If You Were Patrick Ramsey's Agent...
 

Here's the scenario:

You have replaced Jimmy Sexton as Patrick Ramsey's agent. The Redskins have been forced by circumstances to release your client.

You want to contact teams where he has a good chance of beating out the incumbents on a team that has most of the parts in place for a winning run.

If you can't find one like that, then do the best you can.

What teams do you contact?

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Buffalo, NY Jets, Miami, NO, Cleveland, Oakland

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all of them, that's your job. see who offers the best situation and the best contract.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]all of them, that's your job. see who offers the best situation and the best contract.[/QUOTE]

It's your job as his agent to [i]know [/i]the situations. The contract comes later.

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I'd be pushing Patrick towards Miami. Saban seems to have a good plan in place, they have playmakers at WR and RB, if they just add some talent up front on the OL they'll be good to go.

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I like Miami for Ramsey. I'd also take a strong look at Oakland with Porter, Moss, and LaMont Jordan.

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According to the NJ Star Ledger, Pennington is staying with the Jets and they're expected to sign Kitna to back him up.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'd be pushing Patrick towards Miami. Saban seems to have a good plan in place, they have playmakers at WR and RB, if they just add some talent up front on the OL they'll be good to go.[/QUOTE]

If Patrick thinks he has what it takes, he's not going to duck a fair head-to-head competition with anyone except a solidly entrenched QB.

I think you have to wait to see where D. Brees lands. If Miami signs him, then you have the San Diego situation to consider. They have a good situation also and Rivers is an untested QB at the NFL level. Brees is question mark also with his labrum surgery on an arm that was barely adequate in strength to begin with.

A one-year deal with either team could work out really well for patrick especially if we go into an uncapped 2007.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]It's your job as his agent to [i]know [/i]the situations. The contract comes later.[/QUOTE]

how will you truly know without asking around :P?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]According to the NJ Star Ledger, Pennington is staying with the Jets and they're expected to sign Kitna to back him up.[/QUOTE]

Whoever starts for the Jets will not be supported anyway. As Patrick's agent, I don't want him there.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]how will you truly know without asking around :P?[/QUOTE]

I think we must be talking about different things. I have a pretty good idea of whether the Jets' current situation would offer Ramsey a chance to succeed. I don't have to ask them.

GMs and coaches will all talk a good game if they want to sign you.

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[QUOTE=SonnySamFrank]Buffalo, NY Jets, Miami, NO, Cleveland, Oakland[/QUOTE]

With the exception of Miami, your list, to me, looks like one where Ramsey might have the best chance of starting but not one where he'd have a good chance of proving himself a bona fide NFL QB.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]I like Miami for Ramsey. I'd also take a strong look at Oakland with Porter, Moss, and LaMont Jordan.[/QUOTE]

Oakland has a few weapons but who is Tom Walsh? Is he going to be better than Norv at getting the offense going?

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[QUOTE=Huddle]Oakland has a few weapons but who is Tom Walsh? Is he going to be better than Norv at getting the offense going?[/QUOTE]

Tom Walsh is resigning as mayor of his city to be the raiders offensive coordinator! How many people can say they're leaving politics for football? It's usually the other way around

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Take him to Arizona 1 year deal. Give Pat 1 year with those receivers, Bidwell has MAD money stached somewhere, then wait 4 uncapped yr.

You know it will only take 3 or 4 plays for Warner to get hurt and Denny has that team closer to playoffs than people think.

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This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Just nice to talk about something else while we WAIT!!!:insane:

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At the moment, Miami looks like the best target for a trade, but if he's released, more options open up for Ramsey, in my opinion.

Despite what Mike Martz says about Harrington, a confident Patrick Ramsey should have no fear of competing for the Detroit job. They have the scheme and the receivers but need to upgrade the OL.

Scott Linehan of the Rams is said to prefer strong-armed QBs... not just to stretch the field but to get the ball to receivers in a hurry. Bulger's arm strength is average. Isaac Bruce is on the downside, though.

I don't think Ramsey should fear competition with older QB names who are marginal performers.

Bledsoe at 35 is coming off a poor year at Dallas. They aren't loaded with weapons on the offense, though.

Kurt Warner at 35 was only serviceable at Arizona with all their weapons. They have the cap room to carry two decent QBs.

Culpepper and the Vikes might be parting ways. That isn't a bad team offensively.

In Ramsey's shoes, I wouldn't fear a competition with Chris Simms at Tampa Bay. A one-year deal could set him up with a good situation there.

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a one year deal is worst case for ramsey.right now people already have opinions on his ability,so way signing a one year contract.im with thatguy on contacting every team in the league to try and create best case scenario for ramsey

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go.[/QUOTE]

We don't ALL know anything. According to the poll, nearly 20% think he'll be released...a number which surprised me and inspired this post.

If the thread doesn't interest you, why not just ignore it?

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]This thread is kind of ridiculous. We all know the Skins are looking to just get as much as they can for him. I don't care where Ramsey's agent wants him to go.[/QUOTE]

If there are similar offers, the Skins would probably look at which one Ramsey would be happier with thus more inclined to strike a deal. If a team is going to trade a draft pick, they will want Ramsey to extend his contract. That is Ramsey's leverage.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]a one year deal is worst case for ramsey.right now people already have opinions on his ability,so way signing a one year contract.im with thatguy on contacting every team in the league to try and create best case scenario for ramsey[/QUOTE]

I didn't follow your reasoning. Would you mind elaborating? Why is a one-year deal bad for Ramsey if he can pick his team?

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!]If there are similar offers, the Skins would probably look at which one Ramsey would be happier with thus more inclined to strike a deal. If a team is going to trade a draft pick, they will want Ramsey to extend his contract. That is Ramsey's leverage.[/QUOTE]

If the CBA does not get extended, I doubt there will be any offers at all. People will know we need his cap room and will need to release him.

If the CBA does get extended, then we'd probably hold onto him until draft day and take the trade from the highest bidder. Which team that is makes ZERO difference to me.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]If the CBA does get extended, then we'd probably hold onto him until draft day and take the trade from the highest bidder. Which team that is makes ZERO difference to me.[/QUOTE]

Not to you, of course, but it will make a difference to Ramsey since, in all likelihood, the highest bidder will want him to sign a contract extension.

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[QUOTE=Huddle]Not to you, of course, but it will make a difference to Ramsey since, in all likelihood, the highest bidder will want him to sign a contract extension.[/QUOTE]

That's the problem with trying to trade him on draft day. That is the day he will have the most leverage of all. With all the QBs on the market now, he doesn't have much, but put him in a situation where a deal needs to be made without much time... hey... isn't that where we are with the CBA right this second???

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right now general managers have a pre formed idea about ramseys talent.if their ideas are good about his abilty,more money and bargaining power to ramsey.if they like him,and he signs a one year contract and goes somewhere and really stinks it up,then whats he worth?

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If I were Ramsey's agent ... I'd tell him to take a pay cut so he can remain with the Redskins and Ramseyfan wouldn't have to change his screen name.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]right now general managers have a pre formed idea about ramseys talent.if their ideas are good about his abilty,more money and bargaining power to ramsey.if they like him,and he signs a one year contract and goes somewhere and really stinks it up,then whats he worth?[/QUOTE]

I think the best Ramsey can expect from GMs right now is that they feel he has proven to be a solid Grade B QB who, in the right situation, still might move to the Grade A level.

If he goes into a situation where he ought to succeed but doesn't, his stock goes down whether it's a one-year deal or not.

If he doesn't have confidence in himself, then he'll take the best long-term contract he's offered regardless of the current situation with a team's supporting cast. I doubt that will happen.

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]If I were Ramsey's agent ... I'd tell him to take a pay cut so he can remain with the Redskins and Ramseyfan wouldn't have to change his screen name.[/QUOTE]

TAFKARF!

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]If I were Ramsey's agent ... I'd tell him to take a pay cut so he can remain with the Redskins and Ramseyfan wouldn't have to change his screen name.[/QUOTE]

Apparently you haven't heard this... a persistent rumor has a Ramsey deal already in play with the Dolphins. We get a fourth for him, but you go to Finheaven, a Dolphins message board, in trade for some guy with the screen name "Feeleyfan."

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[QUOTE=Huddle]Apparently you haven't heard this... a persistent rumor has a Ramsey deal already in play with the Dolphins. We get a fourth for him, but you go to Finheaven, a Dolphins message board, in trade for some guy with the screen name "Feeleyfan."[/QUOTE]

You guys are getting robbed. :biggthump

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Getting robbed??? If true a second past 1st round Redskins draft pick moves on for nothing this week!!!