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Daseal 03-01-2006 12:36 PM

Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
Speeding to class (late) I heard an interview on Sirius NFL radio with Leonard Pope, sounded like a good guy, he's a TE who loves to block but ran a 4.6 40 (not bad for someone who's 6'7 [May have misheard this]) and they asked him did any teams give him a wink and a nod saying that they really like you and we're taking you if available.

First team he mentioned was The Washington Redskins really talked to him a lot, and the Chicago Bears did too. He sounded excited about Washington since apparently we have quite a few Georgia guys on our squad (I didn't know that.)

Does anyone know anything about this guy? What does he do in games? Etc. Just curious!

That Guy 03-01-2006 12:55 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
he is 6'7" and he's a complete tight end. he's probably top 2 in TE blocking this draft, he should be around at our pick in the 2nd. It might be better strategy to get a OG/OT and take klop in the 3rd though, since most of the best OG prospects will be gone before our second pick. He's missing elite TE speed, but only 4-5 guys in the nfl have that.

but i've been up on him for a while.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 01:10 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]he is 6'7" and he's a complete tight end. he's probably top 2 in TE blocking this draft, he should be around at our pick in the 2nd. It might be better strategy to get a OG/OT and take klop in the 3rd though, since most of the best OG prospects will be gone before our second pick. He's missing elite TE speed, but only 4-5 guys in the nfl have that.

but i've been up on him for a while.[/QUOTE]

If he did run a 4.6-40, that's pretty close to elite. Davis, Winslow, and Shockey are the only good TEs that I know of that ran sub-4.6 times.

hurrykaine 03-01-2006 01:15 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=Daseal] He sounded excited about Washington since apparently we have quite a few Georgia guys on our squad (I didn't know that.) [QUOTE]

Chris + Nic Clemons and Philip Daniels went to UGA.

12thMan 03-01-2006 01:30 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]He sounded excited about Washington since apparently we have quite a few Georgia guys on our squad (I didn't know that.)[/QUOTE]

Both of the Clemons brothers played for Georgia.
Phillip Daniels and Demitric Evans. 4 Players, more than the "U".

That Guy 03-01-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]If he did run a 4.6-40, that's pretty close to elite. Davis, Winslow, and Shockey are the only good TEs that I know of that ran sub-4.6 times.[/QUOTE]

what about gonzo or gates or ben watson? those guys are pretty fast too. Teyo johnson may have been faster too (he's been worthless as far as nfl production though).

like i said though ;) he's a complete TE, but his speed is above average more than elite ;)

Carnage 03-01-2006 01:32 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]he is 6'7" and he's a complete tight end. he's probably top 2 in TE blocking this draft, he should be around at our pick in the 2nd. It might be better strategy to get a OG/OT and take klop in the 3rd though, since most of the best OG prospects will be gone before our second pick. He's missing elite TE speed, but only 4-5 guys in the nfl have that.

but i've been up on him for a while.[/QUOTE]

I've definatly seen some boards that have his as a late 1st rounder. It would be a steal if we could get him at 2.

That Guy 03-01-2006 01:32 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=12thMan]Both of the Clemons brothers played for Georgia.
Phillip Daniels and Demitric Evans. 4 Players, more than the "U".[/QUOTE]

there's also a lot of guys that grew up in georgia... i wonder if he also ment that (i think carlos rogers came from there, among others).

That Guy 03-01-2006 01:34 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=Carnage]I've definatly seen some boards that have his as a late 1st rounder. It would be a steal if we could get him at 2.[/QUOTE]

it really depends on whether the board rates fasano above pope and team needs. that 6'7" and a 4.6 do make him stick out though :(

it sucks cause i had a great board going based on who was underrated and everyone's been climbing to where they should have started :/

dmek25 03-01-2006 01:47 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
let me say this again,we dont need a te(at least not drafting one with our one and only high pick)

Twilbert07 03-01-2006 01:52 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
Living in Atlanta and being married to a Bulldog (did I just call my wife a dog?), I watched every Georgia game last season and can attest that Leonard Pope will be a hell of a tight end. He has all the attributed needed for the position, and he's a player. If we lose Robert Royal due to cap concerns or free agency (and that's not necessarily a bad thing), I'd love to see Pope wearing burgundy and gold in 2006.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=dmek25]let me say this again,we dont need a te(at least not drafting one with our one and only high pick)[/QUOTE]

I disagree. Tight ends are valuable in Gibbs'/Saunders' system. Another good TE to complement Cooley could really add to our passing attack and running game. Plus, I don't see us getting an impact wideout in the second round.

#56fanatic 03-01-2006 02:08 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]he is 6'7" and he's a complete tight end. he's probably top 2 in TE blocking this draft, he should be around at our pick in the 2nd. It might be better strategy to get a OG/OT and take klop in the 3rd though, since most of the best OG prospects will be gone before our second pick. He's missing elite TE speed, but only 4-5 guys in the nfl have that.

but i've been up on him for a while.[/QUOTE]

I doubt he is going to be around that late in the second round.

Daseal 03-01-2006 02:19 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
This thread wasn't created as a "Let's draft him" type deal, but he said the Redskins were really pursuing him so I wanted to get more information on the kid. In his interview he sounded like the Joe Gibbs type. Hard worker, down to Earth, said he was throwing a party in his home town, inviting everyone for draft day, etc.

So I _could_ see us going after this guy, but I just wanted some backup information.

In my opinion -- we take the best player we can get our hands on at that spot. We have very few positions on this team (especially right now) that we're "set" at.

PSUskinsfan11 03-01-2006 02:19 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
If he falls to us in the second he would have to take him. It would be a matter of best player available. Unless he really stuggles at the UGA pro day he will be long gone so I don't think we will have to worry about it. I actually read that he ran a 4.53 which is even more impressive.

dirthogs311 03-01-2006 03:21 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
If he's as good as they say then let's take him if he falls in our lap. Maybe the 2nd wide receiver position isnt really a big deal after all. Remember Saunder's can be very creative with tight ends.

That Guy 03-01-2006 03:24 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
he's a solid pick, but squarely behind davis, and behind lewis on most boards and fasano on a lot of others. I'd say he's the #2 TE in the draft, an only because the #1 is absolutely insane.

Dirtbag59 03-01-2006 05:07 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
This TE class is unbelievabley deep. We could put all the TE prospects Names in a hat and easily pick an above average prospect. Popes a good prospect and I would welcome him to the Redskins. However lets not forget, hes no Vernon Davis then again, not many are to begin with.

GTripp0012 03-19-2006 05:44 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
I think the team may be seriously looking at Pope. Here's why:

1) They really didn't make much of an attempt to keep Royal around. This tells me that they had an improvement in mind, and I don't think that was Fauria.

2) Jason Dunn, who played for Al Saunders in KC is the perfect blocking TE for a Joe Gibbs offense. He could be aquired relatively cheap (6th rounder should do it). To date, I haven't heard as much as a rumor linking the teams. I don't think this is because the Skins lack interest in him, but I don't think they will even consider trading for him until after the draft, because of interest in a guy like Fasano or Pope.

3) Fauria's contract is less than 20% signing boni, meaning he could be cut with a very small cap hit on the eve of the season.

That Guy 03-19-2006 05:58 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012]I think the team may be seriously looking at Pope. Here's why:

1) They really didn't make much of an attempt to keep Royal around. This tells me that they had an improvement in mind, and I don't think that was Fauria.

2) Jason Dunn, who played for Al Saunders in KC is the perfect blocking TE for a Joe Gibbs offense. He could be aquired relatively cheap (6th rounder should do it). To date, I haven't heard as much as a rumor linking the teams. I don't think this is because the Skins lack interest in him, but I don't think they will even consider trading for him until after the draft, because of interest in a guy like Fasano or Pope.

3) Fauria's contract is less than 20% signing boni, meaning he could be cut with a very small cap hit on the eve of the season.[/QUOTE]

here's the thing, we have 2 TEs, pope probably won't be there when we pick, and we have MUCH more urgent needs than TE at this point (with only one first day pick). They didn't feel like paying royal 2$mill a year cause he kinda sucks, that doesn't mean they're drafting a TE (FA OL are 2-4mill a year, quality FA TEs max at 1.5-2mill unless they're gates or gonzo. moneywise, OL is the best choice, though CB also makes sense).

GTripp0012 03-19-2006 08:00 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]here's the thing, we have 2 TEs, pope probably won't be there when we pick, and we have MUCH more urgent needs than TE at this point (with only one first day pick). They didn't feel like paying royal 2$mill a year cause he kinda sucks, that doesn't mean they're drafting a TE (FA OL are 2-4mill a year, quality FA TEs max at 1.5-2mill unless they're gates or gonzo. moneywise, OL is the best choice, though CB also makes sense).[/QUOTE]

Of course they have much bigger needs, among them DT, OL, OLB or MLB. And I don't think he will fall either. I'm just speculating that if hes there, they might think about taking him.

reidskind 03-19-2006 09:10 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
Since the Skins already have Cooley (no matter how we use him) and spending money on a FA TE, I don't think the Skins need to spend our only !st day pick on a TE.. Now I also live in the ATL, and I'm a Gator. This guy killed us when we played him. Got the best of everyone really, not to mention was a big time target in the Bulldogs' pass offense. Still as we see the slight stagnant period of FA, and the fact that we need players to still fill positions right away, the best available player aspect goes out the window because their will be many players available for our slotted position needs(Not to mention no 1st rounder,so have to stick to plan). Now if Joe wants to go ahead and spend it on Pope, I'll shake my head a bit.. alot.. but hey, read the bottom line down there!!!!

jdlea 03-19-2006 09:20 PM

Re: Leonard Pope - TE out of Georgia
 
Yeah, I have to say that after last year I will not immediately tear down anything Joe Gibbs does, anymore. Last year I went after him for starting Brunell and drafting Rogers. Ya know what? I was wrong. Joe was right. Big surprise, huh? That's why I'm the fan and he's the coach. While I do judge the moves, I give Gibbs/Williams/Saunders the chance to show me that they are right before I lay into them. They've earned the benefit of the doubt.


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