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railcon56 01-26-2006 07:52 PM

HD Projectors??? Help
 
I am gonna buy an HD Projector within a week ....Anyone have one or any suggestions??

ST21 01-26-2006 08:01 PM

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get rear projection....alot better pic

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2006 08:08 PM

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Sony VPL-HS51 is a pretty good value for the quality that it has. Check out consumer reports and you'll get some good info.

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:09 PM

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you dont mean a rear projection TV do you? Hd variety?

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2006 08:10 PM

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Do you mean like a PROJECTOR to broadcast on a wall or screen? Or a projection TV?

The one I posted above is for you to project on a screen.

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:11 PM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Sony VPL-HS51 is a pretty good value for the quality that it has. Check out consumer reports and you'll get some good info.[/QUOTE]
ty i am looking it up now

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:11 PM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Do you mean like a PROJECTOR to broadcast on a wall or screen? Or a projection TV?

The one I posted above is for you to project on a screen.[/QUOTE]
Wall or screen .... like 125 inches

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2006 08:11 PM

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Anyone reading this turn it to the Travel Channel now! Who is that freakin' hottie that's on there?!?! Fine as HELL.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2006 08:12 PM

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You should get a contrast control screen if you're planning on putting this into a well-lit room.

Don't take me as an authority on this, because I don't own one, HOWEVER I've been researching them for months.

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:18 PM

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I like that projector........ i am looking at a high contrast screen .... can u watch in the daytime with yours?

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:18 PM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]You should get a contrast control screen if you're planning on putting this into a well-lit room.

Don't take me as an authority on this, because I don't own one, HOWEVER I've been researching them for months.[/QUOTE]
i have been loking at them...have u decided on this one?

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2006 08:19 PM

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Like I said I don't have one, but the high contrast screen does allow you to watch in the daytime. The house I HOPEFULLY buy is too well-lit for a white screen.

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:22 PM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Like I said I don't have one, but the high contrast screen does allow you to watch in the daytime. The house I HOPEFULLY buy is too well-lit for a white screen.[/QUOTE]
[url="http://www.bigscreencenter.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PDALadvantagemanCSR"]http://www.bigscreencenter.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PDALadvantagemanCSR[/url]

check this screen out i am looking at the high power option with 119"

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:23 PM

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what other projectors are you leaning towards ...I like this one tho

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2006 08:27 PM

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I'm leaning towards the sony and would love to save up for the Optoma HD72.

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:32 PM

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where do you go for your projector reviews i have been looking at Projectorcentral.com

TheMalcolmConnection 01-26-2006 08:36 PM

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[url]http://www.consumersearch.com/www/electronics/projectors/[/url]

railcon56 01-26-2006 08:37 PM

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i found that H72 for $1999
[url]http://www.projectorpoint.com/product.php?id=28342[/url]

That Guy 01-26-2006 10:58 PM

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if you use a scsreen, black is better... most sony's use black screens now anyways.

onlydarksets 01-27-2006 08:05 AM

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Projector Central is good, but check AVS Forum to get started:
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=68"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=68[/url]

You'll be able to see what the top 2-3 options are, and then start from there. If you are in the DC area, check out ritzav.com. They have a showroom in MD and can show you several side-by-side. A couple of caveats, though, are that you need to have a short list before you go in there, and don't let them show you something out of your price range.

I had a Panny 75u for a while (84" screen) but got rid of it when we moved in favor of a 50" DLP rear projection. Now, of course, I'm ready to switch it out again.

That Guy 01-27-2006 10:03 AM

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avsforum is a really good site. I'd also recommend using it.

railcon56 01-27-2006 01:51 PM

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Ty ALL

railcon56 01-27-2006 01:55 PM

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Would anyone buy an newer generation LCD or just DLP?

railcon56 01-27-2006 05:04 PM

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]Projector Central is good, but check AVS Forum to get started:
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=68"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=68[/url]

You'll be able to see what the top 2-3 options are, and then start from there. If you are in the DC area, check out ritzav.com. They have a showroom in MD and can show you several side-by-side. A couple of caveats, though, are that you need to have a short list before you go in there, and don't let them show you something out of your price range.

I had a Panny 75u for a while (84" screen) but got rid of it when we moved in favor of a 50" DLP rear projection. Now, of course, I'm ready to switch it out again.[/QUOTE]
Which one are you looking at now?

railcon56 01-27-2006 05:11 PM

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ok i have them narrowed down to these.... i really want the Optoma HD72 but it's not due out til mid Feb.... So I am left chosing between these Sony VPL-HS51, SharpVision DT-100, Sanyo PLV-Z4 and Panasonic PT-AE900U.
Any comments?

onlydarksets 01-27-2006 06:18 PM

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]Which one are you looking at now?[/QUOTE]

42" or 50" plasma. The DLP, although slim, is too deep for the room. With the price drop in plasmas over the past year, it's time to take the plunge!

onlydarksets 01-27-2006 06:24 PM

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]ok i have them narrowed down to these.... i really want the Optoma HD72 but it's not due out til mid Feb.... So I am left chosing between these Sony VPL-HS51, SharpVision DT-100, Sanyo PLV-Z4 and Panasonic PT-AE900U.
Any comments?[/QUOTE]

You have quite a mixture of LCD and DLP projectors there. Do you see DLP rainbows? Is black level extremely important to you? How about pixel fill (a/k/a screen door effect)? Different technologies have different benefits, so it may help to pick a technology first.

railcon56 01-27-2006 07:44 PM

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The panasonic has been eliminated for poor service...... any thoughts on LCD vs DLP anyone?

onlydarksets 01-28-2006 11:17 AM

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I like the deep blacks on my DLP, but I see the rainbows so it's a bit annoying. The technologies are getting closer, so (and I hate it when people say this) a lot of it just comes down to personal preference.

railcon56 01-28-2006 11:21 AM

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]I like the deep blacks on my DLP, but I see the rainbows so it's a bit annoying. The technologies are getting closer, so (and I hate it when people say this) a lot of it just comes down to personal preference.[/QUOTE]
i have been reading about the rainbows .........i am trying to figure out exactley what that is....

onlydarksets 01-28-2006 11:29 AM

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]i have been reading about the rainbows .........i am trying to figure out exactley what that is....[/QUOTE]

When you scan across a DLP image, some people see little flashes of the color spectrum. It's a result of the way DLP works. It uses a color wheel spinning in front of a light reflected off a mirror, which causes a kind of latency that some people's eyes are sensitive to. Go to Circuit City or whatever, find a DLP, stand in front of it, and scan your eyes from left to right across the screen at various speeds as a video is playing (and try to ignore the strange looks people are giving you).

DLP technology is improving, which has reduced the problem somewhat. However, it's still there. Check out this thread:
[url="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=491872&highlight=rainbow+effect"]http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=491872&highlight=rainbow+effect[/url]

railcon56 01-28-2006 11:38 AM

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ok I have seen examples of rainbows.....yeah that seems like it could be a problem.... i am thinking in that $ 2000 - 3000 price range all dlp's would have the rainbow effect...... i am kinda sensitive to visual things like that...... I may have to look at LCD's but then Do the deep blacks make the picture any better?

railcon56 01-29-2006 01:37 PM

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i have to down to these 2 -Sanyo PLV-Z4 and Panasonic PT-AE900U has and outside chance but maybe only 10% would be more if the panansonic service was better........

onlydarksets 01-29-2006 07:15 PM

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]ok I have seen examples of rainbows.....yeah that seems like it could be a problem.... i am thinking in that $ 2000 - 3000 price range all dlp's would have the rainbow effect...... i am kinda sensitive to visual things like that...... I may have to look at LCD's but then Do the deep blacks make the picture any better?[/QUOTE]

It can make a difference in movies with dark scenes (e.g., night scenes), because the LCD can't create "true" black (i.e. absence of light) because of the way the panel is illuminated. DLP does a better job, because it can "turn off" the mirror that reflects light for a given pixel, which creates a darker black. CRT is hands down the best for black level, but you obviously make some size sacrifices with CRT.

onlydarksets 01-29-2006 07:18 PM

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[QUOTE=railcon56@comcast.net]i have to down to these 2 -Sanyo PLV-Z4 and Panasonic PT-AE900U has and outside chance but maybe only 10% would be more if the panansonic service was better........[/QUOTE]

I don't understand what you mean by 10%. My Panny 75u was classified as a business product (as opposed to consumer product), so I got a great warranty. I have heard that the consumer electronics service ain't all that great. I don't know anything about Sanyo service.

railcon56 01-30-2006 02:37 AM

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]I don't understand what you mean by 10%. My Panny 75u was classified as a business product (as opposed to consumer product), so I got a great warranty. I have heard that the consumer electronics service ain't all that great. I don't know anything about Sanyo service.[/QUOTE]
Well I meant I had basically decided on the sanyo...but not totally ruled out the Panny...... I think it would be dead even if the panny didn't have customer service problems that could be the winner tho..... Oh btw that AVS site is awesome....ty

railcon56 01-30-2006 02:39 AM

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Ok so I assume you watch football in HD with the projector ...how do you rate it compared to a crt or even lcd...

onlydarksets 01-30-2006 12:06 PM

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I did before I got rid of it. Watching a game in HD on a 7-foot screen (or 10-foot screen) is incredible. Our new house didn't have the right room for it (no ambient light control), so we went with a RPTV (the DLP). Still, games in HD are awesome. Even on a 30" LCD, it blows away anything I had seen before HDTV came around.

onlydarksets 01-30-2006 12:09 PM

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I should mention, you won't see as much of a difference between LCD/DLP/CRT RPTVs for sports as you will for movies, etc., because black level and contrast aren't as big of issues. The colors are usually so bright that the differences are minimized. I can't tell a meaningful difference between them, anyway!

railcon56 01-31-2006 07:29 PM

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]I should mention, you won't see as much of a difference between LCD/DLP/CRT RPTVs for sports as you will for movies, etc., because black level and contrast aren't as big of issues. The colors are usually so bright that the differences are minimized. I can't tell a meaningful difference between them, anyway![/QUOTE]
I can't thank you enough for all this..............


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