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FirstandTen 01-14-2006 01:55 AM

NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
This is a joke.... Not only are all the "Experts" picking Seattle to win but there picking them to cover!!!! Here's the list ive seen so far... Chris Berman, Bill Simmons, Meril Hoge, Mark Sireath etc... I can't wait till tomorrow!!!!!!!!!

skinsfanthru&thru 01-14-2006 02:17 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
I think the one that pissed me off the most was Jay Mariotti on ATH saying the game shouldn't even be played. Plus if the Skins pull "the upset" again, I can rub it into the face one of my managers who was talking smack today.

wbecker999 01-14-2006 02:22 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
You call them experts

Skinfan184 01-14-2006 02:28 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
I am so sick of that B.S. the seahags do not even understand how to win a playoff game, as opposed to Joe & Co. who wrote the book.

70Chip 01-14-2006 02:34 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
Experts textperts choking smokers...

The title of this thread reminded me of my favorite Rodney Dangerfield joke:

I'll tell ya my sex life is awful... My wife just cut me down to twice a month....


It's okay though... I know a couple of guys she cut off completely...

ba bump bump

bertoskins 01-14-2006 02:55 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
also Mr . Wilborn

huh lets see

IN GIBBS WE TRUST

BigSKINBauer 01-14-2006 03:02 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
Here is MY expert talk.

I crunched some numbers

I looked at some stats and said HELLLZ no this ain't good enough! So i made me own statistics! I said how can the seahags get credit if they played easy teams. BUt my common sence couldn't discredit all of their accomplishments.

I set out to examine the teams they played and looked at the amount of yards their opponents averaged per game on the ground and the amount of yards they got against the seahawks.

I did this for seahags defense against the run, defense against the pass, offense on other run defenses and offense on other pass defenses. I did all the same for the skins.

This should take away the strength of schedule problems as it accounts for the strength of opponents defense and offenses against the run and pass.

Here is what it comes out to be:

If the seahags D was to play an offense that averaged 100 yards on the ground they would give up 93% or 93 yards.
if they were to play an offense that averaged 100 through the air that offense would get 111% or 111 yards

Skins D
If the skins were to play a team that got 100 on the ground that team would get 95% or 95 yards
The skins give up only 91% of the opponent's average through the air.
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Offense
The seahawks run game would get 133% of the total amount of yards the defense they play gives up on the ground. so against a team that limits the other team to 100 yards rushing the seahags would get 133 on them
The seahawks would get only 91% on the passing defense.

The skins offense would get 128% of the run defense of the other team
The skins offense would get ONLY 92% of the Passing offense the other team usually gives up. so when a team plays the skins, on average, they have a better defensive day through the air!!

The skins passing offense sucks. The thing is the seahags passing defense just sucks a little more.
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To recap in other words.

IF the seahags defense was to play a team that got 100 yards on average on the ground on offense they would give up 93 while the skins would give up 95

If the seahags defense was to play a team that got 100 yards on average in the air on offense they would give up 111 while the skins would give up only 91

IF the seahags offense was to play a team gave up 100 yards on average on the ground the Seahags would get an amazing 133 yards and the skins would get 128

IF the seahags offense was to play a team gave up 100 yards on average through the air the seahags would get 105 yards and the skins would get ONLY 92!!!

Luxorreb 01-14-2006 04:52 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
Reality... Seattle is the #1 seed in the NFC with league MVP Shaun Alexander. Washington is the #6 seed in the NFC and had no defensive players selected to the pro bowl.

Truth... Seahawks last 'real' loss was to the Redskins when they played their whole squad the entire game. Seattle did lose to Green Bay, but that was quite the abhorition. Redskins have won 6th str8 tough games against the Gmen, PHILI, Tampa and Dallas. The Washington defense has play makers and wins games for the fans of DC!!!

Redskins win!

offiss 01-14-2006 05:36 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
Other than the first Giant game, and the second cowboy game, I have been dead on, and frankly I still feel that Tampa was a tougher opponent then the Hawk's. I know we have to be a little tired, but I don't know if it's enough to really make a big difference? My biggest concern in this game is this, will Gibbs keep pushing the offense even if we take a lead? Or does he back into a shell and try to hold them off if we get a lead? I hope he learned a little something from last week, and that's even in the playoff's you can't back off with a lead, if you allow a team to gain momentum it's tough to stop them.

I hope he remembers that dropped pass by tampa and realizes that we held on and escaped with a victory, if he catches that ball, we in all liklyhood lose that game, that's what happens when you allow a team to hang around, we made the playoff's through aggresion on offense, we have to continue to attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedskinPete 01-14-2006 06:40 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
[QUOTE=offiss]Other than the first Giant game, and the second cowboy game, I have been dead on, and frankly I still feel that Tampa was a tougher opponent then the Hawk's. I know we have to be a little tired, but I don't know if it's enough to really make a big difference? My biggest concern in this game is this, will Gibbs keep pushing the offense even if we take a lead? Or does he back into a shell and try to hold them off if we get a lead? I hope he learned a little something from last week, and that's even in the playoff's you can't back off with a lead, if you allow a team to gain momentum it's tough to stop them.

I hope he remembers that dropped pass by tampa and realizes that we held on and escaped with a victory, if he catches that ball, we in all liklyhood lose that game, that's what happens when you allow a team to hang around, we made the playoff's through aggresion on offense, we have to continue to attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

I think you are right that the Bucs D is much better then the the Hawks. I can't see the home field being any harder for the Skins then TB. But the O for TB is not what Seattle has! But more important is what O for us will show up? D's win play-off games and Championships!!! If we get on top I see us holding on running out the clock! Maybe Gibbs will kick that O in the ass and say lets get it going. I believe Gibbs knew in his heart and bones that after we got the lead on the Bucs it was going to be a D battle and held back the O!!! Trying to Run the ball to run out the clock. I know he said we tryed everything but he was holding back just look at the game. One thing is for sure Seattle didn't see anything new!!!

offiss 01-14-2006 08:51 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
[QUOTE=RedskinPete]I think you are right that the Bucs D is much better then the the Hawks. I can't see the home field being any harder for the Skins then TB. But the O for TB is not what Seattle has! But more important is what O for us will show up? D's win play-off games and Championships!!! If we get on top I see us holding on running out the clock! Maybe Gibbs will kick that O in the ass and say lets get it going. I believe Gibbs knew in his heart and bones that after we got the lead on the Bucs it was going to be a D battle and held back the O!!! Trying to Run the ball to run out the clock. I know he said we tryed everything but he was holding back just look at the game. One thing is for sure Seattle didn't see anything new!!![/QUOTE]


I kind of went off of what Portis has said this week, and he said we started playing ball control once we got up.

As for the difference in the offenses between Tampa and Seattle, I think Gruden is much more dangerous as a play caller than Holmgrem, yes Seattle has more talent on offense but it's not overwhelming. Couple that with the fact that we should control the ball on offense much better than we did against Tampa, and I believe we win 24-13

htownskinfan 01-14-2006 09:00 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
theisman picked against us too,how's he going against us when he picked us to be in the superbowl?

LongTimeSkinsFan 01-14-2006 09:04 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
I love flying under the radar and being the underdog although none of the response from the media really surprises me. We've never really received credit all year from the media with the exception of a few announcers and now we're essentially being told we're lucky to even be in the playoffs. I don't think it's due to the coaches or players as much as it is the people pulling the strings. IMHO, I think it's the other media moguls hating on Dan Snyder because he's finally got a good thing going and they (other media outlets) can't stand it. Over the past few years, Snyder has built a Redskins media network, through TV and the internet, which almost completely cuts the traditional outlets out of the picture. It's no big secret that Danny has had his share of feuds with the Washington newspapers so I would think it's entirely possible that he's hated on by the big networks as well.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-14-2006 09:37 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
Jay Mariotti is such a loser, he's been too busy plucking his eyebrows to notice that the Redskins are a good team. So who cares what he says?

ParkerGibbs 01-14-2006 09:37 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
The funniest part is that I came to the Warpath just now to start this exact thread. I am curious, does anyone know ANY "anal-yst" that has picked us, outside of the tri-state area? Im just curious, because I cant find a single one. And then on top of that, the ESPN.com poll had every state except for MD and VA favoring the Seafags. I cannot wait to spank these guys!!:spank:

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-14-2006 09:40 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
Nunyo Demasio and Tim Brown.

djnemo65 01-14-2006 10:14 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
[QUOTE=ParkerGibbs]The funniest part is that I came to the Warpath just now to start this exact thread. I am curious, does anyone know ANY "anal-yst" that has picked us, outside of the tri-state area? Im just curious, because I cant find a single one. And then on top of that, the ESPN.com poll had every state except for MD and VA favoring the Seafags. I cannot wait to spank these guys!!:spank:[/QUOTE]

Skip Bayless

SUNRA 01-14-2006 10:50 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" picks Sea to win and COVER 9.5!!!
 
[QUOTE=htownskinfan]theisman picked against us too,how's he going against us when he picked us to be in the superbowl?[/QUOTE]

When the subject of the Redskins hits the surface of Sports Analyst throughout the country all statistics and match-ups go out the window. They have all been wrong for the last six weeks and have lost a lot of money in betting resorting to desperate emotional predictions which proves their ignorance as objective professionals. The Redskins are going to put an ass-whipping on the Seahawks that they will never forget.

redrock-skins 01-14-2006 12:55 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
Mark Rypien picked against us too, though he is rooting for us of course.

We will just have to go earn our respect. While my excitement of a Skins win will be the best feeling should we come out winners today, watching so many "experts" (I've lost count) eat crow will be a very close second.

Bandwagon 01-14-2006 01:01 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
NOT ALL........Mel Florio at ProFootballTalk.com offers the following:

Redskins at Seahawks: Plenty of sphincters will be puckering in the Pacific Northwest as the Seahawks try not to screw up one of the best seasons in franchise history. Beyond that attractive image, here's why the 'Skins will win.

First, the 'Hawks had a very tough time in two home games this year against NFC East teams (Cowboys and Giants) who weren't playing nearly as well as the Redskins are right now. Seattle easily could have (and arguably should have) lost either or both of those games.

Second, the 'Skins already have beaten the Seahawks. Sure, it was in Washington. But the Redskins have gotten a lot better since then, especially on defense. For example, a guy named LaVar Arrington was still eating Alpo from a plastic bowl at the time these two teams last played.

With strong defense (edge to D.C.), a solid running game (slight edge to Seattle), and quarterback experience in the postseason (edge to D.C.) being the three biggest factors in January, the pendulum swings to the 'Skins, 23-16.

redrock-skins 01-14-2006 01:04 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=Bandwagon]NOT ALL........Mel Florio at ProFootballTalk.com offers the following:

Redskins at Seahawks: Plenty of sphincters will be puckering in the Pacific Northwest as the Seahawks try not to screw up one of the best seasons in franchise history. Beyond that attractive image, here's why the 'Skins will win.

First, the 'Hawks had a very tough time in two home games this year against NFC East teams (Cowboys and Giants) who weren't playing nearly as well as the Redskins are right now. Seattle easily could have (and arguably should have) lost either or both of those games.

Second, the 'Skins already have beaten the Seahawks. Sure, it was in Washington. But the Redskins have gotten a lot better since then, especially on defense. For example, a guy named LaVar Arrington was still eating Alpo from a plastic bowl at the time these two teams last played.

With strong defense (edge to D.C.), a solid running game (slight edge to Seattle), and quarterback experience in the postseason (edge to D.C.) being the three biggest factors in January, the pendulum swings to the 'Skins, 23-16.[/QUOTE]

That's cool. At least we got one. Were there any others (not counting any "homers")? We should have a list (I'm sure its very short) of who picked us and give them mad props here later.

dblanch66 01-14-2006 01:12 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
This is a little off topic, but Eli just threw another interception. :laughing-

we own you! 01-14-2006 02:27 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
The "experts" airn't always right. Like at the start of the season they thought the Crads would win the NFC West:laughing2gimmie a break!!!!!!!1

But there spot on here, this will be a blowout. We all know you guy shouldn't even be in the playoffs you just had a cupcake set of games to end the season.
The only question is does [color=black]Alexander[/color] make it to double figures in TD today? I'd say no I think Hasselbeck will hit Jurevicius and Engram for 3 or 4.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-14-2006 02:29 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=we own you!]The "experts" airn't always right. Like at the start of the season they thought the Crads would win the NFC West:laughing2gimmie a break!!!!!!!1

But there spot on here, this will be a blowout. We all know you guy shouldn't even be in the playoffs you just had a cupcake set of games to end the season.
The only question is does [color=black]Alexander[/color] make it to double figures in TD today? I'd say no I think Hasselbeck will hit Jurevicius and Engram for 3 or 4.[/QUOTE]

It's funny that you're talking about our schedule. Maybe you don't realize this, but your team had the weakest schedule in the entire league. Also, I wouldn't call the Cowboys and Giants games "cupcakes." I would call the NFC West the official "Cupcake Division" in the league.

Gmanc711 01-14-2006 02:29 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=we own you!]The "experts" airn't always right. Like at the start of the season they thought the Crads would win the NFC West:laughing2gimmie a break!!!!!!!1

But there spot on here, this will be a blowout. We all know you guy shouldn't even be in the playoffs you just had a cupcake set of games to end the season.
The only question is does [color=black]Alexander[/color] make it to double figures in TD today? I'd say no I think Hasselbeck will hit Jurevicius and Engram for 3 or 4.[/QUOTE]

CUPCAKE SET OF GAMES. Well, we began it agaisnt two teams you played FOUR TIMES!!!! Then beat the NFC East Champion NY Giants, a solid Dallas Cowboys team. Very cupcake....almost as cupcake as your entire schedule, but not quite.


Thats an interesting screen-name you have. Can you tell me, please, when exactly is the last time the Seahawks beat the Redskins? You're 19 and from Seattle, it was 1998, so you probably werent even old enough to wipe your own ass. Who owns who??

LongTimeSkinsFan 01-14-2006 02:30 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=we own you!]The "experts" airn't always right. Like at the start of the season they thought the Crads would win the NFC West:laughing2gimmie a break!!!!!!!1

But there spot on here, this will be a blowout. We all know you guy shouldn't even be in the playoffs you just had a cupcake set of games to end the season.
The only question is does [color=black]Alexander[/color] make it to double figures in TD today? I'd say no I think Hasselbeck will hit Jurevicius and Engram for 3 or 4.[/QUOTE]

Cupcake set of games at the end of the season??? YOU GUYS HAD A CUPCAKE SEASON BY COMPARISON!!!! If the Seahawks had an easier schedule this year, you guys wouldn't played at all. Don't you have a basement to bail out or something?

hooskins 01-14-2006 02:39 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=we own you!]The "experts" airn't always right. Like at the start of the season they thought the Crads would win the NFC West:laughing2gimmie a break!!!!!!!1

But there spot on here, this will be a blowout. We all know you guy shouldn't even be in the playoffs you just had a cupcake set of games to end the season.
The only question is does [color=black]Alexander[/color] make it to double figures in TD today? I'd say no I think Hasselbeck will hit Jurevicius and Engram for 3 or 4.[/QUOTE]

Dude ur entire team in a F**king cupcake. A cupcake season(all easy games, I think you guys had the easiest schedule in the NFL, yea thats right out of 32 teams!!!..ours was the second hardest only to San Diego), a cupcake RB( yea I said it, that stat hog, cry baby, who is afraid of getting hit), a cupcake division(one of the worst division in the NFL this year), and a cupcake coach(yea I said it!, that pussy cant do shit without Brett Farve, and has not won one playoff game). How can you seriously compare your shitty team with us?....

FirstandTen 01-14-2006 02:40 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=we own you!]The "experts" airn't always right. Like at the start of the season they thought the Crads would win the NFC West:laughing2gimmie a break!!!!!!!1

But there spot on here, this will be a blowout. We all know you guy shouldn't even be in the playoffs you just had a cupcake set of games to end the season.
The only question is does [color=black]Alexander[/color] make it to double figures in TD today? I'd say no I think Hasselbeck will hit Jurevicius and Engram for 3 or 4.[/QUOTE]


Ur weak squad is 1-2 vs Playoff teams! You will be having a miserable night get ready.

RFKRat 01-14-2006 02:56 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
4 out of the 6 guys on cbs.sportsline.com picked the Skins.

[url]http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-PRED[/url]

hurrykaine 01-14-2006 03:06 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=RFKRat]4 out of the 6 guys on cbs.sportsline.com picked the Skins.

[url]http://www.cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-PRED[/url][/QUOTE]

Uh...no they didn't. They only picked us to beat the 9 point spread. It says nothing about whether we'll win or not, just that we won't lose by 9 points.

GoSkins! 01-14-2006 04:03 PM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=hurrykaine]Uh...no they didn't. They only picked us to beat the 9 point spread. It says nothing about whether we'll win or not, just that we won't lose by 9 points.[/QUOTE]

I guess that at least it proves the title of the thread wrong:)

GUIDO 01-15-2006 01:57 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
Now What Do You Got To Say? Go Hawks

redrock-skins 01-15-2006 01:58 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=GUIDO]Now What Do You Got To Say? Go Hawks[/QUOTE]

Move on and go troll the Bears or Carolina forum and act like a Philly fan there.

dgack 01-15-2006 01:59 AM

Re: NO RESPECT... All "Experts" pick Seattle to win and cover!
 
[QUOTE=GUIDO]Now What Do You Got To Say? Go Hawks[/QUOTE]

Now What I Got To Say Is Your Hawks Looked Pretty Soft To Me. Thank Your Defense, Because Your Offense Was Running Scared.

PS, Capitalizing Words That Shouldn't Be Capitalized Is Really Retarded!


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