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[quote=Chico23231;1310312]This is great…he is right. Cut me a check and throw in therapy for their never ending bullshit.

[B]It’s never about football with this gd team. That’s the problem.[/B][/quote]

You can thank Snyder for that. Perhaps someday the other owners will force him to sell to save themselves.

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Nobody circles the wagons quite like NFL owners.

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Haven't seen this posted here... Your team captain tweeting he'd enjoy dining with "military genius" Hitler...

My gawd it never stops...

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33254443/washington-commanders-dt-jonathan-allen-apologizes-saying-dine-hitler[/url]

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1310371]Haven't seen this posted here... Your team captain tweeting he'd enjoy dining with "military genius" Hitler...

My gawd it never stops...

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33254443/washington-commanders-dt-jonathan-allen-apologizes-saying-dine-hitler[/url]

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In fairness to JA, He did give out a legit reason... We can't be so sensitive about everything. Hitler was knows as a genius, so if you love history and military history , he's be a pretty good mind picker... Also Allen has apologized...

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310375]In fairness to JA, He did give out a legit reason... We can't be so sensitive about everything. Hitler was knows as a genius, so if you love history and military history , he's be a pretty good mind picker... Also Allen has apologized...[/quote]

Yeah I'm not saying what he said was absolutely horrible, and he did apologize.
But come on, as a team captain is it too much to ask that [I]you don't tweet out[/I] that out of all humanity, dead or alive, past or present, the 3 persons that you'd like to have diner with are your grand dad, Michael Jackson and Hitler ?
Is it too much to ask the team captain of an organisation which already is in a PR nightmare to think for a split second and go "ok you know what, let me keep that one for a party with my close friends and put Einstein, Julius Caesar or Neil Armstrong instead..." ?

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JA wrote that he like to pick Hitlers brain for his military genius and why he did what he did. Pretty sure the majority of society would love to hear that conversation.

Not all genius are good people. What hitler did which was horrible horrible is also a amazing; he nearly took over the world and wiped out a religion. Your average skin head with his General Lee screaming around the Deep South isn’t pulling off what hitler did.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1310371]Haven't seen this posted here... Your team captain tweeting he'd enjoy dining with "military genius" Hitler...

My gawd it never stops...

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33254443/washington-commanders-dt-jonathan-allen-apologizes-saying-dine-hitler[/url]

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I mean honestly, academics still actively research/debate Hitlers motivations, question his choices, etc.

Our country consumes Netflix and other channels to watch documentaries about serial killers, mass murders, child killers, sexual predators at record rates. We do this to try to answer why do people commit evil acts?

Allen said zero wrong here. Anybody suggesting otherwise need to be tossed off a bridge.

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[quote=Chico23231;1310378]I mean honestly, academics still actively research/debate Hitlers motivations, question his choices, etc.

Our country consumes Netflix and other channels to watch documentaries about serial killers, mass murders, child killers, sexual predators at record rates. We do this to try to answer why do people commit evil acts?

Allen said zero wrong here. Anybody suggesting otherwise need to be tossed off a bridge.[/quote]

From a PR standpoint though is it too much to ask that the team captain, of this franchise out of all, would keep this conversation for a more private setting and leave Hitler out of his tweets ?

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1310379]From a PR standpoint though is it too much to ask that the team captain, of this franchise out of all, would keep this conversation for a more private setting and leave Hitler out of his tweets ?[/quote]

Probably right, of course if Heinicke would have said the samething this would be lead on every bullshit sports show this morning with the typical talking heads pushing there social justice immoral lies.

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[quote=Chico23231;1310380]Probably right, of course if Heinicke would have said the samething this would be lead on every bullshit sports show this morning with the typical talking heads pushing there social justice immoral lies.[/quote]

Again, I'm not saying he said something absolutely atrocious, but this is bad judgement, and I thought he was smarter than that.

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Just 2 things I find offensive in what Allen said.

1. Hitler was a military genius.
2. He would invite Michael Jackson to dinner.

;)

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He said something dumb and immediately apologized. I say who cares.

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[quote=davy;1310383]Just 2 things I find offensive in what Allen said.

1. Hitler was a military genius.
2. He would invite Michael Jackson to dinner.

;)[/quote]

Ha..correct

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[quote=MTK;1310384]He said something dumb and immediately apologized. I say who cares.[/quote]

Of all the things people could get mad about... and a question about a hypothetical which will never happen is where the bar is? Weak.

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[quote=MTK;1310384]He said something dumb and immediately apologized. I say who cares.[/quote]

I don't think he owed anyone a apology.


And it was not dumb to say, no one here would be intrigued to find out why Hitler did what he did straight from the horses mouth.

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[quote=mooby;1310387]Of all the things people could get mad about... and a question about a hypothetical which will never happen is where the bar is? Weak.[/quote]

Exactly.

Its like the game "would you rather".


I swear to god how any comedian can make it in todays society is a miracle.

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[quote=mredskins;1310390]Exactly.

Its like the game "would you rather".


I swear to god how any comedian can make it in todays society is a miracle.[/quote]

FMK

Rosie O'Donnell, Ann Coulter, Roseanne

If, in the off-chance one of you sees this, I do not apologize to any of the 3 for putting you on this list.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1310354]Nobody circles the wagons quite like NFL owners.[/QUOTE]


I see what you did there.


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[quote=davy;1310383]Just 2 things I find offensive in what Allen said.

1. Hitler was a military genius.
2. He would invite Michael Jackson to dinner.

;)[/quote]


This.


And another thought. Who here knew that Jonathon Allen was fluent in German?



Compared to the other PR issues this franchise is dealing with, this is a nothing burger.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1310376]Yeah I'm not saying what he said was absolutely horrible, and he did apologize.
But come on, as a team captain is it too much to ask that [I]you don't tweet out[/I] that out of all humanity, dead or alive, past or present, the 3 persons that you'd like to have diner with are your grand dad, Michael Jackson and Hitler ?
Is it too much to ask the team captain of an organisation which already is in a PR nightmare to think for a split second and go "ok you know what, let me keep that one for a party with my close friends and put Einstein, Julius Caesar or Neil Armstrong instead..." ?[/quote]

Is it too much to ask that people don't lose their minds overreacting?

So he'd like to pick Hitler's brain and have a conversation with him - fine.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1310394]Is it too much to ask that people don't lose their minds overreacting?

So he'd like to pick Hitler's brain and have a conversation with him - fine.[/quote]

I just cant believe that he spun the wheel, and this was the answer that he landed on.
it really is a moment where you are just kind of shocked that someone would say that in a public forum.
its a real head scratcher.

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Someone asked him a question, and he provided his answer. You don't have to like his choices or his reasons, but let's not make this out to be more than what it is.

Personally, I could give a F less who he or anyone else would hypothetically want to have dinner with and why.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1310396]Someone asked him a question, and he provided his answer. You don't have to like his choices or his reasons, but let's not make this out to be more than what it is.

Personally, I could give a F less who he or anyone else would hypothetically want to have dinner with and why.[/quote]

, I would have answered Trump and then while we're eating our McDonalds I can tell him what a fucking asshole he is, but hey that's just me.

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Could you imagine if he said Trump?

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1310407]Could you imagine if he said Trump?[/quote]

The crying would be endless. Tears in Northern Va/Southern Maryland would have caused a massive flood.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1310394]Is it too much to ask that people don't lose their minds overreacting?



So he'd like to pick Hitler's brain and have a conversation with him - fine.[/QUOTE]Personally I don't really care about what he said, it's just fascinating to me that, as a team captain, he didn't know that people would overreact, and that Twitter is not important to the point where he had to give his most honest answer. Like, this is the world we live in, this is Twitter, you're a famous person and a team captain, in my book you should know what's coming if you tweet something like that.
I have zero interest in the moral debate and I see exactly what he wanted to say, my interest is this team and to me it's fascinating that even the apparently smartest people in the building don't know better.

In short, to your question I'd say: yes, it is too much to ask because you know people are going to overact, so as a team captain, know better.

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[quote=Chico23231;1310409]The crying would be endless. Tears in Northern Va/Southern Maryland would have caused a massive flood.[/quote]

I'd like to have dinner with Trump.

It would be an honor to peek inside the mind of the supreme bullshitter of all time.

Nobody knows more about anything than him! But uh, you can't see his transcripts.

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This thread has turned to shit (has nothing to do with the most recent post above this one).

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[quote=Chico23231;1310409]The crying would be endless. Tears in Northern Va/Southern Maryland would have caused a massive flood.[/quote]

...........great retort chico.:doh:

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1310410]Personally I don't really care about what he said, it's just fascinating to me that, as a team captain, he didn't know that people would overreact, and that Twitter is not important to the point where he had to give his most honest answer. Like, this is the world we live in, this is Twitter, you're a famous person and a team captain, in my book you should know what's coming if you tweet something like that.
I have zero interest in the moral debate and I see exactly what he wanted to say, my interest is this team and to me it's fascinating that even the apparently smartest people in the building don't know better.

In short, to your question I'd say: yes, it is too much to ask because you know people are going to overact, so as a team captain, know better.[/quote]

This is what I meant. I don't care one way or the other what the answer was...but it's quite tone deaf to not think of the reaction from the world.
Esp with the dysfunction and controversy with the team at this point in time...it's just one more thing.
Also, I wonder what Snyders reaction is to this, tbh. I know that he's made it a point to say that people were being anti-semetic in the media when they put the devil face on him........so I can't imagine what his reaction is to someone on his team saying this. I'm sure it's nothing that we will hear about and will be talked about behind closed doors...but I would love to be a fly on the wall.

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What would be a good enough offer to Seattle to land Russell Wilson?


This year's 1st
Daron Payne
Next year's 2nd

???

Would that move the needle enough?

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I think they'll need at least two 1's and a player. I can't imagine that they're particularly excited about any of the QB prospects from this draft, and they would probably figure that adding Russ to our team would win us a couple of games and hurt the value of next year's picks, so I doubt they're ok with a 2nd.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1310410]Personally I don't really care about what he said, it's just fascinating to me that, as a team captain, he didn't know that people would overreact, and that Twitter is not important to the point where he had to give his most honest answer. Like, this is the world we live in, this is Twitter, you're a famous person and a team captain, in my book you should know what's coming if you tweet something like that.
I have zero interest in the moral debate and I see exactly what he wanted to say, my interest is this team and to me it's fascinating that even the apparently smartest people in the building don't know better.

In short, to your question I'd say: yes, it is too much to ask because you know people are going to overact, so as a team captain, know better.[/quote]

That's funny. He should "know better". It's entirely possible he didn't care what the reactions would be - or overreactions. Not everyone is walking around on eggshells hoping they don't offend someone by their honesty.

I'm actually surprised he apologized. An apology wasn't warranted.

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I’d imagine Ron knows RW would carry this team far.. especially in a weak NFC QB room..


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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1310421]That's funny. He should "know better". It's entirely possible he didn't care what the reactions would be - or overreactions. Not everyone is walking around on eggshells hoping they don't offend someone by their honesty.

I'm actually surprised he apologized. An apology wasn't warranted.[/quote]

And he would be entitled to not care what the Twitter/media reaction to it is, I just think as a team captain, and with all this team has had to deal with recently, and will have to deal with in the foreseeable future, [I][U]it would've simply been smarter[/U][/I] to anticipate the (highly predictable) overreaction and go a more consensual route.
Now, I deleted my twitter account a couple of weeks ago, and only used it a couple of years in the end, so I won't be the one to tell you how great, smart and important a place it is ...

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[quote=Swarley;1310420][B]I think they'll need at least two 1's and a player.[/B] I can't imagine that they're particularly excited about any of the QB prospects from this draft, and they would probably figure that adding Russ to our team would win us a couple of games and hurt the value of next year's picks, so I doubt they're ok with a 2nd.[/quote]

That's my thinking too. Rams gave up a young 1st pick QB, a 3rd and 2 firsts to get Stafford, who's 9 month older that Wilson. I don't see how we pay less than that for Russell.

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Whatever we do it won’t work out … RGIii,Alex Smith,Haskins, Fitz… all we got to show for it is a guy with a champion heart with very little arm .. I’m at point of drafting our guy and hope it works ..

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1310426]Whatever we do it won’t work out … RGIii,Alex Smith,Haskins, Fitz… all we got to show for it is a guy with a champion heart with very little arm .. I’m at point of drafting our guy and hope it works ..[/QUOTE]


I think a guy like RW would change that.

I don’t want Wentz (rumored to be traded)
I don’t want Winston

I’d rather draft Willis at 11 and roll the dice if that’s the case.

Wilson is of course the #1 option and if we can somehow pull him in, it would be Massive


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[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33283843/nfl-running-back-adrian-peterson-arrested-connection-officials-said-was-domestic-violence-incident[/url]

NFL running back Adrian Peterson arrested in connection with what officials said was a domestic violence incident

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Just read that Tampa may be looking Russell Wilson's way. The list of suitors for Russell is long and distinguished.


Honestly, Russell Wilson seems more and more like a pipe dream for us.

Time to go to Plan B.

Draft Willis or Pickett at 11. And grab a middle tier free agent QB to ease the rookie in mid-year. A Teddy Bridgewater type.


And continue to add pieces where we're weak. MLB. S. WR.