Greenland Thread.
 

This is one thread I hope dies an early death.

The consequences of the United States attacking / invading or annexing Greenland: Here’s just a few possibilities of how it plays out for the US.

The geopolitical equivalent of committing state suicide.

The first effect is this: The US seizing territory from a NATO country, won’t be letters of protest or Ambassador recalls.

It will trigger the end of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, which provides at its core - a treaty between member nations. At the heart and design of this treaty is the collective defence obligation “an armed attack on one, is an attack on all”.

This treaty has kept the peace for over 75 years, and it will cease to exist immediately, as the aggressor is a member of NATO. The organisation will lose a principal ally, while creating a new enemy.

Potential repercussions: If only a few of these materialise - it will be catastrophic for the USA.

Europe will immediately demand the closure of every U.S. military base on the continent. Ramstein in Germany, Aviano in Italy, Lakenheath in the UK.

The US’s ability to project power into the Middle East and Africa vanishes overnight. They will be evicted from the very soil they helped liberate and defended for decades, and forced to retreat to their own shores as a fortress nation, isolated and friendless. Perhaps Trump may even forge new alliances with Russia and China.

Economically, the European Union is the largest single market in the world, and they will immediately be compelled to respond to it, under Article 47.2 TFEU - which is the EU’s own mutual defence treaty and framework.

Europe will likely move to call in U.S. debt and dump their dollar reserves, sending the value of our currency into a death spiral.

The U.S. economy, which relies on the dollar being the global reserve currency, will collapse. Inflation will make the post-COVID spikes look like a rounding error. US citizens savings will be worthless before the ink dries on the invasion orders.

Corporate America will face an extinction event. U.S. companies will be expelled from the European market. Apple, Google, McDonald's, and Tesla will see their assets seized or their operations banned.

Trillions of dollars in market capitalization will be incinerated in minutes. The stock market will not just crash; it will close. We are talking about the complete de-globalization of American industry, cutting them off from the wealthiest consumers on the planet.

The skies will go silent. European aviation authorities will almost certainly ground all Boeing jets and ban U.S. airlines from their airspace. Transatlantic travel will cease. If US citizens are in Paris or Berlin, they are stuck there. The logistical arteries that feed our supply chains will be severed.

The US will be cut off from European medicine, machinery, and technology. They will be an island nation in the worst possible sense.

The cultural isolation will be just as stinging. The International Olympic Committee and FIFA will have no choice but to bar the United States from competition, just as they did with Russia.

For individual Americans, the consequences will be personal and painful. Visa-free travel to Europe will end immediately. Americans currently living or working in Europe will lose their legal protections and residency status.

This is the end of trust, and it does not reset.

You cannot invade a democratic ally and then say "my bad" four years later. The psychological break will be permanent.

Europe will realize that the United States is no longer a partner but a predator. Europe will build its own defense architecture, their own financial systems, and their own alliances that specifically exclude the US.

The West will continue, but the United States will no longer be part of it. This is by design of the Trump regime and it’s army of social media influencers acting as officially endorsed pseudo advisors.

Invading or annexing Greenland is not a show of strength; it is an act of national suicide.


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Re: Greenland Thread.
 

The fact this is even being discussed is absolute bonkers. The GOP congressmen supporting this shit are mind blowing. These same assholes railed about the NEOCONS from the old Republican party.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

What if a million folks illegally cross into Greenland from the US?

No one here will have a problem with that..right?

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

Why stop at Greenland? Lets just invade Europe too. And invade Russia through Alaska. Work our way down to China. Bring back the draft, anybody who isn't crippled has to serve. Anybody who declines to serve, lets set up prison camps for them. Use forced labor to make things that serve the war machine.

We've come a long way from "no new foreign wars, America needs to come first."

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

[quote=mooby;1379443]Why stop at Greenland? Lets just invade Europe too. And invade Russia through Alaska. Work our way down to China. Bring back the draft, anybody who isn't crippled has to serve. Anybody who declines to serve, lets set up prison camps for them. Use forced labor to make things that serve the war machine.
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We've come a long way from "no new foreign wars, America needs to come first."[/quote]

Thing is he won't stop. Greenland, then Canada and most likely Cuba. He is a wanna be Dictator.............he envy's Putin.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

Who would have thought than John Fetterman would turn out to be a republican plant? Him and Dr. Oz must have been in cahoots or something in PA. Walking around in a hoodie was a genius distraction.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1379461]Who would have thought than John Fetterman would turn out to be a republican plant? Him and Dr. Oz must have been in cahoots or something in PA. Walking around in a hoodie was a genius distraction.[/quote]

great response to a thread about Greenland.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

[quote=Giantone;1379462]great response to a thread about Greenland.[/quote]

Fetterman recently commented that he isn't against trying to acquire Greenland and that it's been discussed before. So yes, it is relative.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

I obviously wouldn’t support military action to take Greenland, but this territory has been sought after since ww2 by multiple administrations for security.

I kinda feel embarrassed for some because the same ones who sat back, watched and agreed with the Obama and Biden administrations policies of Russia which lead directly to the Ukraine war are now crying about Greenland. They play dumb and are proudly ignorant. You don’t understand China Belts and Roads initiative…would you consider the lead up to Russia/Ukraine war successful policy by Obama and NATO? We told the European to spend more money on defense and not be energy reliant with Russia.

I get you don’t like Trump, but he is once again correct in aggressively agitating Europe about Greenland, it’s a security weak point. Even fucking Denmark admitted it in intelligent reports.

We don’t need to own Greenland but there needs to be a comprehensive agreement that it’s in NATO strongest interest that we have an overwhelming presence there and in the Artic space. That cost will burden the US much more than the EU per the usual.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1379463]Fetterman recently commented that he isn't against trying to acquire Greenland and that it's been discussed before. So yes, it is relative.[/quote]

Then mention it your post ,DA!

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

Looks like we moved towards a long term strategic deal with Denmark and the EU with Greenland. Seems like a win win moving forward. Denmark also signaled earlier this year they were going to spend substantially more beefing up Greenland with military and intelligence ops.

New framework:
Resource Control: A right of first refusal on rare earth minerals and other critical resources, giving the U.S. an economic advantage.

Enhanced Military Posture: A framework for increased U.S. military presence, potentially for missile defense (like the "Golden Dome" system) closer to Russia.

No Purchase, But Influence: Replaces the demand for outright purchase with a long-term "deal" that gives the U.S. significant strategic and economic sway in the Arctic region.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

[quote=Chico23231;1379476]Looks like we moved towards a long term strategic deal with Denmark and the EU with Greenland. .

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We always had one.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

[quote=Giantone;1379479]We always had one.[/quote]

Exactly what someone who is big mad that we are again confronting China and Russia much more aggressively. This is like when someone said Obama confronted Putin when he sent rations meals and sleeping bags to Ukraine while denying any lethal aid.

This goes way beyond the previous agreement, includes missile defense, I believe ownership of military base…but also mineral rights and first refusal of minerals.

Sec Bessent presented a very uncomfortable truth the other day with a chart tracking NATO defense spending vs other expenditures the EU chose.

Also Europe is still buying Russia energy 4 years later. What a disgraceful act and pathetic strategy. Utterly embarrassing. It’s absolutely indefensible at this point.

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

[quote=Chico23231;1379481]Exactly what someone who is big mad that we are again confronting China and Russia much more aggressively. This is like when someone said Obama confronted Putin when he sent rations meals and sleeping bags to Ukraine while denying any lethal aid.

This goes way beyond the previous agreement, includes missile defense, I believe ownership of military base…but also mineral rights and first refusal of minerals.

Sec Bessent presented a very uncomfortable truth the other day with a chart tracking NATO defense spending vs other expenditures the EU chose.

Also Europe is still buying Russia energy 4 years later. What a disgraceful act and pathetic strategy. Utterly embarrassing. It’s absolutely indefensible at this point.[/quote]


This is of course a response from a trumper being pulled around by the nose We already had everything agreed to. Diplomacy works trump should try it

Re: Greenland Thread.
 

Trumps trip to Davos was another one of his many failures and inability to deliver on his promises.

All the talk of taking over Greenland, US needs Greenland he is going to Davos to take Greenland and he comes away with nothing.

He says he has a deal in place yet the Netherlands weren't even in Davos you can't have a deal if all parties aren't involved.

Asked afterwards about the "deal" his response well we have a "framework" for a deal. A framework is nothing. Asked about specifics and he rambles incoherently. That is because nothing is set up. Clearly Dementia Don is as in bad of shape as sleepy Joe.

Asked about how long the deal will last and his response is to the year infinity. What the fuck does that even mean?

This is a long line of his "deals" that have never come to fruition. What a stain on the underwear this guy is. He is such a laughing stock.