Marcus Vick & The Draft (Merged Thread)
 

Classless I know, has caused nothing but problems but I think he can be better than Michael and he might be worth a second or third rounder.

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Somebody is going to take that idiot pretty high, but it's not going to be us thankfully. His brother is the most overated player in the history of the nfl.
IMO

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yeah he is a class act scum he remminds me of Carter for us or Ross but with more running talent can't pass like carter he will be a waste of a pic for the team that gets him hope Jerry doesn't commits the same mistake twice.

we will go as low as a 3rd and as high as a 2nd

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Denny Green will give the boy a chance. Probably early third round.

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Wow, the guys is an idiot. First his dirty play, now getting kicked off the team? Seriously, how the heck does he get in trouble off the field knowing he is on his last strike? Hell, with how much money his brother has the least he can do is ask for is a personal chaperon.

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Is he even coming out? I thought he is just a junior.

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Is he even coming out? I thought he is just a junior.[/QUOTE]

He is a junior but there r probably very few colleges who will give him the chance to come in and start for them so he'll probably take his shot at the pros since he destroyed his chances at VT.

someone will take him or did anyone forget that the Broncos used a 3rd round pick on possible future felon Maurice Clarret?

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Marcus's stock is not high, AT ALL. He didn't play well against good teams. He is thug and an idiot. I dont see many teams wasting a pick on a guy who played one season in college football and wasn't dominating at all. His best bet would be to go to another school , try and get his shit together and play football. Difference between him and Michael is , mike had to work for everything he got, Marcus has been given everything. and as dominant as Mike was in college, I would not even put him in top 5 of QBs in the NFL, Maybe top 8. he is the most overrated player in the NFL.

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I guess he's going to declare now, seeing as he has been kicked out of VT's program.

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COULD IT BE MORE OBVIOUS HE DOESNT RESPECT THE GAME! Another TO

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Hey, could any one fill me in on what happened? How did Marcus Vick get kicked off the VT team?

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I thought he had a suspension comming but not officially kicked off the team, so does any one have an article link?

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nevermind here it is:
[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls05/news/story?id=2282642[/url]

Ladies and Gentlemen the new QB for the Dallas Cowboys... or Saints

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso]Somebody is going to take that idiot pretty high, but it's not going to be us thankfully. His brother is the most overated player in the history of the nfl.
IMO[/QUOTE]

His Brother is the most overrated player in history.....Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Rex Grossman, Tim Couch, David Klinger, Jeff George, Steve Emtman, Chad Pennington, Jason Gamble, Jim Drunkenmiller, Kyle Boller,......only if I had the time to continue.....yea in the history of Football...Vick is the most overrated :yeahright

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[QUOTE=wewhite3]His Brother is the most overrated player in history.....Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Rex Grossman, Tim Couch, David Klinger, Jeff George, Steve Emtman, Chad Pennington, Jason Gamble, Jim Drunkenmiller, Kyle Boller,......only if I had the time to continue.....yea in the history of Football...Vick is the most overrated :yeahright[/QUOTE]

Uh none of those first round busts and headcases ever came anywhere close to the recognition Mike Vick has recieved over his career. At one point not too long ago many thought he was the best player in the league. You can't rate any higher than that and therefore in my estimation he was and is 100% overrated.

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How tall is Marcus? I watch him play and can't help but think he looks awfully small for the NFL. 6th or 7th round, maybe. More likely it's off to Canada or Europe or the back of Mike's limo waiting for the Falcons game to end.

By the way, I wonder what would happen if he stepped on Joe Salavea's arm?

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not worth it

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[QUOTE=70Chip]How tall is Marcus? I watch him play and can't help but think he looks awfully small for the NFL. 6th or 7th round, maybe. More likely it's off to Canada or Europe or the back of Mike's limo waiting for the Falcons game to end.

By the way, I wonder what would happen if he stepped on Joe Salavea's arm?[/QUOTE]


If he stepped on Salavea's arm, he would be even smaller.

What I have to say though is "Thank you Frank Beamer! Thank you for putting your neck out there to say that no one person is bigger than the game." It seems that we've had way too many prima donnas in recent years who thought that they could pretty much do whatever they wanted and come back to open arms in the locker room. Enough is enough. I'll buy Frank and Andy Reid a beer any day.

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[QUOTE=wewhite3]His Brother is the most overrated player in history.....Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington, Rex Grossman, Tim Couch, David Klinger, Jeff George, Steve Emtman, Chad Pennington, Jason Gamble, Jim Drunkenmiller, Kyle Boller,......only if I had the time to continue.....yea in the history of Football...Vick is the most overrated :yeahright[/QUOTE]

You can't be serious. Jeff George is the [b]only[/b] person on that list even [b]close[/b] to Vick. Couch and Pennington are a few steps behind. Beyond that, you are basically listing outstanding college players who never developed into decent NFL players. None of those guys have been called "the prototype for the future of their position."

Vick is [b]by far[/b] the most overrated.

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Man, there seems to be a lot of meatheaditis running around right now, Fred Smoot, Marcus Vick...

Check out this guy's rap sheet, what a dope

[b]Sept. 2, 2003:[/b] Suspended for one game by coach Frank Beamer for undisclosed reason.
[b]Feb. 17, 2004:[/b] Arrested without incident and charged with four misdemeanors -- three for allegedly allowing underage girls to have alcohol and one for allegedly having sex with a 15-year-old at a January party. Released on $2,500 bond.
[b]May 14, 2004:[/b] Convicted of three counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and sentenced to 30 days in jail and fined $2,250. Found not guilty of having sex with the 15-year-old.
[b]July 3, 2004:[/b] Charged with reckless driving and possession of marijuana after a traffic stop about 25 miles east of Richmond, Va. at 2:30 a.m. Police said he was clocked at 86 mph, 21 mph above the speed limit, and that the vehicle smelled of marijuana.
[b]July 6, 2004:[/b] Indefinitely suspended from football team for off-field problems.
[b]Aug. 3, 2004:[/b] Suspended from the university for the 2004 season on same day he pleads guilty to reckless driving and no contest to marijuana possession in New Kent, Va. Is fined $300, has driver's license suspended for 60 days and is placed in a first offender program on the marijuana charge, requiring that he perform 24 hours of community service, undergo drug counseling and random drug tests, and give up his driver's license for six months.
[b]Sept. 13, 2004:[/b] In plea deal, pleads no contest to one misdemeanor count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Receives 30-day suspended jail sentence, is fined $100, ordered to perform 24 hours of community service and stay away from the teenage girls.
[b]Jan. 17, 2005:[/b] Cleared to rejoin football team and re-enroll at Virginia Tech.
[b]Oct. 1, 2005:[/b] Leads No. 3 Hokies to 34-20 victory at West Virginia, and makes obscene gesture to fans who have been calling him names related to past problems throughout the game. He apologized a day later.
[b]Dec. 17, 2005:[/b] Pulled over by police in Hampton, Va. for driving 38 mph in a 25 mph zone and driving with a suspended license.
[b]Jan. 2, 2006:[/b] Leads Virginia Tech to a 35-24 win over Louisville in Gator Bowl. In the game, he stomped on the left calf of Cardinals All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil, the NCAA sacks leader. Claims the incident was accidental and that he apologized to Dumervil, who denies ever receiving apology.
[b]Jan 6, 2006:[/b] Is kicked off team at Virginia Tech for legal trouble and unsportsmanlike conduct in Gator Bowl.
[i]Source: The Associated Press[/i]

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Hey guys, as someone, who lives the area of Vicks, Newport News, VA. I have seen this kid Marcus play, and many have said it well before all this. Marcus could be better than his brother. The fact that he let this fame go to his head, doesnt mean the kid doesnt have talent. trust me I dont care for his antics anymore than anyone, but I call a spade a spade. I bet Micheal will yank his brother in line soon and straighten him up. I bet he goes pretty fast in the draft, probably not the highest becasue fo people scared of his immaturity, but does go because of his talent.

Micheal Vick overated?? Come on his team sucked, a QB cant carry a whole team. Put Vick in any other decent foothball team with good receivers and you would have a team like the Longhorns in the Rose Bowl.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Man, there seems to be a lot of meatheaditis running around right now, Fred Smoot, Marcus Vick...

Check out this guy's rap sheet, what a dope

[b]Sept. 2, 2003:[/b] Suspended for one game by coach Frank Beamer for undisclosed reason.
[b]Feb. 17, 2004:[/b] Arrested without incident and charged with four misdemeanors -- three for allegedly allowing underage girls to have alcohol and one for allegedly having sex with a 15-year-old at a January party. Released on $2,500 bond.
[b]May 14, 2004:[/b] Convicted of three counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and sentenced to 30 days in jail and fined $2,250. Found not guilty of having sex with the 15-year-old.
[b]July 3, 2004:[/b] Charged with reckless driving and possession of marijuana after a traffic stop about 25 miles east of Richmond, Va. at 2:30 a.m. Police said he was clocked at 86 mph, 21 mph above the speed limit, and that the vehicle smelled of marijuana.
[b]July 6, 2004:[/b] Indefinitely suspended from football team for off-field problems.
[b]Aug. 3, 2004:[/b] Suspended from the university for the 2004 season on same day he pleads guilty to reckless driving and no contest to marijuana possession in New Kent, Va. Is fined $300, has driver's license suspended for 60 days and is placed in a first offender program on the marijuana charge, requiring that he perform 24 hours of community service, undergo drug counseling and random drug tests, and give up his driver's license for six months.
[b]Sept. 13, 2004:[/b] In plea deal, pleads no contest to one misdemeanor count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Receives 30-day suspended jail sentence, is fined $100, ordered to perform 24 hours of community service and stay away from the teenage girls.
[b]Jan. 17, 2005:[/b] Cleared to rejoin football team and re-enroll at Virginia Tech.
[b]Oct. 1, 2005:[/b] Leads No. 3 Hokies to 34-20 victory at West Virginia, and makes obscene gesture to fans who have been calling him names related to past problems throughout the game. He apologized a day later.
[b]Dec. 17, 2005:[/b] Pulled over by police in Hampton, Va. for driving 38 mph in a 25 mph zone and driving with a suspended license.
[b]Jan. 2, 2006:[/b] Leads Virginia Tech to a 35-24 win over Louisville in Gator Bowl. In the game, he stomped on the left calf of Cardinals All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil, the NCAA sacks leader. Claims the incident was accidental and that he apologized to Dumervil, who denies ever receiving apology.
[b]Jan 6, 2006:[/b] Is kicked off team at Virginia Tech for legal trouble and unsportsmanlike conduct in Gator Bowl.
[i]Source: The Associated Press[/i][/QUOTE]

Atleast brother Micheal is overrated, but not as bad as Marcus. Micheal learned and changed, and we all know even though he is overrated, he respects and understands his role. Obviously his brother did not pick that up. I wish there were some way to ban this asshole from the NFL.

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Marcus is way more accurate in his throwing. He sticks in the pocket alot longer then his brother. Give him a few years as a back up under a good qb coach and i think he will be one of the best. I say he will end up in Arizona. 2nd round

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There's another thing that the Vicks have in common, both of them have reportedly slept with half the girls at V-Tech, but that's another story. The kid has some talent but so did Tim Couch and others and they never panned out. More and more these days teams want guys with character and heart, what good does talent do your team if the guy is an asshole. Look what T.O. did to the Eagles chemistry in spite of his talent. The best thing for this kid would be for the Falcons to take him in the 6th or 7th round so Michael can try to set him straight. I wouldn't be surprised if Denny Green took him though. I'll laugh if the Cowboys take him. Then they can sign T.O. and once again be the thugs that we've come to know. :lol:

How do the Chargers look right about now - they make that trade with the Falcons and they get LT and Brees and the Falcons are stuck with Mr. Overrated.

I don't give any credit to Frank Beamer though, Vick's ass should have been thrown off the team 2 years ago. That or he shouldn't have been recruited by Beamer at all. Look at that rap sheet, I'll be looking for dude on the next episode of "COPS". Very convenient to kick him off the team now that the season is over and Beamer has another bowl win under his belt. If this had been the 2nd game of the season, I guarantee you Vick wouldn't have even been suspended. Don't forget Beamer also recruited Jim Druckenmiller way back when. Bobby Bowden has the same M.O. with the Criminoles, recruit talent beacuse that leads to bowl wins, and turn the other cheek when one of your players gets in trouble, sweep it under the rug and hope it goes away in the interest of winning games rather than do the morally right thing and send a message to the rest of the team that bad behavior won't be tolerated. You know for sure the Patriots won't be drafting his ass.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso]Uh none of those first round busts and headcases ever came anywhere close to the recognition Mike Vick has recieved over his career. At one point not too long ago many thought he was the best player in the league. You can't rate any higher than that and therefore in my estimation he was and is 100% overrated.[/QUOTE]

Thats right.....so live with it....and all those guys got one thing in common....

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[QUOTE=wewhite3]Thats right.....so live with it....and all those guys got one thing in common....[/QUOTE]

what one thing is that? they're all QBs?

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sportscenter said that when marcus was asked about his dismissal, he replied

something to the effect of

its no big deal, see you at the next level baby


what a fricken tool. i am a student at tech, and i have seen him play live several times. he is a good player, who has done nothing in big games, i.e. florida state and miami, and he is just a straight up douche bag

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]what one thing is that? they're all QBs?[/QUOTE]

Nope - Gramble was a lineman. Keep guessing, I suppose?

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This guy may go on to NFL greatness, but I don't want him on my team. If this season has reminded Redskins fans of anything, it's that character counts.

And hooskins, I would dispute the notion that Michael has learned and changed. He got into pissing matches with the media this year because some writers questioned his passing ability. He is still the subject of a lawsuit that says he reecklessly gave a woman genital herpes while using an alias.

After his suspension from the Hokies two years ago, Marcus Vick moved in with his brother to do some growing up. I'm afraid he learned the wrong lessons - that his amazing ability made him above the rules of the game, and the rules of society.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]This guy may go on to NFL greatness, but I don't want him on my team. If this season has reminded Redskins fans of anything, it's that character counts.

And hooskins, I would dispute the notion that Michael has learned and changed. He got into pissing matches with the media this year because some writers questioned his passing ability. He is still the subject of a lawsuit that says he reecklessly gave a woman genital herpes while using an alias.

After his suspension from the Hokies two years ago, Marcus Vick moved in with his brother to do some growing up. I'm afraid he learned the wrong lessons - that his amazing ability made him above the rules of the game, and the rules of society.[/QUOTE]

No worries Gibbs would never take him.

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Matty:

I see you have adopted the overall concept of "Meatheadedness" and defined the new condition of "Meatheaditis".

Well played, sir... :biggthump

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[QUOTE=wewhite3]Thats right.....so live with it....and all those guys got one thing in common....[/QUOTE]


Ok I officially have no idea what you are talking about, but that's ok because we have a playoff game today and it's time to kick some ass!

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Surprise, surprise - Vick is officially going pro.
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060107/ap_on_sp_co_ne/fbc_va_tech_vick_dismissed[/url]

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To anyone who darafts him, two words: Terrell Owens

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The question is, "Who is dumber, Marcus Vick or Maurice Clarett?"

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Until Vick gets caught with a gun, Clarett takes the cake.

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yeah maurice clarett is worse than that. I liked Marcus Vick before, but i'm not a fan of the guy now. He has got to grow up. I would send him to live with someone responsible for a while, then after a year or two i would give him a shot, but if he screwed up one more time, i'd give up on him. I know a lot of people wouldn't do this, but I am the kind of person who would give a man one more shot to correct his ways.

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[QUOTE=mooby]yeah maurice clarett is worse than that. I liked Marcus Vick before, but i'm not a fan of the guy now. He has got to grow up. I would send him to live with someone responsible for a while, then after a year or two i would give him a shot, but if he screwed up one more time, i'd give up on him. I know a lot of people wouldn't do this, but I am the kind of person who would give a man one more shot to correct his ways.[/QUOTE]

Hmm...that sounds [b]exactly[/b] like what Beamer did for Vick 2 years ago. And we all know how that turned out...

Vick(the other)
 

Look whos joinin the big boys. I can only laugh about this. wonder what round he will go in? late second early 3rd? what do you guys think about this?


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Talking about it here:

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=10242[/url]