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Tim Walz doesn't like spicy food, just like Chico. Hmmmm. Chico stop eating white guy tacos. I expect you to start drinking hot sauce to separate yourself from Walz.

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[quote=Giantone;1363533]In other News trump looking stupid , again.......................


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-medal-gave-billionaire-044816232.html[/url]

[SIZE="6"]Trump Says Medal He Gave Billionaire Donor ‘Much Better’ Than Military Medal of Honor[/SIZE]



[B] Donald Trump said that a civilian Presidential Medal of Freedom is better than the Medal of Honor because soldiers who are recognized are “in very bad shape … or they’re dead.”[/B][/quote]

Well, of course he is right as only losers and suckers are eligible for the Medal of Honor so obviously the Medal of Freedom is superior as it can be given to the better people.

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How any military person believes Trump supports them after all he has said to disrespect them is still amazing to me. How any blue collar guy, who thinks he is there for them after him after what he said to Elon Musk is amazing as well. The UAW filing anti-labor charges is significant.

They will be studying these nut cases for centuries in school. Kids will learn how his supporters defended him with vigor regardless of what he has done, there was literally no line he could cross to his cult members.

It is the most incredible thing I have ever seen in politics and I hope I never see it again. I'll be so glad when this idiot is gone from politics where he never belonged in the first place.

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVSNlzCXoAAhR2a?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]

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WTF???

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363543]How any military person believes Trump supports them after all he has said to disrespect them is still amazing to me. How any blue collar guy, who thinks he is there for them after him after what he said to Elon Musk is amazing as well. The UAW filing anti-labor charges is significant.

They will be studying these nut cases for centuries in school. Kids will learn how his supporters defended him with vigor regardless of what he has done, there was literally no line he could cross to his cult members.

It is the most incredible thing I have ever seen in politics and I hope I never see it again. I'll be so glad when this idiot is gone from politics where he never belonged in the first place.[/quote]

I don't get it either, never will

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[quote=MTK;1363552]I don't get it either, never will[/quote]

History will be very unkind to President Trump and his supporters who enabled his behavior. In time they will die off and their voices will be silenced. Then all that will be left are the videos and the records, which are stil being written.

They will be laughing at the fools who supported such a man. I am absolutely convinced of this, just sad that I won't live to see it.

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[quote=MTK;1363549][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVSNlzCXoAAhR2a?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG][/quote]

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_Qyk9DSUw"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_Qyk9DSUw[/URL]

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1363562][URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_Qyk9DSUw"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl_Qyk9DSUw[/URL][/quote]

I saw this earlier today on another board. The guy is losing his mind right before our very eyes. Kamala doesn't need to do a lot, just sit back and watch Trump continue to make unforced errors.

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Dementia Donold is burying himself every time he speaks. One of the most unfit candidates of all time.

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So it looks like the polls did tighten as a result of a slight drop in Independent and Never-Trump support. Harris would have been comfortably ahead right now if she had only picked either Shapiro or Kelley as her running mate.

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Why Walz was the right pick.


[url]https://www.boston.com/community/readers-say/2024/08/07/why-readers-support-tim-walz-as-kamala-harris-vp-pick/[/url]

[url]https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/tim-walz-kamala-harris-vp-pick-minnesota-rcna164157[/url]


[url]https://baystatebanner.com/2024/08/14/walz-is-a-welcome-choice-for-vp/[/url]

[url]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-walz-and-not-shapiro-for-vice-president/[/url]

[url]https://democracyseminar.newschool.org/essays/why-tim-walz-is-the-right-pick-for-vice-president/[/url]

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/06/us/politics/harris-walz-vp-pick.html[/url]


[url]https://www.newsweek.com/tim-walz-right-choice-rural-america-all-america-opinion-1937232[/url]

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[quote=nonniey;1363567]So it looks like the polls did tighten as a result of a slight drop in Independent and Never-Trump support. Harris would have been comfortably ahead right now if she had only picked either Shapiro or Kelley as her running mate.[/quote]

I personally think Kelley was her best option especially in a swing state. Reading about Shapiro I see why she didn't choose him. I think for her Walz is a "safe" choice as I think both Kelley and Shapiro would cast a large shadow that I don't think Walz can.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1363567]So it looks like the polls did tighten as a result of a slight drop in Independent and Never-Trump support. Harris would have been comfortably ahead right now if she had only picked either Shapiro or Kelley as her running mate.[/QUOTE]


The VP pick doesn't really give a candidate a boost.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1363534]Total fucking idiot and a national embarrassment, can’t believe this is real life[/QUOTE]


I can't believe people still support (or send money) to the guy. It really is a cult.

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You Can't fix stupid! My Pillow Guy loses argument with a 12 year old.

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/entertainment/watch-mypillow-ceo-loses-fight-142603693.html[/url]

Watch: MyPillow CEO Loses Fight With 12-Year-Old Child at DNC

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1363716]The VP pick doesn't really give a candidate a boost.[/QUOTE]

But it can hurt a candidate and I think both VP candidates did just that for their tickets.

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[quote=nonniey;1363770]But it can hurt a candidate and I think both VP candidates did just that for their tickets.[/quote]

Walz has not hurt Kamala nearly as much as that whack job Vance has hurt Trump. The Pubs are desperate to find something, anything on Walz. So they resort to the claim of stolen valor when he simply misrepesented his military service. Where Vance is doubling down on really stupid and offensive statements.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364061]Walz has not hurt Kamala nearly as much as that whack job Vance has hurt Trump. The Pubs are desperate to find something, anything on Walz. So they resort to the claim of stolen valor when he simply misrepesented his military service. Where Vance is doubling down on really stupid and offensive statements.[/quote]

He hasn't hurt Kamala at all, I wanted Kelly but after reading all the pro on Walz he was the right pick.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364061]Walz has not hurt Kamala nearly as much as that whack job Vance has hurt Trump. The Pubs are desperate to find something, anything on Walz. So they resort to the claim of stolen valor when he simply misrepesented his military service. Where Vance is doubling down on really stupid and offensive statements.[/quote]

And that has what to do with the price of tea in China? My point is Harris would have been much better off choosing a moderate as her VP. That would have played into her attempt to portray herself as more moderate than she is. Kelley would have been her best choice and she'd probably have got a point or two more at the polls with him (and that may be the difference between winning and losing).

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Not an Official endorsement but this will help Kamala.

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/goldman-sachs-sees-biggest-boost-100032797.html[/url]

Goldman Sachs sees biggest boost to US economy from Harris win

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[quote=nonniey;1364070]And that has what to do with the price of tea in China? My point is Harris would have been much better off choosing a moderate as her VP. That would have played into her attempt to portray herself as more moderate than she is. Kelley would have been her best choice and she'd probably have got a point or two more at the polls with him (and that may be the difference between winning and losing).[/quote]

Not sure I understand the price of tea in China comment. We were discussing the VPs and my comment addressed the VPs on the ticket as I defended her pick.

For the record I preferred Kelly to as he was from a swing state. But after learning more about Walz I have no problem with the pick. Above all else he is a good guy and likeable, you just can't say that about Trump and Vance.

I disagree with your comment that both choices hurt their running mate, Vance has been damaging and the Pubs have so little on Walz that they have resorted to critcizing Walz for claiming he went to combat when he did not, meanwhile Trump calls those killed or captured "losers", he claimed the Presidential Medal of Honor given to a rich donor was more important than the Congressional Medal of Freaking Honor. They just don't have much on Walz obviously when compared to all Vance has given the Dems.

So no I don't agree with you when you say she would be comfortably ahead had she selected Kelly and that both VPs have hurt their running mate.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364109]Not sure I understand the price of tea in China comment. We were discussing the VPs and my comment addressed the VPs on the ticket as I defended her pick.

For the record I preferred Kelly to as he was from a swing state. But after learning more about Walz I have no problem with the pick. Above all else he is a good guy and likeable, you just can't say that about Trump and Vance.

I disagree with your comment that both choices hurt their running mate, Vance has been damaging and the Pubs have so little on Walz that they have resorted to critcizing Walz for claiming he went to combat when he did not, meanwhile Trump calls those killed or captured "losers", he claimed the Presidential Medal of Honor given to a rich donor was more important than the Congressional Medal of Freaking Honor. They just don't have much on Walz obviously when compared to all Vance has given the Dems.

So no I don't agree with you when you say she would be comfortably ahead had she selected Kelly and that both VPs have hurt their running mate.[/quote]

I said Walz was a mistake she should have chosen a moderate ie Kelley. Your reply was Vance was worse. That response didn't address what I said (ie What has that to do with the price of tea in China - this is a colloquialism meaning what you said was not relevant to what I said - seems a lot of these old common sayings are starting to die off).

Kelley would have reinforced Harris's messaging attempt to portray her as more moderate than she actually is and almost certainly would have gotten her more votes probably a 1-2% difference - that difference may be the difference in stopping Trump (who must be stopped - wanted to remind you I'm sending my vote her way despite hating her policies - My vote isn't for her it is against Trump).

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both parties chose running mates that ignored the moderate electorate, and solidified their base. I don't understand that strategy because I think there is a huge moderate portion of voters that are looking for "their candidate" in this mess.

I actually do understand the selections, Both sides basically believe that the moderates hate the other candidate so much more than theirs that they can choose whoever they want and they're still going to get that vote. And I think the Democrats are more right in that concept than the Republicans.

I just wish somewhere along the line the moderates of both parties would stand up to the party leaders and say you all are batshit crazy!

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Russia meddling, again

[url]https://apnews.com/article/russian-interference-presidential-election-influencers-trump-999435273dd39edf7468c6aa34fad5dd[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1364117]Russia meddling, again

[url]https://apnews.com/article/russian-interference-presidential-election-influencers-trump-999435273dd39edf7468c6aa34fad5dd[/url][/quote]


[COLOR="Red"] But, but maga says that's not true![/COLOR]

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I am aware that Trump has historically outperformed the polls so I should know better than to count him out. But it just appears to me that the madness has to stop, I can't believe more people want to sign up for 4 more years of Trump than those who are done with it all. I really do feel this way, this craziness we've all be living certainly has a shelf life.

Now Alan Lichtman, the guy who called correctly 9 of the last Presidential races including Trump in 2016, is calling it for Harris.

[url]https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/09/he-has-nailed-nearly-every-presidential-race-heres-his-prediction-for-trump-harris.html[/url]

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364121]I am aware that Trump has historically outperformed the polls so I should know better than to count him out. But it just appears to me that the madness has to stop, I can't believe more people want to sign up for 4 more years of Trump than those who are done with it all. I really do feel this way, this craziness we've all be living certainly has a shelf life.

Now Alan Lichtman, the guy who called correctly 9 of the last Presidential races including Trump in 2016, is calling it for Harris.

[url]https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/09/he-has-nailed-nearly-every-presidential-race-heres-his-prediction-for-trump-harris.html[/url][/quote]

We can only hope. Republicans have to take back their Party.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364121]I am aware that Trump has historically outperformed the polls so I should know better than to count him out. But it just appears to me that the madness has to stop, I can't believe more people want to sign up for 4 more years of Trump than those who are done with it all. I really do feel this way, this craziness we've all be living certainly has a shelf life.

Now Alan Lichtman, the guy who called correctly 9 of the last Presidential races including Trump in 2016, is calling it for Harris.

[url]https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/09/he-has-nailed-nearly-every-presidential-race-heres-his-prediction-for-trump-harris.html[/url][/quote]

Harris is absolutely going to be the next President 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢.

Congress is a toss-up. Controlling congress is more important to the right than Trump winning or losing, imo.

I just hope America can wade it out until 2028. No way Harris or Trump will be president then.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1364138]

Controlling congress is more important to the right than Trump winning or losing, imo.

[/quote]

I could not disagree with this statement more. The entire Republican Party has sold out for one Donald J. Trump. Even those who can't stand the guy kiss his ass for votes. They are heavily invested in Trump.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364168]I could not disagree with this statement more. The entire Republican Party has sold out for one Donald J. Trump. Even those who can't stand the guy kiss his ass for votes. They are heavily invested in Trump.[/quote]

I meant just from my perspective. As a conservative, I'd rather have republicans control the house and senate than Trump winning.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364168]I could not disagree with this statement more. The entire Republican Party has sold out for one Donald J. Trump. Even those who can't stand the guy kiss his ass for votes. They are heavily invested in Trump.[/quote]
Just look at the Confirmation hearings for the Supreme Court or the Senate and Jim Jordon. These Republicans have sold their soul to the Devil sadly. Now they subpoena Walz yet Jordon refuse to honor the one issued for himself.

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[quote=Giantone;1364180]Just look at the Confirmation hearings for the Supreme Court or the Senate and Jim Jordon. These Republicans have sold their soul to the Devil sadly. Now they subpoena Walz yet Jordon refuse to honor the one issued for himself.[/quote]

One of the many things the Republicans have done to piss me off is how they had decided as a group that they, and only them, are allowed to simply blow off Congressional subpeonas. They simply did not show because Trump told them not to. It's disgusting behavior and it should no longer be tollerated.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364192]One of the many things the Republicans have done to piss me off is how they had decided as a group that they, and only them, are allowed to simply blow off Congressional subpeonas. They simply did not show because Trump told them not to. It's disgusting behavior and it should no longer be tollerated.[/quote]

It is unfortunately an erosion of our democratic principles and aligning us with monarchial principles. The American public seems willing to accept it.

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Maga is at it again..............


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/maga-launches-most-unbelievable-conspiracy-180219641.html[/url]


[B]MAGA Launches Most Unbelievable Conspiracy Yet—on Migrants Eating Pets[/B]

The MAGA right, including Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance, are spreading a racist rumor that Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, are capturing, cooking, and eating people’s pet cats and ducks.

Right-wingers seemed to have conflated a report from Canton, Ohio, of a woman who was arrested for allegedly killing and eating a cat, with complaints from residents in Springfield, more than 170 miles away from Canton. The woman is a U.S. citizen, and there is no indication she is a Haitian immigrant...............................

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So, the polls are tightening yet again, many even now predicting Trump wins. This is a reflection of the Trump team highlighting that Harris is too progressive for American tastes. Again, she needed to overcome that perception (which actually is based on reality) and now what I was saying last month is now being discussed openly by pundits left and right - that the Walz choice was a mistake (one of the reporters I heard softened it a bit by calling it a missed opportunity). Making that choice undermined her attempt to portray herself as more moderate and like I said last month may have cost her the election.

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[quote=nonniey;1364405]So, the polls are tightening yet again, many even now predicting Trump wins. This is a reflection of the Trump team highlighting that Harris is too progressive for American tastes. Again, she needed to overcome that perception (which actually is based on reality) and now what I was saying last month is now being discussed openly by pundits left and right - that the Walz choice was a mistake (one of the reporters I heard softened it a bit by calling it a missed opportunity). Making that choice undermined her attempt to portray herself as more moderate and like I said last month may have cost her the election.[/quote]

Yes they are "tightening" but not the way you think or for the reasons you express..............


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/opinion-harris-trump-might-stronger-[/url]
113000914.html

With less than 60 days before the 2024 presidential election — and on the eve of the first debate between Vice President Harris and former President Donald Trump — polls suggest that this presidential election may be the closest in modern history.
As of Labor Day, national polling averages aggregated by both FiveThirtyEight (Harris +3) and RealClearPolitics (Harris +2) show the race to be effectively tied. That’s a marked improvement for Democrats from just a few weeks ago, when Biden was the nominee.

Harris’s polling surge has led some, including The Telegraph, as well as Bloomberg’s Michael Sasso and Mark Niquette, to predict that the vice president and Democrats will win. But while not discounting the fact that Harris does lead nationally, and that Democrats are significantly stronger than they were with Biden atop the ticket, I do not agree with the Telegraph or Sasso and Niquette.

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The country has lost it's collective minds. Planning a fund raiser for thugs who attacked our Capitol alone should have finished any candidate in our nation's history. At one time Republicans voted to impeach Richard Nixon who did far less than Donald J. Trump, today there is literally no line he can cross. American polltics disgusts me today. Trump is threatening to jail journalists and poltical oppenents and he is leading the polls. WTF is going on here????? The rest of the world is laughing at us.

If he wins I'll have no choice but to simply tune out poltics. In all honesty my life went virtually unchanged regardless of who was the President.

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[quote=nonniey;1364405]So, the polls are tightening yet again, many even now predicting Trump wins. This is a reflection of the Trump team highlighting that Harris is too progressive for American tastes. Again, she needed to overcome that perception (which actually is based on reality) and now what I was saying last month is now being discussed openly by pundits left and right - that the Walz choice was a mistake (one of the reporters I heard softened it a bit by calling it a missed opportunity). Making that choice undermined her attempt to portray herself as more moderate and like I said last month may have cost her the election.[/quote]

I know I lean lefter than most but I don't see the labeling of Harris as a progressive. The only time in her career she aligned herself with the left was her 2020 campaign. As a DA and Attorney general she said she would advocate for democracy but always ended up with more moderate and mainstream views. Jailing drug users, during the banking crisis supported banking industry and not home owners the list goes on. These were all things widely supported by mainstream politicians and not the left. After her 2020 campaign she aligned herself with Biden's moderate view and neither has really pushed for democracy for the US citizenship.

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I see that Kamala won the highly coveted war criminal super pac endorsement