WR Screen... when will we see it tomorrow?
 

Ok, this is an unoffical poll, but I was watching the Skins/Eagles game last week with a fellow Skins fan and I correctly pre-called one of the WR screens to Moss before it happened. We try it every week, but Gibbs seems to pick his spots, so my question is when will see this week? Early? Late? Everyone knows we run it, but it seems to work most of the time.

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I hope it's a pure audible. We can expect Ronde Barber to line up in front of Moss every time this week. If he is playing up, that's a very dangerous pass. If he's playing back, it's at least an eight yard pickup.

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I'd say later on. They'll be prep'd for it so early on I wouldn't want to run it. In fact I'd love to run a fake of some sort out of it's formation early on and then follow it up with a few different types of plays from the same formation to loosen up the coverage on it so early in the 3rd we can run it and watch Moss bitchify Barber on it hopefully.

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I have seen a couple teams in the past run that pump fake handoff all in one motion deal. I'd love to see that type of thing out of the WR screen formation. Does anyoen know what formation they sue and whether it would even be possible or work?

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I really like the fake WR screen and go idea...

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]I hope it's a pure audible. We can expect Ronde Barber to line up in front of Moss every time this week. If he is playing up, that's a very dangerous pass. If he's playing back, it's at least an eight yard pickup.[/QUOTE]
I read the Skins usually have three options on every pass play and the play goes based on what defense they get. Maybe if they get press coverage they go to a different option on that play. In fact I'd bet that's normal operating procedure week in and week out on that play. Let's hope we don't actually try to throw it into press coverage.

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Man when that play works it is a thing of beauty. But I have to admit I cringe everytime it is run. One player out of position and it is "6" for the other team.

We will see it, several times I think.

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Barber is pretty damn good and fast too. Hopefully Gibbs will use a formation he hasn't shown yet for WR screen.

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I think it's really been a very dangerous pass all season. I think our motion before the snap has helped buy some time to allow the play to develope.

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On this same note, what is the Over / Under that Sellers scores on that "Fullback into the flat" pass from inside the 10yard line that he does every week!

The Skins run that every week and no one seems to ever cover Sellers, Someone is not watching film very well.

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i would say later on durung the game.
it,s has to come at amoment when we can catch them off a little bit
it is scary though.

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[QUOTE=scowan]On this same note, what is the Over / Under that Sellers scores on that "Fullback into the flat" pass from inside the 10yard line that he does every week!

The Skins run that every week and no one seems to ever cover Sellers, Someone is not watching film very well.[/QUOTE]
Some one will eventually cover Sellers on that play and we'll actually get to see who the play is designed for. It couldn't be designed for him as the real first option because, well it's Mike Sellers. But there has to be another good option on that play. Another option that was probably initially the real first option before the league decided not to cover Sellers like he had the plague or something. It is amazing how he consistently doesn't get covered on it.

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I wouldn't mind seeing ST lined up on the goal line as a reciever again...

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Some one will eventually cover Sellers on that play and we'll actually get to see who the play is designed for. It couldn't be designed for him as the real first option because, well it's Mike Sellers. But there has to be another good option on that play. Another option that was probably initially the real first option before the league decided not to cover Sellers like he had the plague or something. It is amazing how he consistently doesn't get covered on it.[/QUOTE]

It's a very tough play to defend in the redzone because the D is so keyed in on the run.

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Regarding the WR screen, is this the same play so many people had such a big problem with last year and earlier in this season?

I guess having the right personnel and good execution makes a big difference. ;)

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yeah, and cooley is getting down and blocking as the ball gets there, and moss has a wicked first step...

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I say use the fake wr screen and have portis going deep and hit portis.

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[QUOTE=scowan]On this same note, what is the Over / Under that Sellers scores on that "Fullback into the flat" pass from inside the 10yard line that he does every week!

The Skins run that every week and no one seems to ever cover Sellers, Someone is not watching film very well.[/QUOTE]

Yea, i was thinking the same thing. Its pretty humoruous. I'd like to know how many times we've scores on that pass this year, i'm guessing, maybe 10 times or more?? I don't know that it hasn't worked this season.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Regarding the WR screen, is this the same play so many people had such a big problem with last year and earlier in this season?

I guess having the right personnel and good execution makes a big difference. ;)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, same wan Coles basically thought was useless and ineffective. Same one that when Gibbs would call it, people would say the game has passed him by.

Yeah, I think this is the same play:)

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Does anyone know why we don't run Moss on the reverse more often? He's so frickin fast, he'd at least get back to the line of scrimmage - and more likely, break it for a first down or more.

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[QUOTE=Ade Jimoh Fan Club]Does anyone know why we don't run Moss on the reverse more often? He's so frickin fast, he'd at least get back to the line of scrimmage - and more likely, break it for a first down or more.[/QUOTE]

You know, in general I don't think we have much success with that play at all. I don't think it makes a difference with us who's running it, it seems like we just never have really broken one on a reverse.

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The beauty of the Sellers goaline play is that it looks exactly like a Portis run we do where Sellers is the leadblocker running Portis off-tackle...by the time Sellers break from the tackle outside and looks for the throw, the defense reads run and everyone hits the line of scrimmage. If we had Jacksonville-era Brunell he would also be able to fake that toss (if covered) and scamper in to the endzone.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]I'd say later on. They'll be prep'd for it so early on I wouldn't want to run it. In fact I'd love to run a fake of some sort out of it's formation early on and then follow it up with a few different types of plays from the same formation to loosen up the coverage on it so early in the 3rd we can run it and watch Moss bitchify Barber on it hopefully.[/QUOTE]

"Bitchify" is my new favorite word.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Regarding the WR screen, is this the same play so many people had such a big problem with last year and earlier in this season?

I guess having the right personnel and good execution makes a big difference. ;)[/QUOTE]

GOD YES. couldnt stand that play last year! we never got more than 4yds on it, but Gibbs kept calling it. Coles hated it the most, cuz he had to run it. and i remember it being a big source of his frustration (ypc).

i remember couple games ago Aikman saying he hated that play in the NFL, but that we run it the best, and it's amazing what adding a little speed to that play will accomplish.

was the WR screen a big Gibbs staple in the '80s? i wasn't old enough to notice.

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[QUOTE=scowan]On this same note, what is the Over / Under that Sellers scores on that "Fullback into the flat" pass from inside the 10yard line that he does every week!

The Skins run that every week and no one seems to ever cover Sellers, Someone is not watching film very well.[/QUOTE]

My buddy and I call it "The Play" and nothing more. We are convinced that we are the only ones who notice that we always run it and it always works. However, its not always Sellers...Cooley and Royal can get involved in "The Play" too. We'll just be sitting there and be like, "Time to run The Play!" and its 6 for the Skins.

The best part about The Play (besides the fact that it means a Skins TD) is that we sit 6 rows from the field in the endzone, so The Play comes like right at us.

I was pretty close to catching the ball that Sellers threw into the crowd during the Cowboys game, but a stupid Cowboys fan in a cape and no shirt got it. He then said he was giving it to his mom as an Xmas gift. What a douche! If it were a Cowboys TD in Texas Stadium Id have thrown that junk back at the player and hoped I knocked him out. What kind of fan keeps a TD ball from the other team?

Sorry Im rambling, but its my last day at work before I go on vacation and I gotta get out of here!!!!

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I agree. Or I would have stuffed it down a Cowboy's fans throat!

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Santana likes the WR screen a lot per his ExtremeSkins chat.

'To be honest with you, this year, my favorite pass IS the screen pass. Anytime they call it, I’m dying to get it in my hands and do wonders with it. It’s crazy that over the years, the screen pass, as much as I’ve been running it, this has been the most yards I’ve gotten out of it since High School. To see it work the way its working now, that has to be my #1 play right now."

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i disagree with brud,i dont think barber will be lined up on moss all game.tampa has always played the cover 2 ever since kiffin has been the d coordinator in tampa.in theory you would think the wr screen would be effective against a zone.thats probably part of the reason portis is so good against them,knowing where people should be all the time

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Someting to look for:

I've noticed a couple of times that they have run the screen they go through what I believe is a charade beforehand of pretending to be disorganized with Brunell directing traffic etc. This was the case against Dallas where it looked as though the Cowboys had the play snuffed, only to allow Moss out of the gate. Brunell orders Jacobs to split left and then has to bring Cooley over to cover the tackle. A little suspicious. I also believe this was the case on the touchdown against K.C. although I may be wrong. It might also be a coincidence but I find it unlikely that anyone would be unsure what to do on aplay they run constantly.

To answer the question, look for it about play 6 of a sustained drive near the opponents 30 yard line. Tampa's strategy will be to try to grab Moss before the ball gets there like they did in the first game that led to a tipped pick by Rice.

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with as agressive as the Bucs d can be at times, I see this being a play that could get called possibly as much as almost half a dozen times tommorrow. I know I for one hope we finally see a portis dump screen or maybe another flea flicker.