Abraham
 

[b]Jets | Abraham wants out[/b]
Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:04:01 -0800

Rich Cimini, of the New York Daily News, reports <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl">[color=#0000ff]New York Jets[/color] DE [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1322/nfl"][color=#0000ff]John Abraham[/color][/url], confused by the direction of the organization and upset that it seemingly doesn't consider him part of the long-term plan, has told friends that he wants to play elsewhere. "He wants to get the hell out of New York," a person close to Abraham said Tuesday, Feb. 14. "He's pretty upset." The [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Jets[/color][/url] have until Feb. 23 to decide whether to use the franchise tag on Abraham for the second straight year. The thought is the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Jets[/color][/url] will use the tag for the purpose of trading him, but there are serious salary cap implications that might force the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Jets[/color][/url] to simply let him hit the open market.

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i hope he hits the open market and we don't have to trade for him. That way getting him wouldn't cost us a player, unless it was Ramsey, then i wouldn't really care.

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I heard that was the plan Ramsey for Abraham straight up

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[QUOTE=mooby]i hope he hits the open market and we don't have to trade for him. That way getting him wouldn't cost us a player, unless it was Ramsey, then i wouldn't really care.[/QUOTE]


only problem being that onthe free market there will be bidding. with a trade the salary parameters are usually worked out before.

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They need a new CBA before any blockbuster deals. Plus, how the heck could we afford Abraham?

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he wants more than we can afford. he's the guy that said "let the bidding begin" remember ;) He could help, but he whines to the media about every little problem he has and really does want tons and tons of cash.

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If he wants big money let him go, if he wants a ring bring him to DC!!!
Simple equation these days, thank the lord!

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i want abrahams on this team but at the right price.no more high priced guys that screw up our cap situation.if its not a trade,forget it

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what about abraham for arrington?

we would have to sign to a long contract with a huge bonus which could cause future cap hell.

I would like to see this trade only if arrington decides he doesn't want to be here. Arrington's current contract would work for the Jets this year but both teams should worry about getting under the cap before making any big deals.

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The NY stations believe Abraham will be released the Jets don't want to incur any possible salary cap implications that may incur with franchising him.

I seriously doubt he will ever be a Skin, he's more of a money guy, than a win guy.

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[QUOTE=offiss]The NY stations believe Abraham will be released the Jets don't want to incur any possible salary cap implications that may incur with franchising him.

I seriously doubt he will ever be a Skin, he's more of a money guy, than a win guy.[/QUOTE]


beware, another javon kearse... a lot of money for ?? production and injury prone as well

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[QUOTE=81forHOF]what about abraham for arrington?

we would have to sign to a long contract with a huge bonus which could cause future cap hell.

I would like to see this trade only if arrington decides he doesn't want to be here. Arrington's current contract would work for the Jets this year but both teams should worry about getting under the cap before making any big deals.[/QUOTE]

no way, arrington's contract is a cap nightmare and JA's will be as well. being 30mill over the cap and taking a huge dead money hit just to bring another huge contract to the team is a complete no go.

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Looks like the Jets franchised Abraham earlier today, which could still mean they have a trade strategy in mind. It just won't be with the Redskins.

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ya o well, i think we could pick up some1 better in the draft

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not talent wise.

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well now he has been frabchised so if someone makes him and offer and the jets dont match it they will get 2 first round picks, so i say screw that and go after someone else. not worth 2 first round picks.

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i want abrahams but not at that price,to me out of the question now

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the jets could swap him for P.Ramsey straight up. if this is the case would you consider it?

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[QUOTE=ultimateskinsfan]the jets could swap him for P.Ramsey straight up. if this is the case would you consider it?[/QUOTE]

no because there is absolutely no way we could afford the contract JA wants. He's in it for the money.

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[QUOTE=Hail2em]well now he has been frabchised so if someone makes him and offer and the jets dont match it they will get 2 first round picks, so i say screw that and go after someone else. not worth 2 first round picks.[/QUOTE]


i promise you that nobody is going to sign abraham until they have worked out a trade with the jets. he is clearly not worth 2 number 1 picks... and the jets do not want to pay him 8 mil for 1 year

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[QUOTE=ultimateskinsfan]the jets could swap him for P.Ramsey straight up. if this is the case would you consider it?[/QUOTE]

as long as the skins feel they can work out a long term deal for him.. he won't play unless a long term deal is in the offing

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[QUOTE=shallyshal]as long as the skins feel they can work out a long term deal for him.. he won't play unless a long term deal is in the offing[/QUOTE]

too much money, we got 120mill in 2006 salary and 110mil in 2007 already committed, where can you fit him in without dropping half the roster? If the cba isn't renewed there' absolutely no way. If it is I'd still vote no due to his expense and character concerns (he wants a LOT of money, and we see how that can end up biting you).

btw, everyone should be hoping for a new cba, otherwise we won't be able to sign anyone and will have to release people due to some poorly structured contracts (lavar, brunell, wynn). New cba means all bonuses can be stretched over a much longer period of time, we can cut people and spread the hit over two years again, we can renegotiate contracts etc.

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let him go to dallas

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he is not coming here because of the money.if all it took was to offer ramsey straight up,this probably would have happened last season

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Don't know about that. Ramsey's stock wasn't the same last year; different year, different possibilities.

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I think Abraham is to expensive for the skins even with a new collective bargaining agreement. He is looking for a monster deal.

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[QUOTE=celts32]I think Abraham is to expensive for the skins even with a new collective bargaining agreement. He is looking for a monster deal.[/QUOTE]

I agree, even with a new CBA the Skins have alot of work to do to get under the cap.