Vanderjagt, a Redskin?
 

Did anyone else see TK and Wilbon talk about Vanderjagt on PTI. Interesting. He may be shopped around, or just cut.

Re: Vanderjagt, a Redskins?
 

screw him

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I thought he was a FA.

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NICK THE KICK AUTOMATIC NOVAK. I want him back. I'd take a vanderjagt and not be upset

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id love to have vanderjagt. sure hes got a bad attitude i think but who cares hes a freakin kicker. that one he missed in the playoffs wont happen again

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Just one thing about Vanderjagt! He's an indoors kicker. 8 games out of the year, he kicks field goals with no wind resistance, no sloppy footing, no bad weather. He might look like a steal, but when you get down to it, how good can he actually be playing the majority of his games outside in the weather? I think he might still be an upgrade, but I just don't know how much of one.

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very good point skins guy, but still he has never shown signs that he cant kick out door and the one he missed was indoor so i dont think that has too much to do with it. But definatly something to consider

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I love Novack as much as anyone but wasn't he having a problem with kicking his field goals to low? If I remember right he got one blocked against Seattle and Denver.

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Doesnt Vandrjagermeister Have A Drinkin Problem?

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I'd take Vanderjagt cuz he is CANADIAN but also I agree with SKINGUY
bout bein' a indoor kicker

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vandy is a bad choice, he refused to do kickoffs cause he didn't feel like it... he a tard.
nick the kick wasn't good either, he kicks low consistantly and has WAY WAY WAY too many blocks for a kicker in the NFL.

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I do agree that kicking indoors is very much an advantage, but Mike Vanderjagt is the most accurate kicker in league history, I believe.

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[QUOTE=SkinsLB5607]I'd take Vanderjagt cuz he is CANADIAN but also I agree with SKINGUY
bout bein' a indoor kicker[/QUOTE]

I would not take vanderjagt for that same reason..haha

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[b][i][u]Ernest Byner anyone?[/u][/i][/b] Remember his fumble. He redeemed himself in a big way wearing burgandy and gold ....

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod]Doesnt Vandrjagermeister Have A Drinkin Problem?[/QUOTE]

LOL, Vanderjagermeister.

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he is a talented kicker but he is also selfish and can disrupt a team

not a Gibbs guy

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no more higher priced kickers.do the homework and draft a good one

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Don't forget that having John Hall is an advantage because we actually have 11 men on the feild during kickoffs.

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[QUOTE=Skins_4_Lyfe]Don't forget that having John Hall is an advantage because we actually have 11 men on the feild during kickoffs.[/QUOTE]
well novak had the game saving tackle against dallas week 2 on that final kick return

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That missed kick is so psychologically damaging, that Vandy will never be the same kicker again. That was one of the worst kicks I have ever seen in such a clutch situation. Scott Norwood, you're offically off the hook.

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He's the TO of kickers...the dudes a moron. DId you hear that after Pitt took there time out, Vander made some gestures to the Pitt sideline, to say "come on I cant be rattled." Look what happend. All we need in Vander in here to talk crap about Gibbs and who ever the Qb is next year. :party-smi

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod]Doesnt Vandrjagermeister Have A Drinkin Problem?[/QUOTE]

Who dont'? :food-smil

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Yeah screw Vanderjagerbomb.
What kicker would talk trash about Peyton Manning?
I don't want that guy on my team. I'll keep John Hall and look for someone with a huge leg for kickoffs. Spending lotsa cash on a Janikowski is useless when we have a very accurate John Hall. Hopefully he'll be 100% by the time we kick off next season!

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[QUOTE=Luxorreb]Yeah screw Vanderjagerbomb.
What kicker would talk trash about Peyton Manning?
I don't want that guy on my team. I'll keep John Hall and look for someone with a huge leg for kickoffs. Spending lotsa cash on a Janikowski is useless when we have a very accurate John Hall. Hopefully he'll be 100% by the time we kick off next season![/QUOTE]

a very accuracte kicker that can't push a ball 45 yards is called worthless in the nfl. AND he's expensive.

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Vanderjagt is a great kicker, but I'd prefer we found a guy late in the draft. It would save some money big time.

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Vandy is a good kicker period, regardless of what surface he kicks on.

This year he was 12/13 on turf and 11/12 on grass.

As some have said, he does't do kickoffs, so that's a problem.

Plus he's an idiot, an even bigger problem.

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Bring Chip Lohmiller out of retirement... I still think ole Chip could kick it into the endzone on a kickoff!

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All things considered when Hall is healthy he is a very good kicker. It comes down to:

Is he healthy and what he is getting paid?

It seems like everybody is ready to let this guy go but are we assured to get a great kicker in return. I remember all too well for years we didn't have a kicker w/ any ability. All i'm saying is let's not jump too quick to get rid of John Hall. He's a pretty good kicker.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]no more higher priced kickers.do the homework and draft a good one[/QUOTE]

absolutely!

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give me novak and a punter to replace frost.
vanderjagt is a liquiored up kicker according to peyton.

i,m with the others give me novak............

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If Hall is injured, then I apologise for the comments I'm about to make. Hall's kickoffs are too shallow. I don't know how many times the other team ended up with great field position after a kick return of a shallow kickoff. Hall has limited range. Gibbs wouldn't even attempt a kick past 50 yards. Lets get a young strong-legged guy out of college. At least he will be able to boom them into the endzone.

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[QUOTE=gortiz][b][i][u]Ernest Byner anyone?[/u][/i][/b] Remember his fumble. He redeemed himself in a big way wearing burgandy and gold ....[/QUOTE]Earnest Byner played for the Browns and fumbled after he played with the Redskins.

Nick the Kick is a pussy and kicks it shorter than John Hall. We need to get Nedney from San Fran, who is a free agent this year, or draft Connor Hughes from Virginia.

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[QUOTE=skindogger47]Earnest Byner played for the Browns and fumbled after he played with the Redskins.
[/QUOTE]


You must've caught the tail end of his career. Byner was the protocol back for a Joe Gibbs' system.

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[QUOTE=skindogger47]Earnest Byner played for the Browns and fumbled after he played with the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

Byner played for the Browns first (84-88), then came to the Skins (89-93), then went back to the Browns (94-95) and finished out with Baltimore (96-97).

His fumble was during his first stint with the brown (either 86 or 87, not sure which).

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VDJ is a free agent. he may be tarnished but he is still one accurate kicker. someone will pick him up

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I think we kick just fine

but are kickOFFS is a way diff story we cant even kick past the thirty

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[QUOTE=jbcjr14]Bring Chip Lohmiller out of retirement... I still think ole Chip could kick it into the endzone on a kickoff![/QUOTE]

Chip was the man. Mosley a close second. It hasn't been the same since they left.

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As much as I'd like to see the kid back in Burgundy and Gold, Novak isn't the answer...he's an Eddie Murray prototype...inside 40 he's clutch, but those beyond 40 are beyond his range.

Tupa will be the punter next season. Frost will definitely get work in the NFL, but it most likely won't be with the Skins.

After looking at the FA Kickers, guys like Vinatieri, Nedney, Josh Brown, Vanderjagt, Edinger, Longwell and Peterson will most likely be resigned with their current teams. Matt Bryant from the Bucs is the only guy in that group I can see being let go, and Hall is better than he is.

I say stick with Hall and Tupa, and move on.

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:coach: i doubt we get him we won't give him enough money probably a team like the texans or another bad team gets him

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:coach: no way he is to expensive for us he will probably go to a very good team or a really