Reggie Bush's Contract
 

[URL=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2289961]How much is the guy worth?[/URL]. Would you be willing to pay someone just out of college 25 million signing bonus? I just can't believe anyone would be willing to cough-up that kind of dough. I see a potential long, long holdout.

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[QUOTE=saden1][url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2289961"]How much is the guy worth?[/url]. Would you be willing to pay someone just out of college 25 million signing bonus? I just can't believe anyone would be willing to cough-up that kind of dough. I see a potential long, long holdout.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, but I do not think there will be a holdout. I would not be willing to give a bonus that high, just because I am still not a 100 percent believer in Bush. He is amazing, but he had <15 carries per game, and in the NFL it is likely he might get around 40ish. That could potentially do alot of damage to his small frame. But hey Barry Sanders was about the same size, and look what he did.

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somebody is gonna' be REAL disapppointed if he does not work out! I don't want ANYBODY for that kind of jack

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i better get 2000 yards rushing,100 receptions and 30 touchdowns a season for all that

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Guess what, Bush will be the highest paid rookie to come out in recent history.

I think he's bordering on LaBron pre-draft hype. In terms of athletic potential and marketing potential. I can see the marketing guru's now, playing on his last name "Bush" like they've played on the whole "King James" thing.

Whether he's all that or not, no one will wait and see. They'll just give him a truck load of money and let the chips fall where they may. Back up the U-Haul boys, here comes Reggie Bush!!

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[QUOTE=saden1][URL=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2289961]How much is the guy worth?[/URL]. Would you be willing to pay someone just out of college 25 million signing bonus? I just can't believe anyone would be willing to cough-up that kind of dough. I see a potential long, long holdout.[/QUOTE]
They'll have a contract in place when they draft him. The first pick in the draft is allowed to negotiate before the draft. They won't draft him if it is clear they are far apart.

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[QUOTE=hooskins]Perhaps, but I do not think there will be a holdout. I would not be willing to give a bonus that high, just because I am still not a 100 percent believer in Bush. He is amazing, but he had <15 carries per game, and in the NFL it is likely he might get around 40ish. That could potentially do alot of damage to his small frame. But hey Barry Sanders was about the same size, and look what he did.[/QUOTE]

40 is an excessive figure. The highest average this season was only [url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/RB-RUSHING/2005/regular?&_1:col_1=5]24 carries/game[/url]. He will get more touches, but the length of the season will probably take more of a toll. However, if he goes to Houston, he probably won't have to worry about staying healthy for the playoffs...

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Rookie contracts have gotten WAY out of control. I heard Howie Long say something interesting on the fox pregame show probably a couple months ago. He says rookies should get a flat pay coming into the NFL with incentive escalators. If, after their rookie season, the player is a starter, he can renegotiate his contract. Or something like that. Long said the idea would get alot of support from the player's union because it would put more money in the pool for veterans.

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[QUOTE=andy1282]Rookie contracts have gotten WAY out of control. I heard Howie Long say something interesting on the fox pregame show probably a couple months ago. He says rookies should get a flat pay coming into the NFL with incentive escalators. If, after their rookie season, the player is a starter, he can renegotiate his contract. Or something like that. Long said the idea would get alot of support from the player's union because it would put more money in the pool for veterans.[/QUOTE]

Totally, how many Heismann winners have been successful?

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[QUOTE=Hog1]Totally, how many Heismann winners have been successful?[/QUOTE]
I think there are more busts than booms, but it's not as lopsided as you think. Of course, there are still 2 more out there TBD (Leinart and Bush).

[SIZE=4][U]BUSTS (Bad)[/U][/SIZE]
[code]YEAR WINNER SCHOOL POSITION
2003 Jason White Oklahoma QB
2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska QB
2000 Chris Weinke Florida State QB
1999 Ron Dayne Wisconsin RB
1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida QB
1994 Rashaan Salaam Colorado RB
1993 Charlie Ward Florida State QB
1992 Gino Torretta Miami QB
1991 Desmond Howard Michigan WR
1990 Ty Detmer Brigham Young QB
1989 Andre Ware Houston QB
1985 Bo Jackson Auburn RB
1983 Mike Rozier Nebraska RB
1982 Herschel Walker Georgia RB
1979 Charles White Southern California RB
1973 John Cappelletti Penn State RB
1972 Johnny Rodgers Nebraska WR
1971 Pat Sullivan Auburn QB
1969 Steve Owens Oklahoma HB
1967 Gary Beban UCLA QB
1966 Steve Spurrier Florida QB
1965 Mike Garrett Southern California HB
1964 John Huarte Notre Dame QB[/code]

[SIZE=4][U]BOOMS (Good)[/U][/SIZE]
[code]YEAR WINNER SCHOOL POSITION
2002 Carson Palmer Southern California QB
1998 Ricky Williams Texas RB
1997 Charles Woodson Michigan DB/WR
1995 Eddie George Ohio State RB
1988 Barry Sanders Oklahoma State RB
1987 Tim Brown Notre Dame WR
1986 Vinny Testaverde Miami QB
1984 Doug Flutie Boston College QB
1981 Marcus Allen Southern California RB
1980 George Rogers South Carolina RB
1978 Billy Sims Oklahoma RB
1977 Earl Campbell Texas RB
1976 Tony Dorsett Pittsburgh RB
1975 Archie Griffin Ohio State RB
1974 Archie Griffin Ohio State RB
1970 Jim Plunkett Stanford QB
1968 O.J. Simpson Southern California HB
1963 Roger Staubach Navy QB[/code]

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I'm sure people will take issue with some of my classifications, but I think "successful" has a broad definition.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]I'm sure people will take issue with some of my classifications, but I think "successful" has a broad definition.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I have to disagree with a few of those. Herschel Walker had a pretty good career, so he shouldn't be labeled a "bust". Bo Jackson was one of the best backs in the league before a freak injury finished his career. If you're basing it on the length of his career, then I can see your argument, but if Ricky Williams and Vinny Testaverde are considered "good" then Jackson certainly should be.

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I know he's not on the list, but Gayle Sayers only played a little over 5 yrs w/Bears before his career ended and yet is in HOF.

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What every happened to the running back I think played for either Miami or FL State who got their knee blown out in a bowl game. I forgott his name but I do remember that he got drafted later and I think he was the Heis.winner that year. This was about 2 or 3 years ago.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]What every happened to the running back I think played for either Miami or FL State who got their knee blown out in a bowl game. I forgott his name but I do remember that he got drafted later and I think he was the Heis.winner that year. This was about 2 or 3 years ago.[/QUOTE]

Willis McGeHee

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[QUOTE=Southpaw]Yeah, I have to disagree with a few of those. Herschel Walker had a pretty good career, so he shouldn't be labeled a "bust". Bo Jackson was one of the best backs in the league before a freak injury finished his career. If you're basing it on the length of his career, then I can see your argument, but if Ricky Williams and Vinny Testaverde are considered "good" then Jackson certainly should be.[/QUOTE]

Bo is hard to peg since he played two sports. I moved him a couple of times before just dropping him in bust. I would agree, though, that he could be considered a success.

Check [URL=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/WillRi00.htm]Ricky's stats[/URL] - I think you have to consider him a success, despite his weirdness. Sitting out a year doesn't help, and that assessment could change a few years down the road.

Vinny has 45,000 passing yards and 270 TDs over an 18 year career - that's a success any way you slice it.

Herschel had [URL=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/WalkHe00.htm]three good years[/URL] at the beginning of his career, but didn't really do squat afterward. He wasn't a complete bust, but I'm not sure I would categorize him as a success.

There should probably be three categories - those who did very well, those who did fine, and those who were complete busts.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Willis McGeHee[/QUOTE]

He came out as a sophomore - I think he finished 4th in the voting?

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]He came out as a sophomore - I think he finished 4th in the voting?[/QUOTE]

Not sure, but that's the back he was referring to.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]Not sure, but that's the back he was referring to.[/QUOTE]

Yeah - I meant to quote firstdown. Oops!