Top 5 Free Agent Signings / Bust By The Redskins All Time
 

Top 5 Best Signings.
1.Marcus Washington = Pro bowl player last season, Should have been this season.
2. Ken Harvey = I belive he went to 4 pro bowls. Last Redskin to lead NFL in sacks. Made the NFL all 90's team.
3. Henry Ellard = Surprised everyone. Thought to be washed up, He put up big numbers.
4. Terry Allen = Put up big numbers on bad teams. Same as Ellard.
5. L.Centers = A threat as recevier playing fullback. Shouls have not been released.

Top 5 bad signings.
1. D. Stubbledfield = Defensive player of the year, Then we sign him. Did NOTHING for this team but still money.
2. D.Sanders = Washed up, Got big money, only here for 1 season.
3. A.Harper = A bust for the Skins and Bucs.
4. J.Trotter = Makes pro bowl with Eagle, Signs with the Skins, Does nothing. Signs with Eagles and goes back to pro bowl.
5. J.Goerge = Goes without saying.

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I'd also have to put Ernst Byner on the BEST LIST over your bottom 3...he was consistent for us for the most of the time he was here and helped us win a SB and is now back coaching for us.

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I would add Cornilus Griffin to the Best List also, he should have ben a pro-bowler last year, and if he would have stayed healthy for this season I believe that he could have ben a pro-bowler for us this year also...

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I would have to give Griffin one more year to put him in the top 5.

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deion has to be the biggest bust,because along with deion came all the hype.i would also have to add bruce smith to the bust list.did nothing in dc but hang on just to get the sack record.other busts stanley richards,

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dont forget about George??????????????

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I think Sellers has to go on the top 5 list - he's clutch!

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Stanley Richard had to be the biggest of them all, he did absolutley nothing with the Chargers and for the life of me I can't see what they saw in him. Runner up for me was James Washington from the Cowboys. Another POS.

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MY TOP 5

1 John Riggins
2 Ken Harvey
3 Larry Centers
4 Ernest Byner
5 by default, Marcus Washington / but needs more years

BOTTOM 5

1 Dana Stubafield
2 Dieon Sanders
3 James Washington
4 Dan Wilkinson
5 Mike Barrow

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If we're talking about free agents, Byner can't be on the list, he was aquired through a trade.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]If we're talking about free agents, Byner can't be on the list, he was aquired through a trade.[/QUOTE]

did not know that, thought we signed him.

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If we want to talk about the best trades the Skins have made, Byner would be very close to the top of the list. He was traded for the legendary Mike Oliphant. I think the Browns are still smarting over that genius of a deal.

[quote]Despite being primarily remembered for "The Fumble," Byner actually went on to have an extremely successful career after the 1987 season when it happened. After spending another year with the Browns, he was traded to the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins"][color=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/color][/url] prior to the start of 1989 season, for running back [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mike_Oliphant&action=edit"][color=#0000ff]Mike Oliphant[/color][/url]. In his 5 seasons with Washington, Byner was selected to play in the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl"][color=#0000ff]Pro Bowl[/color][/url] twice (1990, 1991) and won a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl"][color=#0000ff]Super Bowl[/color][/url] ring with the team in in the 1991 season. In that season's Super Bowl XXVI, in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992"][color=#0000ff]1992[/color][/url], he caught a touchdown pass in the first quarter, and the Redskins won, giving him the World Championship he could not win with the Browns.[/quote]

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]MY TOP 5

BOTTOM 5

1 Dana Stubafield
2 Dieon Sanders
3 James Washington
4 Dan Wilkinson
5 Mike Barrow[/QUOTE]

I don't know if I would add Dan Wilkinson to that list. While he wasn't the player we expected, he didn't exactly live up to expectations in Cincinnati, either. So I'm not sure what we as fans were hoping for in Washington. That said, he wasn't a complete bust, and he wound up staying for several seasons as a solid, if unspectacular contributor. He wasn't a superstar, but if you remember our run-stopping abilities in the 1997 season, it was certainly an improvement. I can think of other free agent busts who were worse ...

Remember Al Noga? Donovan Greer? Jacquez Green?

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Wilkenson was traded for. As for trades, The 2 1st round picks we got for sean gilbert from the panthers worked out well.

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I think a top 5 list needs to include Joe Jacoby

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1 John Riggins
2 Joe Jacoby
3 Wilbru Marshall
4 Neil Olkewitz
5 by default, Marcus Washington / but needs more years
6. Joe Thiesman (Signed him out of CFL but had to gain rights thru trade with Miami)

BOTTOM 5

1 Stanley Richard
2 Deon Sanders
3 James Washington
4 Bruce Smith
5 Mike Barrow
6 Duane Thomas

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A straight up trade for Mike Oliphant if I remember rightly. I think we got slightly the better of that trade. :laughing2

Is it just me?

There were no replies after Matty's post about Byner when I replied but now there are 4. :insane:

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SHAWN SPRINGS man!!! The guy led our team in interceptions and sacks last season! Further, he has proven to be a tough, phyisical, shut-down corner. When he came here there were a lot of question marks about this guy, but he has definitely provided the answers with his superior, pro-bowl quality play.

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A guy that didn't stick around long but was a force on the D-line and made plays in the back field was Daryl Gardener. Why did we let him go?

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[QUOTE=Skins_4_Lyfe]A guy that didn't stick around long but was a force on the D-line and made plays in the back field was Daryl Gardener. Why did we let him go?[/QUOTE]

As I recall he only signed a one-year contract with us, then wanted a long-term deal for more than the front office thought he was worth.

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[QUOTE=Skins_4_Lyfe]A guy that didn't stick around long but was a force on the D-line and made plays in the back field was Daryl Gardener. Why did we let him go?[/QUOTE]

He had attitude issues, in a nutshell.

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Gardner also had a back problem. I think he road the bench in denver the following year.

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[QUOTE=Skins_4_Lyfe]A guy that didn't stick around long but was a force on the D-line and made plays in the back field was Daryl Gardener. Why did we let him go?[/QUOTE]

he was injury prone, the broncos signed him and he ended up being benched and insulting the coaching staff etc daily in the media there.

while he was here i think 5 games into the season he said he was looking foward to next year i think (Was that him?).

the skins got one great year out of him, but he was in no way worth the risk of a long term deal.

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Lets not forget Mark Carrier. He came the same year as Deion and I knew we were in for a long season. Hell Sanders was damaged goods from the start and was way past his prime. Carrier was just not there!

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lmao stupid jeremiah trotter

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dont forget about terry allen coming off both knees having surgery. did the job for us when no one took a chance on him.

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[QUOTE=Kaybee_7]lmao stupid jeremiah trotter[/QUOTE]


Speaking of F/A busts, don't forget Carl Banks, Al Noga, and Leonard Marshall.

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan]Speaking of F/A busts, don't forget Carl Banks, Al Noga, and Leonard Marshall.[/QUOTE]

Carl Banks and Leonard Marshall were done long before they came to the Skins. Al Noga ... I remember when Ritchie Petitbon was asked why they let Fred Stokes go. He said something like, 'Fred wanted more money, so we signed somebody better.' That somebody was Al Noga.

Oh boy, what a doosie he was.

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A fwe great FA's that are not so far listed:
Jim Lachey
Ricky Sanders
Wilber Marshall
Jeff Bostic
Jumpy Geathers
Kelvin Bryant

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[QUOTE=Defensewins]A fwe great FA's that are not so far listed:
Jim Lachey
Ricky Sanders
Wilber Marshall
Jeff Bostic
Jumpy Geathers
Kelvin Bryant[/QUOTE]

Didn't we trade for Lachey? Wasn't he the Jay Schroeder to the Raiders deal? As long as we're talking free agents from the USFL (Sanders, Bryant) we need to mention Gary Clark.

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1. Reggie Roby (best ever...)
2. WIlber Marshall
3. Henry Ellard
4. Chris Dishman ( came in and made the probowl with green. its rare to have two corners in the probowl tthe same year. )
5. Here are a couple of names that might not have been FA pickups
D. WIlliams(hey, he was magical for one day and what a day it was)
Chip Lohmiller(not sure if he was drafted or not)
Gerald Riggs(monster in the redzone)



the worst:
James washington
Trotter
Deion
Alvin Harper
ok i cant think of anyone else so i will say chad morton.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Didn't we trade for Lachey? Wasn't he the Jay Schroeder to the Raiders deal? As long as we're talking free agents from the USFL (Sanders, Bryant) we need to mention Gary Clark.[/QUOTE]

Yeah we got Lachey in a trade for Schroeder

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[QUOTE=jamf]1. Reggie Roby (best ever...)
2. WIlber Marshall
3. Henry Ellard
4. Chris Dishman ( came in and made the probowl with green. its rare to have two corners in the probowl tthe same year. )
5. Here are a couple of names that might not have been FA pickups
D. WIlliams(hey, he was magical for one day and what a day it was)
Chip Lohmiller(not sure if he was drafted or not)
Gerald Riggs(monster in the redzone)



the worst:
James washington
Trotter
Deion
Alvin Harper
ok i cant think of anyone else so i will say chad morton.[/QUOTE]

Chip was drafted

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Cris Dishman? The guy's talent straight up disappeared after one year here. He went from borderline pro bowler to barely making the team in one off season it seemed. They almost cut him in his second year.

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borderline probowler? He made the probowl... he was borderline his second year and the 3rd he sucked, but thats when we got bailey.

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Dishman had a great year in '97 but he was horrible in '98 and gone after that.

I remember how weird it was, he really went in the tank in '98.

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[QUOTE=jamf]borderline probowler? He made the probowl... he was borderline his second year and the 3rd he sucked, but thats when we got bailey.[/QUOTE]
He shouldn't have made the bowl that year. He made it on previous rep mostly. Matty's right. His second year even during pre-season everyone talked about how bad he had gotten. It was like he had been on the juice or something and then stopped and couldn't do anything. Just all of a sudden. Weird. Never seen an athlete do that before or since.

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Dishman, incidentally, is now a coach in [URL=http://www.nfleurope.com/teams/story/BER/8548266]NFL Europe[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Dishman had a great year in '97 but he was horrible in '98 and gone after that.

I remember how weird it was, he really went in the tank in '98.[/QUOTE]

The guy was really playing on his last leg when he was here. I remember seeing a special on FOX with Dishman and Darrell Green. The old man had grays all over what little hair he had left. He was really a stop-gap measure. I don't think anyone expected him to be a long term solution.