Sean Taylor?
 

Hopefully everything works out and he will be able to go in '06, but what do you is the skins backup plan? Does anyone know who will be available @ safety?

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Hopefully our backups are capable of taking over until we would be able to draft someone else.

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Adam Archuleta, Cory Chavarous ~ among others. I was saying earlier take one of them to work beside Taylor, but they can also be a backup plan if he gets locked up

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considering the state of our cap would we will be able to sign one of those guys? If we could and he was a free agent I would love to sign Lawyer Milloy.

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I don't think there's much chance that Taylor will miss the season, so I'm not even worried about it.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]I don't think there's much chance that Taylor will miss the season, so I'm not even worried about it.[/QUOTE]

I like your optimism. I have to admit I'm a wee bit nervous.

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I don't think either he will miss any time he'll just settle with the kids give them 100 grand each and trouble over that all this kids whant some money if it where so nobody they would had pressed chrages they'll be happy they survived.

But because he has some dough they whant to take something away its just 2 scare him off don't worry it will only hurth him in the pockets and hey next year he will sign a new multi-year deal so it won't hurth at all.

Unless--------- those kids are, Cowboys or NY or Philly rabbid fans if that's it GUYS YOU'RE SCREWED

:towel: :laughing2

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milloy has to be over 35 now...

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]I don't think either he will miss any time he'll just settle with the kids give them 100 grand each and trouble over that all this kids whant some money if it where so nobody they would had pressed chrages they'll be happy they survived.

But because he has some dough they whant to take something away its just 2 scare him off don't worry it will only hurth him in the pockets and hey next year he will sign a new multi-year deal so it won't hurth at all.

Unless--------- those kids are, Cowboys or NY or Philly rabbid fans if that's it GUYS YOU'RE SCREWED

:towel: :laughing2[/QUOTE]They are not sueing him the DA has pressed 3 charges against him so right now money is not the issue. Taylor will either be a skins playing next year or he will be gone for good. I don't see any other way around it unless they take some kind of plea deal but that option may be gone. I feel if he is convicted on one he will be convicted on all three accounts.

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yeah but he can persued the 3 people to remove the charges that way the DA can't do shit don't you remmember the first MJ case where he settle with the kid that pressed charges and the DA was left with nothing.

This is the same thing the DA has a case but if Taylor come to a deal with the 3 guys is over

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i am nervous about taylors status for next season. if he gets out of it and can get his act together, awesome. that is what i hope for. but i also dont want any criminals and stupid stereotypical overpaid children playing on my redskins football team. i think we should act like he isnt going to be there so that if he does come back he will have to take it seriously, act right, practice right, and have some serious competition for his job to make sure he respects our washington redskins and the opportunity he has.

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sorry for the double post

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whats the old saying,money talks.... no way taylor does any jail time.

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It isn't about replacing Taylor - there aren't many safeties of his caliber in the league, much less available in free agency.

Safety happens to be a position where we have a lot of depth. If we don't have Taylor we'll be OK, the position just won't be the strength it is now.

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ya, i think if ST leaves itll take that intimidation factor outta our defense, besides him who has at least one big hit a game?....and i mean BIG hit......i think honestly he will get convicted b.c its not the people pressing charges anymore the state is prosecuting him.....its outta the hands of those guys pressing charges......its the state......he broke a federal law for godsakes, if it was anyone else, i would say screw him hes an idiot thug....but since its ST its not the same.....

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[QUOTE=jswalker]sorry for the double post[/QUOTE]:welcome: :grouphug: :rofl: :welcome: :pimp: :laughing- :smashfrea :laughing2 :point: :headbange :drink :boxing: :welcome: :grouphug: :rofl: :boxing: :bdh: :drink :towel: :lol: :food-smil :headbange :biggthump :Flush: :laughing2 :point: :headbange :point: :woot: :party-smi :Flush: :biggthump :point: :thumb: :cool: :drink :bdh: :boxing: :grouphug: :welcome: :pimp: :laughing- :woot: :smashfrea :point: :headbange :food-smil :towel: :food-smil :biggthump :Flush: :party-smi :woot: :benched: :cheeky-sm :welcome: :drink :welcome:

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when is the trial date?

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[QUOTE=jswalker]sorry for the double post[/QUOTE]

Welcome JS!

All here realize you are simply adding to your Post total!

And we need the answer to Question #3, and your Choice of pie before we allow you to continue!



About Lawyer Malloy, isn't he with the Law firm, Hardcourt, Bench, Gavel and Malloy? And is his firm any good?

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[QUOTE=backrow]Welcome JS!
All here realize you are simply adding to your Post total![/QUOTE]
:lol: thanks to your post-padding, you and mattyk72 combined now total nearly 12,000 posts.

[quote=D'BOYZ]
I don't think either he will miss any time he'll just settle with the kids give them 100 grand each and trouble over that all this kids whant some money if it where so nobody they would had pressed chrages they'll be happy they survived.
But because he has some dough they whant to take something away its just 2 scare him off don't worry it will only hurth him in the pockets and hey next year he will sign a new multi-year deal so it won't hurth at all.

Unless--------- those kids are, Cowboys or NY or Philly rabbid fans if that's it GUYS YOU'RE SCREWED[/quote]

Good post D'boyz - while firstdown is right that the DA could move forward without the help of the victims, it's unlikely he would do so in an assault case like this. ST probably can cut a check and walk away from the whole mess.

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[QUOTE=jordanz301]ya, i think if ST leaves itll take that intimidation factor outta our defense, besides him who has at least one big hit a game?....and i mean BIG hit......i think honestly he will get convicted b.c its not the people pressing charges anymore the state is prosecuting him.....its outta the hands of those guys pressing charges......its the state......he broke a federal law for godsakes, if it was anyone else, i would say screw him hes an idiot thug....but since its ST its not the same.....[/QUOTE]

Actually, Ryan Clark had a couple of big hits last year, as did Ade Jimoh. But if you're talking the intimidation factor - yeah, Taylor brings the heat 24/7!

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]I don't think there's much chance that Taylor will miss the season, so I'm not even worried about it.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

But then again if the fix is in and the NFL wants him in jail, they might pay off the judge to have the book tossed at Taylor.

:laughing2

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]I don't think either he will miss any time he'll just settle with the kids give them 100 grand each and trouble over that all this kids whant some money if it where so nobody they would had pressed chrages they'll be happy they survived.

But because he has some dough they whant to take something away its just 2 scare him off don't worry it will only hurth him in the pockets and hey next year he will sign a new multi-year deal so it won't hurth at all.

Unless--------- those kids are, Cowboys or NY or Philly rabbid fans if that's it GUYS YOU'RE SCREWED

:towel: :laughing2[/QUOTE]

I dont think its going to be that easy. It not that the people can't drop the charges, the state of Florida files charges, this is a felony not misdomenor charges. HE can pay the people off all he wants, but its not stopping Florida from going after him.

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56Fanatic -- When the state doesn't have any witnesses willing to testify (because they settle out of court with Taylor) then it makes it really hard to convict him. Hell, from the evidence I've heard they had, Taylor will be sitting there laughing.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]56Fanatic -- When the state doesn't have any witnesses willing to testify (because they settle out of court with Taylor) then it makes it really hard to convict him. Hell, from the evidence I've heard they had, Taylor will be sitting there laughing.[/QUOTE]

exactly the State can still persecute but without witnesses their case goes to the toilet just like it happend with M.jackson in 93 so don't worry he won't see no jail time.

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I have a question and it may have already been brought up. But here goes. What if Sean goes to jail? What would happen to Washington with the cap and everything? Would it just free up some room or what?

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$5.00 says he is guilty of the crime; $5.50 says he won't do any time at all. We'll see ST next year playing as a SKIN in XLI.

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Roanoke, VA eh? I believe I'll be seeing you down there next year to watch Skins games at the new Wild Wings in Valley View.

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You find me with a group of guys singing "HTTR!" off-key two or three times throughout the game along with arguing over best 'Skins player ever, complaining about Art Monk's HOF denial, making jokes regarding the demise of other teams personnel at the hands of ST and LA. See you there!

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Yeah, I love Wild Wings (especially since my fiance moved from Blacksburg back to Lexington and I don't have a reason to go anymore). I got booted from the Blacksburg one during the Seattle game because I got up in some guys face who was just being a dick. The one they got is pretty nice for being in a mall. I was skeptical how it would turn out.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]I like your optimism. I have to admit I'm a wee bit nervous.[/QUOTE]

I spoke with Marcus Washington at a luncheon. And he confirmed to me that Sean Taylor wont miss any time and will be ready for next season. So no need to worry about our most talented player.

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[QUOTE=heybigstar]I spoke with Marcus Washington at a luncheon. And he confirmed to me that Sean Taylor wont miss any time and will be ready for next season. So no need to worry about our most talented player.[/QUOTE]

I certainly hope Marcus is right.

Did he have any other sentiments about the direction of the team overall?

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]yeah but he can persued the 3 people to remove the charges that way the DA can't do shit don't you remmember the first MJ case where he settle with the kid that pressed charges and the DA was left with nothing.

This is the same thing the DA has a case but if Taylor come to a deal with the 3 guys is over[/QUOTE]The three people did not press the charges they are whitnesses. He cannot pay them off not to testify that is another crime in its self. Now if he is or is not convicted they may choose to sue him and in that case he could settle out of court. That was the case in the first mj case he was being sued by the other party and th DA was not involved.

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[QUOTE=12thMan]I certainly hope Marcus is right.

Did he have any other sentiments about the direction of the team overall?[/QUOTE]

Shawn Springs was there as well. And they both are very eager to get back working. They both made a speech as well, and Shawn talked about how happy he is to be a Redskin, and that he expects us to be more successful next year, with the great core of players we have.

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[QUOTE=firstdown]The three people did not press the charges they are whitnesses. He cannot pay them off not to testify that is another crime in its self. Now if he is or is not convicted they may choose to sue him and in that case he could settle out of court. That was the case in the first mj case he was being sued by the other party and th DA was not involved.[/QUOTE]

Not knowing a tremendous amount about the inner workings of the case, that does sound a lot closer to the truth than all the optimistic posts floating around. I'm not sure if he will or will not be convicted, but if he is I know there is mandatory jail time because this is a gun crime. I don't think this is just a small thing . . . this is a huge deal and as you mention it is a felony, a gun crime, bascially big trouble. I hope if works out (and that ST doesn't make any more of these horrible decisions). Beyond that, doesn't it seem like the legal system has some really crazy sentencing poliices?

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[QUOTE=firstdown]The three people did not press the charges they are whitnesses. He cannot pay them off not to testify that is another crime in its self. Now if he is or is not convicted they may choose to sue him and in that case he could settle out of court. That was the case in the first mj case he was being sued by the other party and th DA was not involved.[/QUOTE]

If the police weren't present when the incident occurred (i.e., the police didn't witness it), then the 3 guys had to press charges by filing a report of some kind. If so, they are free to withdraw it, I believe.
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I think, though, that at a certain point the DA can take the case forward without the cooperation of the victims. I'm not a criminal lawyer, though, so I can't comment on how that works. As far as I know, there is nothing stopping ST from entering into settlement talks to foreclose civil liability prior to the criminal trial. My guess is that it doesn't happen often because defendants don't want to admit anything until the criminal case is over.

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i think it is possible to go foward with the case without the victims approval, but with no cop witnesses and no victim testimony would make things hard...

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What I thought happened is that the DA took statements from the three so called victims and then pressed charges and then they just changed them to three counts. If the three made charges originaly I would think that the intial charge would of been three counts. I'm not a lawyer so I'm just rambling on.

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I'm not sure where you guys are getting some of this stuff, but the charges have been brought by the DA, not by the individuals involved in the incident. Any settlement with the alleged victims can only settle the victims' potential civil claims against ST. Such settlement would have absolutely no effect on the criminal case. The DA will still be able to proceed and will subpoena the testimony of the victims for trial. At that time, the victims must testify or face obstruction of justice and/or contempt charges. Furthermore, if any of their testimony differs from the statements they have already given, they run the risk of being convicted for perjury. Money may get ST a good lawyer, but he can't buy the testimony of the witnesses/victims.

Furthermore, if convicted of what he has been charged with, he is going to jail for a mandatory minimum of 3 years for each count. That's not discretionary regardless of his status as a superstar NFL player. The judge wouldn't be able to sentence him to less than 3 years for each count even if he wanted to.

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Wow then you must pray your judge is a redskins Fan cause you're pretty much screwed

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[QUOTE=D'BOYZ]I don't think either he will miss any time he'll just settle with the kids give them 100 grand each and trouble over that all this kids whant some money if it where so nobody they would had pressed chrages they'll be happy they survived.

But because he has some dough they whant to take something away its just 2 scare him off don't worry it will only hurth him in the pockets and hey next year he will sign a new multi-year deal so it won't hurth at all.

Unless--------- those kids are, Cowboys or NY or Philly rabbid fans if that's it GUYS YOU'RE SCREWED

:towel: :laughing2[/QUOTE]

Does anyone else see the irony of a Cowgirl fan talking about a players' legal situation???

How is your boy Nate Newton doing, Chief?