Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=wilsowilso;832458]I love Rick Perry's response in the debate last night on the issue of health care and why the state of Texas has the highest rate of uninsured Americans in the entire freakin country at 27.2%. That's an awful number by the way.

This moron actually blamed the Federal government for that sickening statistic.

Medicare covers 2.3 million Texans.
Medicaid covers 3.3 million Texans.

If you take away federal programs Texas would have a 40% uninsured population!

What the heck does the Republican party plan to do? For anyone?

It's a joke.[/quote]

He's a funny guy for sure.

When asked about immigration he proposed beefing up border security with more boots on the ground (border patrol agents and the National Guard) and policing the border with Drone predators, essentially creating either a much larger agency or a new one. But no federal spending, God no. I'm sure the free market and unleashing our entrepreneurial spirit will solve our immigration problem. Can't have gubment blocking bidness.

He has good hair though.

Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=12thMan;832382]He's an asshat for sure.

The entire healthcare ruling will now come down to Justice Anthony Kennedy. Even then, I doubt the entire law will be struck down. Basically, even if they strip out the individ. mandate, that's what Obama campaigned on all along.[/quote]

You do realize that without the individ mandate his plan sty rockets the national dept? His plan will not work without the mandate because it funds the program. He needs the healthy uninsured to pay for the sick uninsured.

Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=wilsowilso;832458]I love Rick Perry's response in the debate last night on the issue of health care and why the state of Texas has the highest rate of uninsured Americans in the entire freakin country at 27.2%. That's an awful number by the way.

This moron actually blamed the Federal government for that sickening statistic.

Medicare covers 2.3 million Texans.
Medicaid covers 3.3 million Texans.

If you take away federal programs Texas would have a 40% uninsured population!

What the heck does the Republican party plan to do? For anyone?

It's a joke.[/quote]
Yea but how many of those Texans are actuall Mexcans.

Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=12thMan;832465]He's a funny guy for sure.

When asked about immigration he proposed beefing up border security with more boots on the ground (border patrol agents and the National Guard) and policing the border with Drone predators, essentially creating either a much larger agency or a new one. But no federal spending, God no. I'm sure the free market and unleashing our entrepreneurial spirit will solve our immigration problem. Can't have gubment blocking bidness.

He has good hair though.[/quote]Enforcement of existing laws by federal agencies would be a good start. The money saved by reducing illegal immigration far outweighs the cost of implementing any additional security measures.

Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=wilsowilso;832458]What the heck does the Republican party plan to do? For anyone?[/quote]Stop the orgy of Federal spending, reform entitlements, and stop the mortgaging of our children's and grandchildren's financial futures.....but I'm an optimist.

Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;832598]Stop the orgy of Federal spending, reform entitlements, and stop the mortgaging of our children's and grandchildren's financial futures.....but I'm an optimist.[/quote]


Not going to happen while they persist on beating the global war drum, and pandering to big businesses.

Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=NC_Skins;832865]Not going to happen while they persist on beating the global war drum, and pandering to big businesses.[/quote]

I guessing your talking about Obama?

Re: Obama Care
 

All I can say is if people wanted "free health care" then they should have moved to Canada. Why people and the Gov. thinks this is such a good option is beyond me, especially with so many Canadians taking vacations to America simply to get their health care needs met. Oh Canadians will tell you its not a bad system for small stuff like the common cold but god forbid you need surgery, your better off having Keiser.

Re: Obama Care
 

you guys do know that people on welfare (under 21k or something like that) and old people already have free health care.

this would only cover the people who make more than the welfare income limits but not enough money to allocate $300 a month to health insurance . . . .this basically just covers hard working people who dont make alot of money.

Re: Obama Care
 

[url=http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_LONG_TERM_CARE_PROGRAM?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-10-14-15-24-47]News from The Associated Press[/url]

Re: Obama Care
 

Good link, GM. This was a good move. But I wonder what will actually be left for SCOTUS to strike down, if they strike down anything at all?

Seems like Obama is finally getting the politics of how all of this going down. First they fast track the legislation to the Supreme Court, then he pulls the plug on a major part of the law. I say whatever can be done to make it better and less expensive for the taxpayer, I'm all for it.

Re: Obama Care
 

The Long Term Care Market is really a very different animal when it comes to insurance. Basically you have five carriers running the show: New York Life, Mass Mutual, Met Life, Northwestern Mutual, (NYL and NM are one and two), and Guardian.

But even a few of the big five are starting to jump ship and get out of the long-term care business because it's such a tough market to sustain profitability over time. So there's no way the government, with no brokers or agents pushing it's product, could compete with the major insurance carriers and their marketing machines.

[url=http://www.lifehealthpro.com/2011/02/07/guardian-to-leave-ltc-insurance-market]Guardian to Leave LTC Insurance Market | LifeHealthPro[/url]

Re: Obama Care
 

This move was interesting on a few levels. CLASS represented 40% of the overall $210 billion in savings of deficit reduction over the next 10 yrs. Basically you do the math and the numbers change significantly. I wonder if CBO has to re-score the bill and projected savings.

Republicans are planning on having a hearing in the near future to see what took the White House so long to scrap the program. I'm very interested myself to hear the answer to that one.

Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=12thMan;846958]This move was interesting on a few levels. CLASS represented 40% of the overall $210 billion in savings of deficit reduction over the next 10 yrs. Basically you do the math and the numbers change significantly. I wonder if CBO has to re-score the bill and projected savings.

Republicans are planning on having a hearing in the near future to see what took the White House so long to scrap the program. I'm very interested myself to hear the answer to that one.[/quote]

The answer is that this bill, with his name attached no less, is generally a pretty crappy bill that got rammed through without enough work and input from all sides (blame game tonight at 11) leading to it being received rather negatively by a majority of the electorate. The ensuing battle over its future coincided with a relatively crappy economic year in which the POTUS has and is currently taking it in the pants popularity-wise. So dismantling parts of his signature bill probably seemed unwise politically until he basically had no choice. I know you know this but I thought maybe I'd save the tax payers some money since apparently the republicans don't already understand it. Otherwise why the hell would they waste the time and money to investigate something that is so obvious? They are equal dunces. If not more.

Re: Obama Care
 

[quote=firstdown;832883]I guessing your talking about Obama?[/quote]

I was referring to ALL of them.