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SmootSmack 12-11-2009 08:59 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[url=http://www.fantasyguru.com/StaffBlog/2009/12/11/cosells-coaching-tape-week-thirteen-121009-notes/]Cosell’s Coaching Tape: Week Thirteen 12/10/09 Notes - FantasyGuru.com: Staff Blog[/url]

Paintrain 12-11-2009 09:53 PM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=SmootSmack;638276][url=http://www.fantasyguru.com/StaffBlog/2009/12/11/cosells-coaching-tape-week-thirteen-121009-notes/]Cosell’s Coaching Tape: Week Thirteen 12/10/09 Notes - FantasyGuru.com: Staff Blog[/url][/quote]

Hater! No, that was a good read, very interesting analysis of the offense.

Monkeydad 12-14-2009 09:53 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[SIZE=2]UPDATED stats/assessment...Campbell pulling away from other two bust QBs.


Cutler:
WK 14 - 23/36 (63.9%), 209 yds, 2 TD, 2 INT, 74.9 rating, -1 rush yds
TOTAL: 284/457 (62.1%), 3,023 yds, 19 TD, [/SIZE][SIZE=2]22 INT, 75.2 rating, 135 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 14 - [/SIZE][SIZE=2]DNP, messed up knee attempting to run in Week 13, not even allowed to travel with team[/SIZE][SIZE=2]
TOTAL: 158/297 (53.2%), 2,049 yds, 11 TD, 17 INT, 63.7 rating, 97 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 14 - 16/28 (57.1%), 222 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 106.5 rating, 20 rush yds
TOTAL: 260/398 (65.3%), 2,946 yds, 17 TD, 12 INT, 89.0 rating, 179 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campbell (65.3%), Cutler (62.1%), Sanchez (53.2%)
Yds = Cutler (3,023) Campbell (2,946) Sanchez (2,049)
TDs = Cutler (19), Campbell (17), Sanchez (11)
INTs (fewest) = Campbell (12), Sanchez (17), [B]Cutler (22)[/B]
QB rating = [U]Campbell (89.0)[/U], Cutler (75.2), Sanchez (63.7)
Rush yds = Campbell (179), Cutler (135), Sanchez(97)


Week 14 Campbell overview:[/SIZE]

Another impressive and efficient game from Campbell. 2 TDs, no INTs and a 106.5 passer rating. He had the most passing yards of the three QBs, although Sanchez was benched due to a knee, but there is some who think his performance may have helped the head coach make the decision to keep him inactive. The Jets won handily without him. Cutler continues to throw INTs, now a league-leading 22 picks, nearly double of Campbell's total. Not only is Campbell caught up to Cutler in yards and TDs with the very possible and likely scenario that he surpasses Jay in both by season's end, but Chicago has only one more win than the Redskins and are falling further while the Redskins play very well over the last month.

SmootSmack 12-14-2009 09:55 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
Too early, way too early, to say Sanchez is a bust

Monkeydad 12-14-2009 10:19 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
For the year, he is.

Long-term, as Campbell has proven, rookie QBs need time and patience to develop. Of course I'm not writing him off long term, he shows a little more than Ryan Leaf, but as for the year...if we had him, we'd be lucky to have 1 or 2 wins.

Monkeydad 12-22-2009 01:36 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[SIZE=2]UPDATED stats/assessment...Campbell is seriously lucky to be alive...still managed better stats than the other two.


Cutler:
WK 15 - [B]10/37 (37.0%)[/B], [B]94 yds[/B], 0 TD, [B]3 INT[/B], [SIZE=4][B]7.9 rating[/B][/SIZE], 23 rush yds
TOTAL: 294/484 (60.7%), 3,117 yds, 19 TD, [/SIZE][SIZE=2][B]25 INT[/B], 71.1 rating, 158 rush yds

Sanchez:
WK 15 - [/SIZE][SIZE=2]18/32 (56.3%), 226 yds, 1 TD,[B] 3 INT[/B], 49.7 rating, 7 rush yds[/SIZE][SIZE=2]
TOTAL: 176/329 (53.5%), 2,275 yds, 12 TD, [B]20 INT[/B], 62.3 rating, 104 rush yds

Campbell:
WK 15 - 15/28 (53.6%), 192 yds, 1 TD, 2 INT, 57.4 rating, 36 rush yds
TOTAL: 275/426 (64.6%), 3,138 yds, 18 TD, 14 INT, 87.0 rating, 215 rush yds


Ranks:
Comp. % = Campbell (64.6%), Cutler (60.7%), Sanchez (53.5%)
Yds =[B] Campbell (3,138)[/B], Cutler (3,117), Sanchez (2,049)
TDs = Cutler (19), Campbell (18), Sanchez (12)
INTs (fewest) = Campbell (14), Sanchez (20), [B]Cutler (25)[/B]
QB rating = Campbell (87.0), Cutler (71.1), Sanchez (62.3)
Rush yds = Campbell (215), Cutler (158), Sanchez(104)


Week 15 Campbell overview:[/SIZE]

I have never seen a QB take such a beating from the lack of an offensive line. They HAD been playing well, protecting Jason fairly well over the last month. That ended with a thud tonight. Officially, Jason was sacked 5 times but anyone who watched saw him on his face after nearly every play, being hit before even dropping back many times. He ran out of trouble a few times, once very nice run for the Skins first 1st-down of the game. He was abused and beaten badly, even knocked out of the game at the end of the first half. It looked like he was done for sure, but came back out and played hard despite being hit hard. He showed heart and leadership despite making some mistakes (2 INTs). He was one of the only bright spots in one of the worst massacres I've ever seen. Even the Patriots 52-7 blowout didn't seem THIS ugly...we knew they were doing that to all of their opponents that year. Despite the rough game, Jason's numbers look respectable compared to Sanchez and Cutler, ESPECIALLY CUTLER. His line is one of the worst I've ever seen. Only 10 (37%) completions, under 100 yards, 3 INTs, 0 TDs and a 7.9 passer rating! Sanchez also threw 3 picks.

Tough, tough week for Campbell. Hopefully he will be able to walk and prepare for Dallas in the short practice week. I don't know if Zorn was calling plays again tonight, but it looked nothing like the team that was on a roll lately. Regardless, Jason earned some more respect from me and I bet a lot of other people after his courageous performance in a disaster of a game that was not his fault. I've said before he had no chance behind his O-line, but it was never more true than this MNF game.

Ruhskins 12-22-2009 01:45 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
As much as I have been a Campbell supporter, he did some stupid plays...however, he was beaten and bruised a lot during the game.

GTripp0012 12-22-2009 03:56 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2009/week-15-quick-reads]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Week 15 Quick Reads[/url]

Worst quarterbacks of the week, ranked by DYAR:

29. Alex Smith
30. Jason Campbell
31. Matt Hasselbeck
32. Mark Sanchez
33. Jay Cutler

I hate to keep harping on last offseason, but this really keeps getting more and more hilarious.

Bozzy 12-22-2009 08:07 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
What I don't get is that anytime Campbell sees something he doesnt like he calls timeout instead of calling an audible...

I cant even remember the last time Campbell changed the play at the line...

is he not allowed to?

Chico23231 12-22-2009 09:00 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=SmootSmack;639516]Too early, way too early, to say Sanchez is a bust[/quote]

Exactly, not even close. I take these Sanchez stats as meaningless. Cutler on the other hand is surprisingly aweful, but so is that whole team.

Pocket$ $traight 12-22-2009 09:08 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
Campbell is a warrior and a the type of guy you want on your team.

Kalisto2010 12-22-2009 09:50 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=SmootSmack;639516]Too early, way too early, to say Sanchez is a bust[/quote]

Actually, Sanchez is going to be a fantastic QB. Despite the myriad of interceptions he's made a lot of big plays for his team. I remember when Troy Aikman or Peyton first came in the league they were interceptions left and right. But they also demonstrated the ability to make plays for their teams. I'm not saying Sanchez will be as good as those two, but as you stated it's way to early to call him a bust.

Ruhskins 12-22-2009 09:53 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=Kalisto2010;644469]Actually, Sanchez is going to be a fantastic QB. Despite the myriad of interceptions he's made a lot of big plays for his team. I remember when Troy Aikman or Peyton first came in the league they were interceptions left and right. But they also demonstrated the ability to make plays for their teams. I'm not saying Sanchez will be as good as those two, but as you stated it's way to early to call him a bust.[/quote]

Good point. I just think that Sanchez here would have been a terrible idea. He would have been another David Carr or Patrick Ramsey, and would have been shell shocked by the end of the season. I just pray that this team realizes how awful of a line they have have and take care of that before they bring in the new QB of the future.

SmootSmack 12-22-2009 10:11 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
I need to go back and watch the game (no, I'm not a masochist) and see why exactly Collins was able to step right in and make two big throws. What did he have that Campbell didn't?

tryfuhl 12-22-2009 10:24 AM

Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie
 
[quote=SmootSmack;644485]I need to go back and watch the game (no, I'm not a masochist) and see why exactly Collins was able to step right in and make two big throws. What did he have that Campbell didn't?[/quote]
He put touch on the ball and had the trust in the receiver to bring the ball in. I mean those balls were exactly where they needed to be and the coverage wasn't exactly relaxed. Campbell has enough picks on the year a couple of extra ones aren't going to hurt. If I recall correcty Collins promptly stepped up where he had space and got the balls out relatively quickly. I mean maybe the line put a lil extra juice in their blocks for the backup but that's something I'd have to go back and look at as well.

ESPN broke down the Campbell throws.. 15 completions/28 attempts... 3 overthrown, 2 underthrown, 2 picks, 1 drop, etc


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