in the military, a couple went to Afghanistan, and actually a couple of ex American soldiers, one of whom went to Irak. All great men, great souls, and I have nothing but respect for their courage, and compassion for the deep psychological scars some of them have because of what they went through. My grandfather was a career officer, fought in WW2 and stayed in the military all his life, one of the nicest and full of love human being I've known.

This being said, I have to admit I am a bit perplexed at one thing : everybody (not only here, on Twitter and FB too) is trying to anticipate how any name could become offensive in some way at some point in time, sometimes quite over reaching. I've read Wolves could be seen as a celebration of sex offenders... Don't know if said in good faith or not. We are now thinking the color Red in a name is not 100% safe... And the NFL has a strict policy when it comes to celebrating guns/weapons, Josh Norman was fined a decent amount for his bow and arrow celebration IIRC... But almost nobody seems to think that celebrating the military, hence the war, hence the killing of millions human beings, could one day be seen as somewhat offensive...

I don't want to get into a debate about recent wars and all, but if you're ready to think that somehow Redhawks would be seen as offensive one day, don't you think a name celebrating war wouldn't be that cool at some point in history ?

I understand and respect that honoring the military in the US is a big thing, and, right now, quite consensual... But things evolve, maybe it won't always be the case...

Envoyé de mon SHV48 en utilisant Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I'm offended by it now!

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So any team name that is generals ,commanders, defenders, sentinels, admirals. Tuskegee airmen red tail reference , or any other name that can be associated with any military will make any fan or the team in general a war monger?

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[img]https://i.ibb.co/rGsLv7M/RM-Logo.jpg[/img]

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1307350]So any team name that is generals ,commanders, defenders, sentinels, admirals. Tuskegee airmen red tail reference , or any other name that can be associated with any military will make any fan or the team in general a war monger?[/QUOTE]No, but I can't look past it. Maybe the team name means nothing to you, but I liked the native American identity of the team. I have no interest in cheering on the military. None, whatsoever. I have respect for the men and women in the armed forces, but not the institutions themselves. It's worse than trying to consider cheering on the Marlboro's or the McDonald's.

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Fair enough .. but the native Americans have no interest in any sports team honoring them .. they made that clear .. even the word Indian is offensive ..The protest Braves games .. I’m sure at some point the Yankees will be offensive .. it’s gonna end up being a state controlled world .. the government will tell you what you can or can’t use as a brand ..

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[quote=jamf;1307351][img]https://i.ibb.co/rGsLv7M/RM-Logo.jpg[/img][/quote]

Yes!

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1307350]So any team name that is generals ,commanders, defenders, sentinels, admirals. Tuskegee airmen red tail reference , or any other name that can be associated with any military will make any fan or the team in general a war monger?[/QUOTE]Definitely not. I'm just puzzled that with all the extravagant predictions of how every name could potentially become offensive one day, pretty much everybody seems to be 100% confident that naming a team after war (one of the most horrible things to ever happen to mankind, including to the brave men and women who enrol to fight in it) will never ever be considered offensive.

And just to be clear, my personal feeling is that Commanders is just boring, but I wouldn't really have any issues with a cool military name. Even Warriors was cooler. Somebody jokingly said Privates and I would actually enjoy it more than Commanders. Even Sergents would be funnier to me. Brigade, Squad...

You get the point, I don't have personally a massive issue with a military name. I'm just perplexed at the fact out of all names this would be the one considered the least offensive.

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[QUOTE=WillH;1307349]I'm offended by it now!

Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I saw your posts, agree with your reasoning and understand your feeling. I am personally not offended by it, but I sure don't feel nearly the same connection with a military officer (pretty high up the chain too) than I did with a Native American theme.

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26 days

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It’s all good .. one thing for sure none of us have any input on the final decision..

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[url]https://twitter.com/chopsportsmedia/status/1479626958325563393?s=21[/url]

These would make more sense


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1307359][url]https://twitter.com/chopsportsmedia/status/1479626958325563393?s=21[/url]

These would make more sense

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I like this as a crest or a logo on an alternate uniforms/helmets. But I hope the "W" is the main logo used, including on the standard uniforms/helmets.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1307332]I agree. That's probably a stack of fan submissions or "options", and those two just happen to be on top there. They leaked this shit on purpose to get everyone riled up... No way someone takes that photo unbeknownst and gets away with it.[/QUOTE]Wasn't it just an non-blurred version of a shot from the 7min video ?

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1307361]I like this as a crest or a logo on an alternate uniforms/helmets. But I hope the "W" is the main logo used, including on the standard uniforms/helmets.[/QUOTE]


Agree


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[quote=rocnrik;1307353]Fair enough .. but[B] 9%[/B] of native Americans have no interest in any sports team honoring them .. they made that clear .. even the word Indian is offensive ..The protest Braves games .. I’m sure at some point the Yankees will be offensive .. it’s gonna end up being a state controlled world .. the government will tell you what you can or can’t use as a brand ..[/quote]


I fixed that for you.

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Gotcha … then who forced the name change ? All I ever heard was the native Americans were in protest ..

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Cobra Commander might be mad.

[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtonNFL/comments/ryz76s/dan_snyder_spotted_in_public_in_commanders_gear/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf[/url]

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[quote=WillH;1307339]Fixed it[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220107/9f82ab19f63707971f1dcb84fa09fef3.jpg[/IMG]

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Our slogan can be “We are here to please”

I am sure someone wittier than I can come up with a fan chant or something during the national anthem when they sing “rocket’s red glare”

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[quote=jamf;1307351][img]https://i.ibb.co/rGsLv7M/RM-Logo.jpg[/img][/quote]

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[quote=rocnrik;1307365]Gotcha … then who forced the name change ? All I ever heard was the native Americans were in protest ..[/quote]

Who forced it? Mostly white people, woke white people and their media allies. After all they couldn't possibly heed what the vast majority of Native People were telling them what they thought of the name, because that particular segment just didn't understand what was good for them. The American version of the Cultural Revolution.

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[quote=nonniey;1307379]Who forced it? Mostly white people, woke white people and their media allies. After all they couldn't possibly head what the vast majority of Native People were telling them what they thought of the name, because that particular segment just didn't understand what was good for them. The American version of the Cultural Revolution.[/quote]

Native American investors with assets of over $600 billion pressured Nike, Fed Ex, and Amazon to stop using the name. That’s why it changed. It had nothing to do with wokeness. It has everything to do with money.

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It’s all a damn shame however it happened..

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[quote=rocnrik;1307386]It’s all a damn shame however it happened..[/quote]

Yep. No matter what name is chosen, it will be a significant downgrade.

And we lost the best logo in all of sports.

It is a damn shame. #yayfor"progress"

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1307387]Yep. No matter what name is chosen, it will be a significant downgrade.

And we lost the best logo in all of sports.

It is a damn shame. #yayfor"progress"[/QUOTE]


The redskin logo was the best in the league I agree. Not just because that’s my team but overall it was just Fire. But bitching about it won’t do any good. The W is nice we have all agreed there. It’ll grow on everyone soon enough


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Let's face it. We are becoming a soft ass society, where people are offended by everything, and scared to offend anyone.

Aside from the trademark issue, it seems like the main focus is to pick something that won't be offensive to someone...good luck with that. Someone, at some point, will crawl out of their hole and start a crusade against whatever the name or logo is. That is who we are now. A nation full of Pu$$!#$.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1307389]Let's face it. We are becoming a soft ass society, where people are offended by everything, and scared to offend anyone.

Aside from the trademark issue, it seems like the main focus is to pick something that won't be offensive to someone...good luck with that. Someone, at some point, will crawl out of their hole and start a crusade against whatever the name or logo is. That is who we are now. A nation full of Pu$$!#$.[/QUOTE]


Unfortunately this is true. People love to complain


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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1307389]Let's face it. We are becoming a soft ass society, where people are offended by everything, and scared to offend anyone.

Aside from the trademark issue, it seems like the main focus is to pick something that won't be offensive to someone...good luck with that. Someone, at some point, will crawl out of their hole and start a crusade against whatever the name or logo is. That is who we are now. A nation full of Pu$$!#$.[/quote]

YES!! Well said!!

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1307389]Let's face it. We are becoming a soft ass society, where people are offended by everything, and scared to offend anyone.

Aside from the trademark issue, it seems like the main focus is to pick something that won't be offensive to someone...good luck with that. Someone, at some point, will crawl out of their hole and start a crusade against whatever the name or logo is. That is who we are now. A nation full of Pu$$!#$.[/quote]

🎯 nailed it.

Yet they bend of backwards for an historic evil shithole regime such as China…forget they created a plague that’s killed millions, they a committing genocide, participating in slavery and destroying democracies. Yet those woke hypocrite fucks are silent when it comes to that

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[quote=Chico23231;1307392]🎯 nailed it.

Yet they bend of backwards for an historic evil shithole regime such as China…forget they created a plague that’s killed millions, they a committing genocide, participating in slavery and destroying democracies. Yet those woke hypocrite fucks are silent when it comes to that[/quote]

Preach it Brother!!